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  1. Fatbat
    Thats one way to look at it and I don’t disagree with you. What do say to someone that reflects back on the trade in a year from now and either wishes we had polo back for 12M or is happy the twins moved onto a guy making league minimum at DH/2B? Should the absence of that $12M option be spent? Im firmly in the camp of spending as much as they need to to win a WS. Trades like this are just fun to talk about. Doesn't really move the needle for me tho. Get me an actual front line starter. We got plenty of farm talent to fill position player holes.
  2. Fatbat
    So he added 2” and 60 lbs in 2 years. 3 more years of development and he will likely be in MLB and on his way to a nice career. Great get for the twins!!!
  3. Fatbat
    @cmoss84 and Falvey previously said the payroll would settle into the 125 to 140ish range. That would mean 12-30M more could be added in 2024 payroll. This trade is only a conduit to other moves that will improve the ‘24 roster.
  4. Fatbat
    Obviously but its an either/or. Pay 750k or 12M. Now its neither. If polo would not have been traded, one of those would have been paid. When the FO looks at the expected ‘25 budget, neither of those scenarios are there but are likely replaced by Lee’s rookie contract expense. Which was my original point. Where do you stop at the budget reallocation. How far do you travel down that road until you say the trade doesn’t have an effect on that cost.
  5. Fatbat
    I know that. You didn’t understand my point. There are many ways to talk about the dollars and the accounting of them. You should start with -10.5M for polo in ‘24, -750k possible buy out and -12M that we wont be paying polo in ‘25.
  6. Fatbat
    I agree. I just have issues with the way some justifications are stated and the way things are linked. For instance the whole 5.25M net. That includes paying the 40th guy on the roster. Why include that when we would have had to pay a 40th guy anyhow. Shouldn't that be separate? There is so many future tentacles to this deal but the pundits want to reach for a conclusion.
  7. Fatbat
    Based on fans in Seattle not liking Topa being traded away, it seems that he is going to be a fan favorite here. It seems he likes the high leverage situations so he might end up right next to Jax as a stopper. I am liking this trade more and more.
  8. Fatbat
    You don’t see it but stated a way that it could happen. Strange. a career ending injury settlement is also possible but about as unlikely as him having a lights out season and being worth every penny. Yet here we are…
  9. Fatbat
    I know that its 5.25M. If he is gone at some point, that # goes up. there is also no $750k buyout of polo if he tanks and gets sent by Seattle and not us. If Seattle keeps him, that is irrelevant but his 12M salary for ‘25 still wont be paid by us. Thats an added benefit that is a guaranteed savings for the future.
  10. Fatbat
    If he is DFA’d, he doesn’t walk away with $12M. He gets sent down the road and the twins use the $$$ on someone else. so. The twins dont have to pay 10.5 for polo. they have the $8M in the bank now. They aren’t going to lose in this situation.
  11. Fatbat
    Joking but not joking if he is a joke. I will rant about DFA’ng if he sucks. Im starting to think this trade is mostly about $$$$. our farm can replace polo in 24. the $8M can buy Desclafanti’s replacement if he sucks.
  12. Fatbat
    Lee getting a contract deal is maybe 40% chance. Lee getting traded is a .04% chance. The FO is cheap and will milk the rookie deals as long as they can.
  13. Fatbat
    Thats a good point but … 1. He may want to screw the brewers out of a QO comp pick. 2. If the Twins are rolling towards a deep run in the playoffs and have a 5 yr window to be perennial playoff team. He may want to be here.
  14. Fatbat
    I can think of 130M reasons
  15. Fatbat
    @nicksaviking Burnes wants a big contract. We simply give him a 4-5 yr ext with an average of 26-28M. Defer some of it. Its a possible deal closer to july when the brew crew is 8 games down and floundering.
  16. Fatbat
    So we got 2 pitchers for the 26man roster. Prospects and cash. ALL of these as assets that Polo got us. With 4 players, polo will have tentacles for many years as these 5 assets play, and buy other assets to improve the team. It may not be a better team today but games dont really count until summer. We got a lot we can do by then because of this trade.
  17. Fatbat
    With at 115M payroll atm, Falvey has already said about 145M is a likely upper limit. Im not a smart man but I can do simple math.
  18. Fatbat
    Gonzalez is rated by MLB almost exactly where erod was a year ago. Erod is older and a year or so closer to an MLB debut so it makes sense he is rated 30 spots higher out of hundreds of prospects. On the Twins list, he is slotted in at #4 right by erod. these guys share profile similarities but also several differences. GG for sure improves our farm system but is at least 2 years away from MLB
  19. Fatbat
    Watch some video on Topa, our bullpen is much better with him.
  20. Fatbat
    There is a lot to unpack in this deal after nothing this winter. Our SP and RP got better. Seattles infield got better. Our farm system got better. moving forward, If one young guy, takes his shot and runs with it out of spring training, our infield will be better. That guy could be Miranda, Martin, Lee, Severino etc. big question about our DH slot, not really tho. No polanco just means that others get more ABs there. I don’t like this trade yet but time will tell.
  21. Fatbat
    And who’s on first?
  22. Fatbat
    Seems like a few people on here are ready to DFA DeSclafani tomorrow at 8am.
  23. Fatbat
    I understand all that and you are not wrong. This whole offseason has been full of question marks and there are many more now that this trade is happening.
  24. Fatbat
    Got a few thoughts about this. 1. who cares if it’s basically a salary wash if it makes the ‘24 team better. 2. It addresses our need for SP depth in the short term… for better or worse. 3. It better defines where the FO is heading with the infield and who they expect to contribute going forward. 4. It reshapes the clubhouse more than the daily lineup.
  25. Fatbat
    Olivar cant be honorable mention when he is inside the top 20.
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