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    Are the Minnesota Twins the Least Relevant Team in Baseball?

    I’m genuinely asking this question—combining recent performance, lifetime achievement, and cultural staying power, are the Minnesota Twins the least thought-about team in the league?

    Greggory Masterson
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    At the onset, I want to make myself clear; I love my favorite baseball team, and I’m not being malicious or trying to rub the organization’s nose in it. I had the thought a few weeks ago, and I’ve been turning it over in my head.

    If you consider how involved each team is in the modern baseball landscape, their history as a franchise, and how prominent they are in the culture, I think that the Twins are the least relevant team in baseball.

    Please understand, I don’t mean the worst team in baseball, or the worst organization in baseball history. I mean: If you were to start talking about baseball with a stranger, how long would the conversation go before the Minnesota Twins were mentioned? The Colorado Rockies are more notable than the Twins right now, for instance, because their losing ways are so extreme. You could probably throw the West Sacramento Athletics, Chicago White Sox, and Pittsburgh Pirates into that pile, as well—they’re so bad that they’re relevant. There's relocation intrigue in one place, and the specter of a wasted generational megastar in another.

    On the flip side, obviously, there are a ton of teams who are clearly more relevant to baseball than the Twins, based on historical success, their market size, or any other unsubtle reasons. The Braves and Cubs, America’s national cable teams, fall under that category. So do the historically entrenched Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees, and Philadelphia Phillies. Some combination of market size, history, and recent success also exclude the Houston Astros, New York Mets, St. Louis Cardinals, and San Francisco Giants.

    There are some less successful teams and prominent teams that are also, nonetheless, more central to the conversation than the Twins. For instance, despite their recent struggles, the Detroit Tigers and Baltimore Orioles (even if these aren’t the original Orioles) carry a certain legacy as the current iterations of original American League teams.

    The Texas Rangers, without their recent World Series, may be in a similar relevancy class as the Twins, but it’s hard to ignore a Commissioner’s Trophy awarded in the past five years. Dallas-Ft. Worth is also an enormous market, even if it doesn't always feel like one in the baseball world. Likewise, their opponents in that series (the Arizona Diamondbacks) were vaulted a bit more into the spotlight. They’re also helped by their success in the recent past—and an iconic look. In the modern game, the attachment of spring training to Arizona also makes the growing Phoenix area play up as a baseball market. When baseball things happen there, they leave a heavier footprint in the national conversation than the sheer market size might imply.

    It’s not just about how good or bad the team is when we’re talking about relevance. The iconography of the Diamondbacks franchise, especially in their 1990s teal and purple, has staying power. The Milwaukee Brewers’ iconic ball-and-glove logo, the Florida Marlins’ teal caps, the Athletics’ Kelly greens, the Padres’ brown, the Royals’ baby blue. There are certain logos, insignias, and color schemes that lock into fans’ heads—and even the general population’s.

    The Twins do not have that type of staying power. The Twins’ 'TC' and 'M' are not fashion statements, like the classic Yankees or Mets 'NY', Dodgers 'LA' (formerly, 'B', or even the White Sox 'SOX' or the Pirates 'P'. This isn't because the logos aren't good, exactly. Maybe the problem is having gotten caught in between, and now using two different cap and cornerstone logos so evenly. Either way, the brand is diminished. With the exception of City Connect uniforms, all of the teams listed above wear the same logo on their cap every night. 

    So, what do the Twins bring to the table? I think we’ve spent enough time on high fashion, but I hope that what I’m trying to say about cultural consciousness is getting through. They have been successful in the worst division in baseball over the last quarter-century. They won two World Series in 1987 and 1991. They have a handful of Hall of Famers wearing their caps—Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva, Rod Carew, Bert Blyleven, Kirby Puckett, Jim Kaat and Joe Mauer. With the exception of Carew, though, it’s a group that doesn’t get brought up often. They had a few stars in their recent past—Byron Buxton, Carlos Correa, Mauer, Justin Morneau, and Johan Santana likely being the most prominent. But you know who the most famous Minnesota Twin of the 21st century is, for most of the world's baseball fans? David Ortiz.

