Post your prospect lists here

[diehardtwinsfan]

Seth commented in a thread about all of us having lists.  Here's mine.  Post yours in this so we can flame each other .

 

 

[Thrylos]

Working on mine will get it going after the Rule 5 draft.  Here is my 2015 top 40 list.  More than 10 players from that list either graduated, retired, released or traded, so 2016 will be interesting   

[Seth Stohs]

I like this thread. We need to keep moving it up from time to time to encourage people to post theirs.

[Squirrel]

 

I like this thread. We need to keep moving it up from time to time to encourage people to post theirs.

We could pin it if you want?

[Seth Stohs]

 

We could pin it if you want?

 

No... I just mean it needs to show up on the front page from time to time to encourage people to write prospect rankings.

[TRex]

I don't think the top 10 is going to vary much this year (except order). There seems to be two groups, with (all alphabetically to minimize distractions):

 

Berrios, Buxton and Kepler

 

followed by:

Gordon, Gonsalves, Jay, Meyer, Polanco, Stewart, and Walker

 

 

The only ones I can think of with a chance to sneak in are Vielma (personal favorite) and Thorpe. What are some other personal sleepers for #10?

[nicksaviking]

They are relievers, but I'd guess some folks may give Burdi, Chargois and Peterson higher ratings than the love 'em or hate 'em prospects Stewart and Walker.

[ashbury]

 (all alphabetically to minimize distractions):

...

Gordon, Gonsalves, Jay, Meyer, Polanco, Stewart, and Walker

Are you mad????!?? In what universe is Gordon ranked ahead of Gonsalves????!?? 'N' clearly comes ahead of 'R'!!!!?!!

 

/ i keed, i keed

[TRex]

 

Are you mad????!?? In what universe is Gordon ranked ahead of Gonsalves????!?? 'N' clearly comes ahead of 'R'!!!!?!!

 

/ i keed, i keed

... please don't tell my wife, the librarian/English teacher!

[jsteve96]

 

I don't think the top 10 is going to vary much this year (except order). There seems to be two groups, with (all alphabetically to minimize distractions):

 

Berrios, Buxton and Kepler

 

followed by:

Gordon, Gonsalves, Jay, Meyer, Polanco, Stewart, and Walker

 

 

The only ones I can think of with a chance to sneak in are Vielma (personal favorite) and Thorpe. What are some other personal sleepers for #10?

Thorpe very underrated.. the kid was 18 in A ball throwing 90's and had like a 10/9 K rate.. i believe he's a top 5 prospect at the end of the year, maybe top 3. Vielma is good but not top 10 until the bat comes a little bit more to me anyways

[jsteve96]

1) Byron Buxton AAA
2) Jose Berrios AAA
3) Max Kepler AAA
4) Tyler Jay A+
5) Nick Gordon A+
6)Jorge Polanco AAA
7) Stephen Gonsalves A+
8)Adam Walker AAA
9) Lewis Thorpe A+(after maybe a little rehab start in A)
10)Kohl Stewart AA
11)Alex Meyer AAA
12) Nick Burdi AA
13) Chargois AA
14)Felix Jorge A+
15)Taylor Rogers AAA
16) Travis Blankehorn A
17) Jermaine Palacios A
18) Mitch Garver AA
19)LaMonte Wade A
20)Wander Javier DSL
21) Fernando Romero A
22) Stuart Turner AAA
23)Travis Harrison AA
24)Engelb Vielma AA
25) Amaurys Minier A
26)Aaron Sledgers AA
27) Levi Michael AAA
28)Tanner English A+
29) Mason Melotakis A+
30) Jake Reed AA
31) Sam Gibbons A+
32) Ryan Eades AA
33)Zack Jones AA
34) Brandon Peterson AAA
35) Lachlan Wells E-Town
36) Jean Carlos Arias GCL
37) Lewin Diaz E-Town
38) Navarreto A
39) Niko Goodrum AA

40) Randy Rosario A

[Platoon]

... please don't tell my wife, the librarian/English teacher!

If you think she would be upset over your lack of knowledge regarding alphabetical order, that would pale in comparison to the venom she would spew over your posting on TD!

[roger]

Thanks, for what had to be a lot of work with a reasonable view of these players.  It was a great read.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I like these lists but it doesn't feel right to have a guy lead a prospect list for three years running. I'd bump anyone below AA out of the top 6-8 just out of principle, unless they are a Buxton/Sano type.

[ashbury]

I like these lists but it doesn't feel right to have a guy lead a prospect list for three years running. I'd bump anyone below AA out of the top 6-8 just out of principle, unless they are a Buxton/Sano type.

I don't see why. Every list is constructed differently, but if in the back of an analyst's mind is hypothetical trade value, that value (for a very young and raw prospect) may remain top-10 for years, without necessarily ever being top-1 or top-2.

[nicksaviking]

 

I don't see why. Every list is constructed differently, but if in the back of an analyst's mind is hypothetical trade value, that value (for a very young and raw prospect) may remain top-10 for years, without necessarily ever being top-1 or top-2.

