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Congratulations to Walker Jenkins, who, because Keaschall has exceeded rookie limits, is now the only real Twins hitting prospect. The prospect list: 1: Jenkins 2 thru P+1: Every pitcher in the Twins system (there are P of them, and I've decided to include Raya -- hey, I'd be pitching prospect for the Twins if I could throw hard and let them teach me a pitch that would work at the MLB level for a while before it crippled me, I'm already as good as Noah Davis. This group and its placement here is a compliment to Twins pitching development. P+2 thru P+4: K. Culpepper, G. Gonzalez, Tait (these are guys who have a legit chance of contributing in MLB, Tait maybe being the only one with a chance to be above average, though the probability is low) P+5 thru P+4+W: the weirdos, including Eeles, EmRod, other indy players and int'l signings we know nothing about. EmRod is included here because of tools and because they are diminishing rapidly. Also includes a couple of catchers. P+W+5 thru N: everybody else, notably including first rounders Sabato, DeBarge, and Houston. Twins continue to use early draft picks on guys who don't have a chance. There are N players in the system eligible for prospect lists.
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Keaschall should be good. He just needs health, reps, and maybe an offseason of working really hard at it. He seems the type that would, though I have my doubts the staff is going to prioritize it. Under Kelly (and even Gardenhire) the team didn't accept poor fielding. While I disagreed with a good amount of the mythology surrounding it, the "Twins Way" was a real thing. Fielding, baserunning, and all fundamentals were requirements.
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Anybody can be a major leaguer if you don't have standards. These are three very different guys. One is guaranteed to be a good player, probably a star of some sort. One is guaranteed to disappoint if you're naive enough to think he's going to be good. One is probably a below average player but does have some variation around that, hitting-wise.
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??? Amick makes it with nobody. He's 22 with a 26.1% K rate at A+. This won't go anywhere, and no other team will improve the issue. One thing I've found is that players are who they are. I hated the pick, and he hasn't disappointed. As for any pitcher, I'd bet on the Twins over an average team.
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I think if we randomly chose a player out of the couple thousand available to be drafted and forced the Twins to draft him in the first round, we'd lose our heads and consider him a good prospect. Because, after all, he's a first-rounder.
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There's only Jenkins, and he's independent of most of the mess going forward. There are some pitchers who are clearly not ready. There are a bunch of hitters who will not be anything ever, and a couple where the jury is still out. Basically, there is only Jenkins, who's coming up no matter what happens next year (barring injury). Nothing to clamor for
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It is not difficult to put up big numbers in St. Paul, as should be obvious with 1, 2, ad 3 all being Saints. But lets see if we can rule them out from contributing to the Twins: 3. Jhonny Pereda -- age 29 season, too old, esp at catcher 2. Kyler Fedko -- all his stats are average to mediocre while being too old for his levels, K rate too high for his profile, level, age vs level. 1. Kala'i Rosario -- 28% K rate, can basically rule him out. One speck of hope would be his his numbers and K rate are much better vs lhp. But I think his defense precludes that being enough to play him. He appears to be Yunior Severino. Without this info, a person could get the idea that Twins "prospects" suddenly suck when they reach MLB.
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In terms of who had the best results, the best line is Francisco's. This is because he did best with the things he could control. Hits are often the result of luck. Given that he struck out the most hitters (K/9), didn't give up a run, and walked only two, there's your reliever of the month. Which is meaningless for so many different reasons. Francisco is 24 at low A. The two guys you placed ahead of him are 25. Relievers don't make the majors, except in the rarest of circumstances. Relief outings, random or correlated, will allow a nothing pitcher to have a good month by chance. More than one nothing pitcher will have good numbers for a month. There are fifty relievers in the system, probably, and none of them are good enough to make the majors, yet by chance or because they're too experienced for the league, a few will put up decent numbers. Still, I sort of like this feature.
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Nick, serious (non-biting) question. How do you write an article like this ignoring that Boras is his agent? Falvey jumped in bed with Boras from the beginning, though I'll admit taking anyone but Jenkins would have been stupid. However, he didn't have to take Lewis or sign Correa. Lewis was ranked around 5th consensus-wise, and the Twins took him 1st. That is, they didn't have to take him -- very arguably at the time shouldn't have. Maybe not so much recently, but people and the writers here constantly mentioned Lewis as an extension candidate when there's zero chance. Zero chance because Boras. Boras has an understanding with each of his star players/prospects that he will do whatever he has to to get the player the best contract possible, and the player agrees with this when he signs on, or, frankly, he wouldn't sign on with Boras. Could a Boras client sign an extension to give up his first years of free agency? Sure, but that player is going to be a Yankee, Met, or Dodger, as those extension years are going to be at outlandish prices the Twins or most any team could never afford. More dollars than a projected free agent contract would get him those years, probably. Boras doesn't deal with expected values, he deals only in ceilings. Jenkins needs more minor league seasoning. His power isn't yet developed, he hasn't succeeded at AAA. If the Twins want him for seven years, they will have to wait to call him up. Next year, winning-wise, is lost anyway. Why would you want Jenkins under team control for only five years after a lost season?
