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I think Keirsey will be more useful than Bride has been in that last spot on the bench. It will become interesting when Lewis returns and everyone stays healthy. Should they move Bride back in that spot or should opt for speed and defense on the bench?

I recall Bob Hamelin finally getting to the majors after several seasons and many at bats in four AAA seasons. He was Rookie of the Year for the Royals as a DH/1B in 1994. That was the highlight of his career. Maybe the Twins can get a helpful season or two from Sabato.

The Twins do struggle against lefties. That is true for most teams. Hitters across baseball this year have had more trouble against left handed pitching than right handed pitching. The difference in OPS is 38 points. In OPS+ terms it is 103 vs right handed pitching and 93 vs left handed pitching. Only 6 teams have an OPS+ over 100 against lefties. The Twins rank 17th against left handed pitching. The Twins need a lefty starter. It will be a wait for Hill and Prielipp. MacLeod is in AAA but hasn’t pitched much returning from injury. If Ober is injured I wonder if Joey Wentz gets a look. None of that is promising for 2025 but there is some hope for a left handed starter in Prielipp and Hill.

Thanks @Cody Christie I am very intrigued. I wrote about this Monday but it didn’t get much notice. Reposting here. On this week’s episode of Inside Twins Drew MacPhail spoke about a pitching plan in the minors that looks to a scheduled four day rotation. They chose pitchers that were not in a starting rotation spot and are giving them a scheduled 4 day cadence in a quasi-starter role pitching 3-4 innings. Travis Adams game log in AAA fits this cadence. The claim is that they are getting more innings than some of their starters and they have seen the strikeout numbers tick up. I went searching for these pitchers on this 4 day cadence other than Adams. Looking at the game logs the group in Wichita was the easiest to identify. Wichita has probably had less interruption in their schedule due to rain helping to keep the cadence at four days. The four quasi starters at Wichita have been John Klein, Mike Paredes, Justin Whorff and Pierson Ohl. There is evidence of others on the same schedule but Wichita had the most clear group. The first claim was that they were matching or surpassing innings of the starters. Not quite. Klein and Paredes have near the same amount of innings as Baker and Rozek who are a 6 day starter schedule. The second claim is that the numbers are improved. Klein has improved in all areas. Strikeout rate is up from 20% to 28%. Walks have dropped 1%. His ERA, xFIP and FIP are clearly better. Last year he threw 100 innings in a starter role. He is on pace to match or better that with his 44 this year. Paredes has gone the opposite direction with his strike out and walk rates. His ERA is better though at 2.49. He is on pace to significantly increase his innings pitched. He is already at 43. Last year he threw 65 innings in a relief role. Whorff was moved to AAA but spent most of this year in AA. In AA his strike out rate went from 24 to 30 and walk rates dropped from 9 to 5.5. His ERA, xFIP and FIP are all improved. He has 34.2 innings this year. Last year he had 71. Ohl started the season late due to injury and joined Wichita on April 25. His strike out rate has gone from 24 to 30 while his walk rate remains below 4%. ERA, xFIP and FIP are much improved over 2024. His innings (32.2) may not match last year’s (102) due to the later start. MacPhail said that the hope is that pitchers will see improved success and be able to build back really well with this 4 day quasi-starter cadence. He ended with that maybe it something we will see in the major leagues with the Minnesota Twins. So far the cadence for the starters in the minors has not changed. They pitch about every 6 days. I think we would see some changes with that starter cadence before we see it in the major leagues. What might that look like? Do they use 8 pitchers in a 4 day cadence planning to get into the 7th or 8th before handing it off to the 5 man bullpen? Is it one group of 4 starters on that cadence with a 9 man pen? Can they afford to have the typical 5 man starting staff and 4 pitchers in the pen scheduled every 4th day leaving 4 unscheduled pitchers in the pen? All teams need to be seeking ways to keep their pitchers healthy while improving their performance. I am glad the Twins are looking for ways to accomplish those goals with their minor league staffs.

There are two opposite pulls for me. I do not think platooning helped last year. I really opposed that short side platoon that created the all right handed line up against left handed pitching. I wanted those left handed batters to play nearly every day and see left handed pitching. I also want all of the players on tthe bench to be ready when needed. I want them growing in their skills. That is in conflict with wanting players like Wallner and Larnach in the line up nearly every day. I don’t even want that bench player to hit for Larnach or Wallner if a lefty reliever enters in mid game. I wonder if the last spot on the bench and the last spot in the bullpen are best utilized by shuttling from AAA. Rules make that difficult though. Players can only be optioned a limited numbers of times during the season and there is wait time before they can return to the majors once optioned.

I can remember them as Twins but Woodson pitched in the early 70s a decade before Smithson joined the team. Woodson had a really good season in 1972 but he was blown out by the Rangers 16-2 in his worst start that year. A serious arm injury cut short his promising career. in 1985 Mike Smithson was part of back to back games where they gave up double digit runs to the Royals. Frank Viola was the starter in the other game.

