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  1. old nurse
    Yes I know the facts. Why are you distorting them. Don’t bother responding as there is a mute feature. Good riddance
  2. old nurse
    2022 revenue was 256 million according to Sportrac Cots listed Twins payroll at 156 million. Twins in the past have said they would spend 50 % of revenue on players. To all but probably you it would look like they invested in the team. It netted a couple hundred thousand more fans and people like you who say a division winning team is a bad team not worth watching Your argument was the Twins should produce revenue like Atlanta. My point was the Twins fan are different than Atlanta, spend different from Atlanta so you cannot expect the same results as Atlanta. If you are expecting the same results as Atlanta you can first look at ticket prices. To match your standard set by you for the Twins in revenue generation the team would have to dramatically raise prices. The point that escapes you was you asked for what was an impossible thing. I did not ask for fans tto spend money first. I have said that they have to be patient and wait for a core to develop,
  3. old nurse
    Revenue went up before they added. Sorry that ou can’t look before you mouth off
  4. old nurse
    You don’t know where they will rank until everyone is done with their rosters Revenue uncertainty will cause the clubs in the middle to be more cautious. The White Sox are shedding payroll. Milwaukee shed payroll Kansas City added payroll when they were a player or two away from contention. The Twins right now do not have what KC had when they added
  5. old nurse
    Ticket prices tend to be a very capitalistic thing. Your question at best is weird considering the Twins are entertainment not a product you use.
  6. old nurse
    King has also been their closer. Even if the do sign pitchers it would probably be ab overpay rather than a bargain to get Cortez
  7. old nurse
    The trade for Gray looks good now. What they won with it makes the trade palatable. There still isn’t the faith in the front office to know what they have in minor league players. Petty with his performance last year could have been 4 years of great down the road.
  8. old nurse
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/193673/average-ticket-price-in-the-mlb-by-team/ Perhaps the Twins should boos ticket prices to march Atlanta. On a 2 million attendance that should more than cover what you think they should be making.
  9. old nurse
    The Twins rank team wise as the 17th largest market as there are multiple teams in the large markets. Payroll amounts they have slotted 16th. OOOPs that would appear as the Twins do as you ask.
  10. old nurse
    Which way did thier revenue go?
  11. old nurse
    Atlanta has had 6 years in a row of playoffs. When it started their payroll was 115 million, which maybe was league average. They drew about 2.5 million fans which was about their usual numbers. They did not go to the higher payroll overnight . It built through that accumulation of talent. The talent came first, then the money and attendance. The first winning team was mostly homegrown talent. Continued winning allowed them to do more. And more. There are no shortcuts to the top. Austin Riley at 21 million is cost controlled compared to a Betts or Correa contract Acuna at 17 million is an even bigger bargain
  12. old nurse
    There are plenty of sources that show revenue of baseball teams. The notion that is being propagated is that that they should be spending more than they take in as they are billionaire owners. Nice retreat on your part from that proposal. Pretty much other people of a loyal fan base say that people only come out if they are winning consistently , Considering that 4 playoff appearances in 7 years is considered less than mediocre the bar is set pretty high. So what incentive is there to add beyond when there isn’t a consistent core? If you want to be rude an insult others, go right ahead. When you have to resort to insults it shows you for who you are
  13. old nurse
    Any trade of a minor league pitcher is one where everyone but the team trading him thinks there is a high ceiling. SWR is a perfect example of that. The trade the Cardinals made for Ozuna is why you do not want to make a mistake. Trades involving Polanco or Kepler would be to a team that is contending looking to fill a hole until the prospect comes up. Trading for either of them means there was not a better stopgap available as a free agent or they are basically a sweetener to get the deal as an overpay for the prospect. So if you think neither Festa nor Raya is going to be a high quality pitcher the team should trade them while they still have value
  14. old nurse
    Then you build as Atlanta has done with a solid core of homegrown players augmented with cost controlled players, discounted free agents.
  15. old nurse
    Which team that lost money has won the World Series?
  16. old nurse
    The combined attendance at Vikings, Wild, and Timberwolves games is less than what is needed for the Twins to reach the standard you set. Comparing what one team does in a different sport is apples and oranges argument
  17. old nurse
    In theory they should make more money. The reality from sales tax receipts is that the fan base. Does not spend money at the park. That has been a consistent pattern of the fan base.
  18. old nurse
    One of the Pohlads was involve with media. They took the easy way out by signing with a network. They may well have to do it themselves.
  19. old nurse
    The Mets are a gamble.for Cohen. If he can make the Mets as relevant as the Yankees there is a lot of money to be made in the New York market. Not so much with the Twins Cohen tried with the big splash. He made one. Unfortunately for him it was a bellyflop. It looks like the people inside convinced him that they nee the prospects first, then the splash. Ed Visteurs wrote a book called no shortcuts to the top. It was about getting to the top of the mountain. Ed was right.
  20. old nurse
    The return on the money spent is always going to be the fan spending on the team.. It is an aggregate of the team, not the individual player
  21. old nurse
    “Investing” did not help the Yankees, Padres, Mets nor Boston. There is no “investment” that pays off consistently. Strings of World Series championships are non existent. The what about consistently making the playoffs can be answered with asking people to remember all the complaints of the streak. The team invested in Mauer and Morneau,, the pages here would seem to indicate it really didn’t get them anywhere. The team invested in Polanco, Kepler, and Buxton. If the team magically got a dollar for every trade Kepler or Polanco comment here the team would not need a television contract. The fans are fickle. In a sport where failing 2/3 of the time while attempting to hit the ball is considered exceptional the fans have no tolerance for being just merely average at what you do. Gallo in this past season, hisOPS +, WRC+ were both as league average, Gallo will forever be vilified as a horrible signing because of bad hitting. So why doesn't the Pohlads “invest” in the team? They are investors. Give them credit for at least understanding investing. They invest when there is a chance for a return. They invested in a number of players over the last few years. Being in first place most of the season did not bring up attendance to the final years in the metrodome. There was a chance, the fans spoke
  22. old nurse
    The notification for this wiped out what I was typing..
  23. old nurse
    It seems like every year there is the same conversation about spending.
  24. old nurse
    Chase Petty says hello to all the good folks. By the time anyone figures out if the Twins last the trade it really will not matter anymore
  25. old nurse
    They need a replacement for Gray and Taylor, they need a late inning reliever. They need a spot fr the minor league with an invite to spring training reliever, most people would be ery happy if that was filled by Woodruff as he would go to the 60 day list the minute it was available If they had intentions of DFAing anyone they would have already done it. Hoping for bounce back player is not something that is going to not going to help this team unless they clear out (sell low) their own current players that are bounce back or developing players. That there are far too many of.
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