    They haven’t been great recently, but they haven’t been comically bad, either—at least since the 2011-2016 run that placed them at the bottom of the American League. They have existed for a while in a middle ground that doesn’t command much attention. Even their 0-18 playoff losing streak isn’t a talker anymore, now that it's over. The Mariners and Pirates can tell you how quickly the extra notes in national columns and the buzz from other fan bases die down, once you go from an active streak of historical playoff absence or anguish to a merely recent one.

    I’ll speedrun the teams I feel are in contention for the most irrelevant team in baseball, and why I think they’re more relevant than the Twins. The San Diego Padres are one of the most exciting teams in baseball right now. The Cincinnati Reds are the “first” professional baseball team, they have an iconic look, they had a great Big Red Machine run, and they once employed Ken Griffey Jr. They also currently employ Elly De La Cruz, an objectively worse version of Buxton but a much more famous player, which is illustrative. The Washington Nationals play baseball in the nation’s capital, but they’re probably close to the Twins in relevance, if you ignore their recent World Series and their Expos history. They have a chance to tumble into the cellar in this regard, but it hasn't happened yet.

    The Angels are on the Twins’ level of recent success, but they recently employed the best two players in baseball (and still have one of them, a surefire, utterly fascinating future Hall of Famer), making them a national punchline, and they even had a more popular children’s movie than Little Big League. (We all know Little Big League is a better movie, but we're matching up Luke Edwards and Timothy Busfield against Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Danny Glover, here.) They also play in a huge market and are a semi-serious threat to sign a big free agent every winter.

    I like to think of the Milwaukee Brewers as a sister team to the Twins, matching their lack of historic success and star power (Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, and Ryan Braun stack up pretty evenly with Killebrew, Puckett, and Mauer), but they’re much more successful right now and boast an iconic logo. They're going to draw over 2.5 million fans to the park this year, not counting some October sellouts.

    The Miami Marlins and Tampa Bay Rays also live in the Twins’ domain. However, their newness (and some bold fashion choices in the short history of each) plays in their favor. The Marlins have been so bad that they’re relevant—and have still won two World Series more recently than Minnesota. Tampa Bay has current events (their ballpark being damaged), recent success, and narratives about analytics attached to them. There are a lot of similarities between the Blue Jays and Twins, but it’s probably a little egocentric to pretend that an entire country’s only team is less relevant than one of the medium-market US-based teams, and they certainly have more star power, with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Even if half of Canada rejected the Jays as merely Toronto's or Ontario's team, that's a big-market behemoth. And they, too, have two World Series wins more recent than the Twins'.

    Within the division, Cleveland and Kansas City seem to be the best contenders for least relevant team in baseball. However, Cleveland was the subject of perhaps the most famous baseball movie of all time; have been more successful in the recent past; and have been the subject of national debate over their name for decades. (Not all relevance is good relevance, but it's a thing.) They also have the longest World Series drought, by far, dating back to 1948. That's a narrative that will capture attention every time they're good. The Twins, Orioles (last title: 1983) and Pirates (1979) haven't yet reached that level where the losing becomes part of the lore.

    Kansas City would probably best Minnesota, but they did win a World Series in the past decade, and like I said above, they have an iconic look. They also have Bobby Witt Jr., and while they haven't yet secured funding for it, a new ballpark is on the horizon.

    If there’s an American League sister organization to the Twins, it’s the Mariners. They have both struggled to have any postseason success for decades, and they exist in secondary markets. But the star power associated with the Mariners, such as Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Ichiro, or Griffey, far outshines the Twins. Their teal is iconic, and they’re more involved in the national discussion, whether that’s in their MVP candidate Cal Raleigh or their yearly high-profile fight against the Astros and Rangers for a playoff berth.

    The Twins' best case for national relevancy, at least since they were knocked out of the postseason in 2023, was when they were up for sale. Now, even that bit of intrigue has been canceled—not consummated, but called off. There's no way to become more invisible to the baseball world than to not pay off even when you do promise something of interest.