I hope Boston can help Jorge maximize his talents. I also hope the Twins can tap some unrealized talent from Joey Wentz. Wentz is two years younger so maybe there is more hope. On the other hand this is his third major league team so maybe that diminishes the chance there is more to get from him. The reality is the success of the Twins pitching staff does not ride on the shoulders of the 8th man in the bullpen. It is on the shoulders of Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Duran and Jax staying healthy and performing to their best and a couple of the other 8 stepping up to join them. Alcala is gone and Wentz is here. Moving the needle will require someone stepping up and moving everyone down a notch or acquiring that player that moves everyone down a notch until Topa is the 8th man or Ober is at the back of the rotation. Replacing one 8th man in the pen with another won’t help much.

This discussion has me thinking about the best way to utilize that 13th position player. The Royals always seem to have a stolen base threat that can also be a defensive sub in the outfield. They have used Tyler Tolbert and Darion Blanco in that role. Prior to the DH many teams had a player like Manny Mota to pinch hit for the pitcher. I am not sure that is needed now. The Tigers have been pretty effective pinch hitting but that is more a function of their depth and not a player in the role of pinch hitter. Is there a need for that 13th player to be a regular part of the line up rotation getting 2-3 starts a week? Probably not. If not then would it be more helpful to a team to find a specialist that wouldn’t start that much? Keirsey was that specialist for the Twins. He was 5/7 in stolen bases which probably is below what you need from a specialist. He had a +1 OAA across the outfield. Would he be more valuable than Bride in that 13th position player role? Would Gasper be more valuable in the last spot as a pinch hitter/third catcher that hits from both sides?

I think they need to add a top of the line up bat. If that bat is an outfielder there is still space for Castro, Larnach, Wallner and Buxton in the line up.

Did you notice his four seem fastball that was 95-96 had dropped to 92-93 in the 5th inning?

Hopefully the Twins are studying the 2024 Tigers and their success in the second half in bullpen games. They had 33 bullpen games last year and more in the playoffs. Injuries and a deadline trade of Flaherty left them without 5 viable starters and they figured it out.

I wonder if it is the opposite. They started the year with 7 pitchers that could compete in the major leagues. Now that they are down to 5 would they be more cautious about losing another one?

I would go for it and part with significant prospects to build a team that can make it through the playoffs. I wouldn’t add a back end starter or a middle reliever or a bat that doesn’t push everyone else a spot down in the line up. If this isn’t the year to go for it then I would stick with what I have and listen to offers for players on expiring contracts. No need to call unless the starting offer is already an overpay.

I agree with the sentiment that it is time to get past the Vazquez contract. He slots between Mitch Garver and Gary Sanchez and I would take Vazquez over either. Garver spends more time at DH than catcher. Sanchez has been no help this year. Danny Jansen is in there also with the same AAV though he can opt out and may do so thinking he can get better than 12 million. It is deceptive to rank any veteran at a position by salary. I shouldn’t be comparing him to a pool of all catchers. Most catchers have not hit free agency and are getting a salary below the market they would get as a free agent. As for Vazquez I would prefer Jansen among his peers but glad to have him over Sanchez and Garver. I don’t know how to measure his value to the pitcher/catcher room but I believe it to be among the best in the game. Glad to have Vazquez. Nice game yesterday but nailing that runner at third earlier this year was even better. The Twins bought themselves three years to develop a cost controlled young catcher with his contract. The Twins have not made any progress developing that catcher. That is the real failure.

Who would you put next on the list? Any sleepers taking a big step this year?

MacPhail did talk about a new pitching cadence plan in the minors. But not of these pitchers are on that new cadence. These four are in the same 6 day starter cadence they have used in the minors for a while. Of the four I think Prielipp is their best pitching prospect. He has shown success above A-Ball. The difference between his strike out rate and walk rate is elite like Hill’s but he is so much closer.

I have the same hope for Miranda and Julien as I had for Wallner last year. Wallner struggled in his return to AAA for 6 weeks before turning things around the next 6 weeks. It is encouraging to see Miranda’s walk rate up and strike out rate down. His last 8 or so games have shown some signs to be encouraged. Really nice game from Julien. They gave Wallner about 300 AAA plate appearances last year to turn things around. I will wait and see how Miranda and Julien loom at 300 PAs before giving up on them. So far they aren’t even half way there yet. Great article from @Nick Nelson about Randy Dobnak story before the hand injury.