 

I'd also add that aside from the top three, the other top guys at AA or higher are looking pretty questionable at this point.

 

 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I don't see why. Every list is constructed differently, but if in the back of an analyst's mind is hypothetical trade value, that value (for a very young and raw prospect) may remain top-10 for years, without necessarily ever being top-1 or top-2.

I didn't think of that. Really good point.

 

However, as an typical anonymous poster on the Internet, and because of the valid point you made, I have chosen to dig into my original position even deeper. only to say that I am more turned on by the guys who "don't have time for no lists," like Correa, Bryant, Syndergaard, even Alex Gordon back in the day. I love the work people put into covering the Twins and honestly I fawn over them as much as anyone, I just wish our lists turned over more often, whether promotions or trades (however not injuries, as set back the Twins slightly).

[nytwinsfan]

 

1) Byron Buxton AAA
2) Jose Berrios AAA
3) Max Kepler AAA
4) Tyler Jay A+
5) Nick Gordon A+
6)Jorge Polanco AAA
7) Stephen Gonsalves A+
8)Adam Walker AAA
9) Lewis Thorpe A+(after maybe a little rehab start in A)
10)Kohl Stewart AA
11)Alex Meyer AAA
12) Nick Burdi AA
13) Chargois AA
14)Felix Jorge A+
15)Taylor Rogers AAA
16) Travis Blankehorn A
17) Jermaine Palacios A
18) Mitch Garver AA
19)LaMonte Wade A
20)Wander Javier DSL
21) Fernando Romero A
22) Stuart Turner AAA
23)Travis Harrison AA
24)Engelb Vielma AA
25) Amaurys Minier A
26)Aaron Sledgers AA
27) Levi Michael AAA
28)Tanner English A+
29) Mason Melotakis A+
30) Jake Reed AA
31) Sam Gibbons A+
32) Ryan Eades AA
33)Zack Jones AA
34) Brandon Peterson AAA
35) Lachlan Wells E-Town
36) Jean Carlos Arias GCL
37) Lewin Diaz E-Town
38) Navarreto A
39) Niko Goodrum AA

40) Randy Rosario A

This is a very solid list. Having a hard time seeing anything here I don't agree with. At most I might have very slight variations (maybe Palacios ahead of Blankenhorn). Might have Cabbage near the end. Overall amazingly good list.

[glunn]

These are some excellent lists.  Nice work and a good discussion.

 

Kudos to Diehard for starting this thread.

 

I hope to see more lists.

[jsteve96]

 

I like these lists but it doesn't feel right to have a guy lead a prospect list for three years running. I'd bump anyone below AA out of the top 6-8 just out of principle, unless they are a Buxton/Sano type.

ha man its about potential.. Gordon and Jay do have a lot of hype, both top 10 picks within last 2 years and Gordon is 19 years young can't drop him because an average offensive year according to wRC+

[TRex]

 

I don't think the top 10 is going to vary much this year (except order). There seems to be two groups, with (all alphabetically to minimize distractions):

 

Berrios, Buxton and Kepler

 

followed by:

Gordon, Gonsalves, Jay, Meyer, Polanco, Stewart, and Walker

 

 

The only ones I can think of with a chance to sneak in are Vielma (personal favorite) and Thorpe. What are some other personal sleepers for #10?

With Meyer being out of the top-10, it looks like Seth is going to blow my prediction right off the bat!

[HitInAPinch]

I really enjoy reading all the prospect lists, especially the reasons why players are selected where they're at.  However, I have a small beef...

 

Many of these lists will [ do ] have Buxton #1.  Why?  Are you going strictly by potential?  I ask, because his at bat performance with the Twins was pretty horrible.  Just like Hicks' was when called up.  Are you taking into consideration that the performance at the next level counts less towards a players potential?

 

Just curious.....

[Seth Stohs]

 

I really enjoy reading all the prospect lists, especially the reasons why players are selected where they're at.  However, I have a small beef...

 

Many of these lists will [ do ] have Buxton #1.  Why?  Are you going strictly by potential?  I ask, because his at bat performance with the Twins was pretty horrible.  Just like Hicks' was when called up.  Are you taking into consideration that the performance at the next level counts less towards a players potential?

 

Just curious.....

 

Yeah, no secret here... Buxton was the easy choice for #1...

 

Yes, I saw the struggles, but it was his first big league time. He wasn't ready (Mientkiewicz said as much when he was called up, and Ryan acknowledged that he was called up out of need rather than readiness). 

 

Buxton's all about the tools. His speed, defense and arm strength are all elite. He could hit .250 for his career and be a solid major leaguer. But what's exciting is that he can be much more than that. He can be a good leadoff type of hitter. He'll hit a lot of singles and we saw his ability to turn singles into doubles and doubles into triples... At the end, we saw that he has the ability to hit for a little power too. His first homer went to left, but his second homer went just to the right of centerfield. The guy is an elite talent... What she showed in 129 at bats means pretty much nothing.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I really enjoy reading all the prospect lists, especially the reasons why players are selected where they're at.  However, I have a small beef...