    But that’s just my opinion. How wrong am I? Do you think the Twins are more top of mind than any other franchise? I appeared on Locked On Twins with Brandon Warne to discuss this topic a few weeks ago, if you'd like to give it a listen. 

     

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    11 minutes ago, terrydactyls said:

    You listed ten teams as clearly more relevant than the Twins.  Seven of the teams are East Coast or West Coast teams.  I think this is a major part of the irrelevance.   The Twins are in the middle of the country and in the northern half.  What media is going to give a damn about anything that happens in Minnesota (with the exception of a school shooting or a George Floyd incident).  Not enough viewers i.e. advertising revenues.  There's an old saying that money talks while the middle of the country isn't worth finishing this saying. 

     

    9 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    Yes, it is. Being realistic doesn't mean I take things too seriously or however you want to describe what you're suggesting. If I'm going to have a discussion about something, though, I'm going to put thought into it and come to the best, most honest conclusion I can. You're investing the same amount of time and energy into this conversation as I am, but because you have the optimistic view that ignores the reality of where the Twins stand in the national hierarchy your time and effort don't count?

    It doesn't take me any extra effort to be honest about their position in MLB. I'm home now and will feed and walk my dog before making myself some dinner and enjoying some Master Class and a book. Won't think about this convo again. I don't have to ignore reality and just be blindly positive to keep things in perspective. 

    Best of luck to you with that.

    The team could be close to the least relevant team of the 30 teams as of now but there still in the conversations about the deadline purge .

    We have a relevant history that most true fans know around the country  , I travel alot and strike up baseball conversations if I notice someone wearing baseball apparel , they know our great players that put on a twins uniform ...

    The question I would pose is not national relevance.  We have always been in the second tier there, but rather are they relevant to Minnesotans?

    Would you take them over the Wild, Vikings, Loons, Lynx, Timberwolves?

    Has the anger at the Pohlads completely poisoned the well of Minnesota baseball?  Are the Saints more interesting than the Twins?

    I continue to come on this site daily, but it is my love of baseball not this team that draws me.

    2 hours ago, weitz41 said:

    Well might as well disagree with the rest of the common posters...I respect your point terry. But if that were true. Maybe less people would have watched the Vikings game last night? Not 28.5 million. Being a good or great team trumps (yikes) location

    Good point. Look at the Green Bay Packers' history.

    4 hours ago, LastOnePicked said:

    I'm not sure if they're the least relevant, but I can say this: they are a nothing organization right now. There's absolutely nothing to them. They have no identity. They don't excel at anything. Fan energy is anemic. I've loved baseball all my life, but even friends and family members who used to love the Twins never - and I mean never - talk about them when we get together these days,

     

     

    This!

    6 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

    I’ve never met a marlins fan in my life. They’ve finished last in attendance in the NL all but two years (one during Covid) since 2006. Two non losing seasons since 2010 (one again during Covid). Even when they won the WS, they followed with sell offs. If their own fans don’t care, how could they be relevant to the league as a whole?

    I can’t believe you haven’t had the privilege of meeting Marlins Man

    I don’t dispute much of what you’re saying, but one counterpoint: the Diamondbacks have by far the ugliest uniforms in the sport, and that is and has been consistently the case through any alt jerseys, design identity updates, etc. Not sure anyone’s choice to sport that cap or jersey really confers more iconicity or relevance on the team. 