On this week’s episode of Inside Twins Drew MacPhail spoke about a pitching plan in the minors that looks to a scheduled four day rotation. They chose pitchers that were not in a starting rotation spot and are giving them a scheduled 4 day cadence in a quasi-starter role pitching 3-4 innings. Travis Adams game log in AAA fits this cadence. The claim is that they are getting more innings than some of their starters and they have seen the strikeout numbers tick up. I went searching for these pitchers on this 4 day cadence other than Adams. Looking at the game logs the group in Wichita was the easiest to identify. Wichita has probably had less interruption in their schedule due to rain helping to keep the cadence at four days. The four quasi starters at Wichita have been John Klein, Mike Paredes, Justin Whorff and Pierson Ohl. There is evidence of others on the same schedule but Wichita had the most clear group. The first claim was that they were matching or surpassing innings of the starters. Not quite. Klein and Paredes have near the same amount of innings as Baker and Rozek who are a 6 day starter schedule. The second claim is that the numbers are improved. Klein has improved in all areas. Strikeout rate is up from 20% to 28%. Walks have dropped 1%. His ERA, xFIP and FIP are clearly better. Last year he threw 100 innings in a starter role. He is on pace to match or better that with his 44 this year. Paredes has gone the opposite direction with his strike out and walk rates. His ERA is better though at 2.49. He is on pace to significantly increase his innings pitched. He is already at 43. Last year he threw 65 innings in a relief role. Whorff was moved to AAA but spent most of this year in AA. In AA his strike out rate went from 24 to 30 and walk rates dropped from 9 to 5.5. His ERA, xFIP and FIP are all improved. He has 34.2 innings this year. Last year he had 71. Ohl started the season late due to injury and joined Wichita on April 25. His strike out rate has gone from 24 to 30 while his walk rate remains below 4%. ERA, xFIP and FIP are much improved over 2024. His innings (32.2) may not match last year’s (102) due to the later start. MacPhail said that the hope is that pitchers will see improved success and be able to build back really well with this 4 day quasi-starter cadence. He ended with that maybe it something we will see in the major leagues with the Minnesota Twins. So far the cadence for the starters in the minors has not changed. They pitch about every 6 days. I think we would see some changes with that starter cadence before we see it in the major leagues. What might that look like? Do they use 8 pitchers in a 4 day cadence planning to get into the 7th or 8th before handing it off to the 5 man bullpen? Is it one group of 4 starters on that cadence with a 9 man pen? Can they afford to have the typical 5 man starting staff and 4 pitchers in the pen scheduled every 4th day leaving 4 unscheduled pitchers in the pen? All teams need to be seeking ways to keep their pitchers healthy while improving their performance. I am glad the Twins are looking for ways to accomplish those goals with their minor league staffs.

Looks like they are going to need an 8th starter. They should probably move rule 5 pick up (minor league phase) Trent Baker to St. Paul. Give him a chance against better competition.

Woods Richardson had two good starts and a third where he allowed three home runs. The Saints also hit 2 home runs that day. Sometimes the ball flies there. Still a bad start but over three starts and 17 innings he struck out 19 and walked 4.

Might not just be pitchers. The A’s have 6 pitchers and 5 position players on the IL though three predate the season. Others have been injured and activated.

The White Sox have used Mike Vasil in that role. He has one appearance following an opener so that is more of a starter than a long reliever but even without it he averages 2 innings an appearance. The A’s use Mitch Spence in that role though they use an opener quite a bit so he has some appearances where he was a bulk reliever. He still averages less than 2 innings a relief appearance. I don’t think the Twins should try to copy two of the worst teams in baseball by assigning that role to a specific pitcher. A third pitcher to consider is Ben Casparius from the Dodgers. He is averaging nearly two innings a relief appearance. Looking at his game log insome of those he was in more of a starter role where he followed an opener because the Dodgers had some injury trouble. In his 20 other appearances 7 (35%) have gone at least two innings. Funderburk has 3 of 9(33%) of 2 innings and that number would likely be greater if he was effective. The traditional long relief role in baseball is no longer. Bullpens are too heavily used and teams can’t have a pitcher throw 3+ innings and be unavailable for several days. Instead a shuttle to AAA or the DFA route is used to fill that last spot. The Twins used Dobnak, McCaughan and Blewett in the role. Funderburk has been in that role and now they need another arm that can take on those innings. It is Travis Adams turn. It is up to Travis Adams to take this opportunity and move up the bullpen ladder. Cole Sands and Griffin Jax made the most of the opportunity. Funderburk and Alcala haven’t taken advantage. The long reliever role in baseball still exists but it is a revolving door. Travis Adams has just entered the door. Success in that role can result in someone else going out.

It might be important to not that Suarez has 13 of his 16 home runs at home. His OPS at home is 1.025 and on the road .580. Last year he hit 18 of his 30 home runs at home. In a three year sample his wRC+ numbers on the road have been 91, 102 and 60 vs. 118, 130 and 174 at home. The last two years were in an Arizona park that suits him well. The team trading for him to expect a below average hitter where all of his contributions will come from home runs which will be less frequent as he won’t be playing in Arizona very often. I would not expect him to be a massive upgrade or someone I want batting in the top 4 of the line up.

Will he stick at catcher? Do you think his development as a catcher is a factor in the decision to keep him in CR for now?

Wallner just came back from a significant injury. Did we expect he was going to play every day upon return? I don’t think he even played back to back days in the field during rehab which is often part of the progression.