 

Many of these lists will [ do ] have Buxton #1.  Why?  Are you going strictly by potential?  I ask, because his at bat performance with the Twins was pretty horrible.  Just like Hicks' was when called up.  Are you taking into consideration that the performance at the next level counts less towards a players potential?

 

Just curious.....

 

It depends on the list maker. Some value results more than others (not that Buxton was bad in AA, but he was clearly not ML ready).  I put him at 2 on mine this year.  He was 1 last year. Main reason for that (for me at least) was that he plays CF, which is a bit harder commodity to find impact talent than 3B.  This year, Sano flat out out-performed him at the same levels.

[HitInAPinch]

 

It depends on the list maker. Some value results more than others (not that Buxton was bad in AA, but he was clearly not ML ready).  I put him at 2 on mine this year.  He was 1 last year. Main reason for that (for me at least) was that he plays CF, which is a bit harder commodity to find impact talent than 3B.  This year, Sano flat out out-performed him at the same levels.

Miguel Sano is a one of a kind player.  Really, the only remaining question is: what position?

[HitInAPinch]

 

Yeah, no secret here... Buxton was the easy choice for #1...

 

Yes, I saw the struggles, but it was his first big league time. He wasn't ready (Mientkiewicz said as much when he was called up, and Ryan acknowledged that he was called up out of need rather than readiness). 

 

Buxton's all about the tools. His speed, defense and arm strength are all elite. He could hit .250 for his career and be a solid major leaguer. But what's exciting is that he can be much more than that. He can be a good leadoff type of hitter. He'll hit a lot of singles and we saw his ability to turn singles into doubles and doubles into triples... At the end, we saw that he has the ability to hit for a little power too. His first homer went to left, but his second homer went just to the right of centerfield. The guy is an elite talent... What she showed in 129 at bats means pretty much nothing.

Didn't mean to get you to coughup the top guy on your list ahead of time 

 

I like Buxton.  But the coaches and manager got a lot of work to do on his pitch recognition and his mechanics. This next year at AAA, people need blinders when it comes to BA and watch the BB's and the OBP. Just like Sano, that will be the sign he's ready.

[mlhouse]

Nice list.  IT is fun to see the ranking discussion.  Just for fun, here is my list and their "rating".  The rating is my own qualitative measure but anyone over 85 is a legitimate MLB prospect, below that number they are still prospects with certain issues that need to be resolved with time/experience.  It is used just to show the drop in the prospect rankings that a "1-50" list doesn't show.  And I do not consider Byron Buxton a prospect anymore.

 

1.  JO Berrios  97

2.  Max Kepler  95

3.  Jorge Polanco  91

4.  Kohl Stewart  90

5.  Nick Gordon  89

6.  Stephen Gonslaves  89

7.  Tyler Jay  87

8.  Nick Burdi  84

9.  Louis Thorpe  83

10.  JT Chargois  81

11.  Adam Walker  80

12.  Alex Meyer  80

13.  Jake Reed  78

14.  Stuart Turner  76

15.  Luke Bard  76

16.  Ryan Eades  74

17.  Travis Blankenship  73

18.  Felix Jorge  73

19.  WAnder Javier  70

20.  Pat Dean  70

[jsteve96]

 

Nice list.  IT is fun to see the ranking discussion.  Just for fun, here is my list and their "rating".  The rating is my own qualitative measure but anyone over 85 is a legitimate MLB prospect, below that number they are still prospects with certain issues that need to be resolved with time/experience.  It is used just to show the drop in the prospect rankings that a "1-50" list doesn't show.  And I do not consider Byron Buxton a prospect anymore.

 

1.  JO Berrios  97

2.  Max Kepler  95

3.  Jorge Polanco  91

4.  Kohl Stewart  90

5.  Nick Gordon  89

6.  Stephen Gonslaves  89

7.  Tyler Jay  87

8.  Nick Burdi  84

9.  Louis Thorpe  83

10.  JT Chargois  81

11.  Adam Walker  80

12.  Alex Meyer  80

13.  Jake Reed  78

14.  Stuart Turner  76

15.  Luke Bard  76

16.  Ryan Eades  74

17.  Travis Blankenship  73

18.  Felix Jorge  73

19.  WAnder Javier  70

20.  Pat Dean  70

your list involves Jake Reed, Ryan Eades and Luke bard in its top 20. and Kohl Stewart number 4.... don't really understand this... 

[mlhouse]

 

your list involves Jake Reed, Ryan Eades and Luke bard in its top 20. and Kohl Stewart number 4.... don't really understand this... 

Versus????

[diehardtwinsfan]

MLHouse, how do you come up with that rating?  Just your opinion, or do you have a formula of sorts?  Just curious.