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I didn't view Crews as "can't-miss." I viewed him as overrated with a good chance to be mediocre. My ranking of the five was: 1. Langford 2. Skenes 3. Clark 4. Jenkins 5. Wilson Crews I sometimes put 5 when the discussion was simply about the five. Otherwise Crews was somewhere in the second five. Gonzalez I absolutely hated, and there were guesses he was going to be a Twin before the lottery. He won't even make the majors for more than a cup. I did like Schanuel but was warned he probably the next Casey Kotchman.
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I see no competence toward getting proper value back. I don't think the Twins have the ability to trade them and recover. They might, but I think the probability is small. If they're going to do it, now's the time. The Twins won't win next year because no one in power understands hitting. No point in having Lopez and Ryan around, really. Then after next season, their value is diminished greatly, plus they risk injury next year.
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It's really hard: 1. Twins develop their pitchers. They seem to do this well. 2. Twins overhaul from ground zero their hitting development and find someone qualified to oversee this. Haven't addressed. 3. Twins overhaul their drafting, specifically wrt hitting. Haven't addressed. 4. Twins overhaul their Latin scouting. I believe this has been done, to what success I don't know. 5. I am not a fan of Royce Lewis, but I think the managerial things that make a difference are not being addressed. Namely fielding and the attitude toward its importance. Address them. 6. They need help with the analytics. As a statistician/data scientist, I see when they so obviously implement strategies based on "analytics." I also see the fallacies they've fallen prey to. They need someone who understands the theory of probability and statistics to oversee data decisions. Address it.
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Twins have very few hitting prospects if you look at the stats the right way. So minor league success almost always won't translate. Sorry. The other day I list two actual hitting prospects (Jenkins, Keaschall), and a very few others with a chance (Culpepper, Gonzalez, Tait). So expect two and don't be surprised with three. It's a sad situation. Shouldn't be closing your eyes and crossing your fingers; the numbers (K rate) tell the story. High Avg/OBP/Slg is very misleading. Also listed EmRod as someone with a very low chance.
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There's a difference between criminally greedy and inept.
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No relief, almost no hitting, and the possibility of trading Ryan and Lopez. Sure.
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Easy, unless Montreal is one of the expansion teams. And they appear to be a favorite. I guess they'd put Montreal in the NL East, Pit in NL North, and Cin in NL South. However, if it's Montreal and Nashville both, I guess you put Col in the AL West and Nashville in the AL South. At least Colorado is used to that, somewhat. Geography divisions, with Montreal and Nashville, no AL or NL (this is just for fun, not a suggestion) NE: Mtl, NYY, NYM, Bos MA: Bal, Phi, Was, Pit (or Cin) SE: Atl, TB, Mia, Nas GL: Tor, Detroit, Cle, Cin (or Pit) NC: Min, Mil, ChC, ChW SC: Hou, Tex, StL, KC SW: Ari, SD, LV, Col W: LAD, LAA, SF, Sea It works out pretty damn well, if you ask me. If Portland or SLC is with Montreal W: Sea, Por/SLC, SF, LV SW: LAD, LAA, Ari, SD SC: KC, Col, Hou, Tex GL: Min, Det, Tor, Cle MW: StL, ChC, ChW, Mil SE: Atl, TB, Mia, Cin MA: Was, Bal, Phi, Pit NE: Mtl, NYY, NYM, Bos And if it's Nashville with SLC or Por, Nashvile goes into the SE and Was into NE. If you want MIN in a division with Mil and the Chicago teams, cheer for Mtl and Nas in this Geography-derived set of division.
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No, a naive or ignorant case can be made for Rodriguez. Extreme walk rate is a negative, not a positive. Slugging pct means very little if the K rate is high. It means a guy has power if he can get to it, but the minors K rate will tell you whether he can get to it. Using avg/obp/slg as a guide to projecting MLB success will lead to disappointment. It only matters in the correct context. The Twins have only two prospects who will be quality major leaguers for certain, and those are Jenkins and Keaschall. Culpepper and Tait are maybe's, EmRod is very much a likely no. With seemingly no ability to deveolop hitting, the Twins are kind of screwed unless they can pump out pitching to trade a bit more quickly. But I haven't seen that they understand what hitters to trade for.
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