    I agree with your assessment.  I’ll take it a step further and say they are the most irrelevant professional sports team in Minnesota.  The Vikings are always going to be #1 mainly because the NFL is a machine and knows how to market their league and teams.  The Timberwolves recent success and superstar Ant has moved them past the Twins in the past few years as #2.  The Wild I would put as #3.  Even in the 4th most popular pro sport in the country in Minnesota hockey is always relevant and the team is always a playoff contender with a star and better marketing.  I also think the Lynx popularity and relevance today is greater than the Twins. They win, they have a devoted fan base and have perhaps the best player in the league.  So that leaves the Twins at 5th not far ahead of the Loons.  The Twins should be #2 or #3 even when bad, but their issues stem much deeper than the team on the field.  When you have an ownership group that doesn’t care, eventually that will trickle down the casual fan base.  The Twins and MLB’s marketing is awful. Byron Buxton should be a superstar.  But the team hasn’t embraced him as that nor shown the national baseball audience how good he really is. I’m not a marketing guy, but the team needs to find a better way to market the team starting locally. The other teams appear to be involved and out in the community much more often, maybe the Twins are, but they do a bad job of showing it if that’s the case. They have done the opposite instead. It’s hard to watch them on TV, and most people literally had no idea how to watch them early in the year, largely because the team didn’t do anything to help the fan base with that.  We had to figure it out ourselves and many gave up trying after their poor start.  Unfortunately for the Twins the only way they will become relevant in our own market, let alone nationally will be to put an exciting, successful team on the field but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen for a long time after recent events.  So, if they can’t stay relevant in Minnesota, how do they stay relevant nationally. This is all an internal issue that needs to be fixed but likely will not anytime soon.

    Appreciate all the thoughtful comments. We could debate what metrics determine “relevance “ all day.
     

    I would add that, growing up in the Twin Cities in the 1960’s and 70’s my family and my cohort would have some connection to the team all season. We knew who was starting that day, who was hitting, who wasn’t, etc. WCCO would be on someone’s radio in the background and the games were part of the ambiance. Fast forward 50 years and I can’t imagine (most) Twins “fans” attempting to stay connected on that level. Someone comps them tickets, they buy some merchandise to fit in, they get a glimpse, then they return to the million other things competing for their attention. It was a thing they “did” then moved on. Likely the same dynamic in most markets. But what makes the Twins irrelevant IMO is the sheer apathy of this market and its media outlets. The Twins are irrelevant largely because they’re expected to be. We have an ownership group and business model that seems to do its best to alienate baseball fans. Mission accomplished. 

    14 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

    The question I would pose is not national relevance.  We have always been in the second tier there, but rather are they relevant to Minnesotans?

    Would you take them over the Wild, Vikings, Loons, Lynx, Timberwolves?

    The Loons are never going to get me into that stadium as long as they keep playing Wonderwall.

    17 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

    I’ve never met a marlins fan in my life. They’ve finished last in attendance in the NL all but two years (one during Covid) since 2006. Two non losing seasons since 2010 (one again during Covid). Even when they won the WS, they followed with sell offs. If their own fans don’t care, how could they be relevant to the league as a whole?

    It will never not be weird that they have two World Series titles and zero division titles.

    But to the question at hand:  I think the Marlins have the best case for the title of most irrelevant franchise right now, mainly because they've been solidifying their irrelevancy for years; their kind of fan apathy (AA attendance at one of MLB's newest stadiums in what any other sports league would consider a prime market) isn't cultivated overnight.  Other potential claimants to the crown have had something newsworthy recently (Skenes in Pittsburgh, relocation in Oakland, the Rangers/Diamondbacks World Series that will stump a lot of people at trivia night decades from now) to separate themselves from the Marlins.  The Bomba Squad alone pushes the Twins past the Marlins for relevancy, and that was one team that won zero playoff games six years ago.  Achieving lower relevance than the Marlins is a mighty high bar to clear

    The Marlins should be a cautionary tale for what long-term neglect from ownership can do to a fanbase.  They're the Ghost of Christmas Future for miserly baseball owners

    Did we just get rid of our entire scouting department??  I understand scouting isn't what it used to be, but this appears to be another cost-cutting move.   That playoff series win of 2023 feels like a different decade.   I'm not sure how they are expecting to keep fans?   How loyal can a person be?  It's one thing to suffer through some losing years, never get a big free agent (I guess outside of Correa), etc.  It's another thing completely when the owners go out of their way to make the fan experience worse in every possible way to save what amounts to pennies to them.   I have watched the Twins for 40 years and never have I been less interested or more discouraged.  And this counts the contraction days.   With the stadium they were given, the Pohlad's have no excuses other than they ran this team into the ground.    Again.    Living in Madison, watching the Brewers thrive with less, is both infuriating and enticing.  




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