The Pohlad Empire (Part Five): Downtown Drain

[tony&rodney]

1 hour ago, Major League Ready said:

I have already done a fair amount of it but I also know that you any many others would just completely ignore it if it was me posting it.  

You should not assume the worst. I would read what you have to say. Differences of opinion are not a bad thing.

[Teflon]

9 hours ago, NYCTK said:

Now, if politics comes up in a thread about the bullpen, that's another story. 

The Twins bullpen is a known haven for lefties.

[TheLeviathan]

12 hours ago, Peter Labuza said:

“To be clear, strong wage growth is a good thing, But for wage growth to be sustainable, it needs to be consistent with two percent inflation.” -Jerome Powell at the Brookings Institute, not sure how else to read this beyond “workers should make less money and have less spending power.”

I enjoyed it enough to read the rest after basically checking out of the Twins section of this site.  Appreciate the work.  Ignore our pearl clutching friends who think every comment is a political point they have to complain about.

[Major League Ready]

13 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

You should not assume the worst. I would read what you have to say. Differences of opinion are not a bad thing.

There is not a single topic that has gotten nearly as much play as how much this organization spends.  There has been countless articles and thousands of posts insisting the team is cheap. People here absolutely love to rant about spending.  It's become a primary function of this site.  I would assume a TD writer would love to provide the facts surrounding their cheapness.  It would be a huge hit to illustrate their cheapness.  I would think there is a TD writer that would want the glory of illustrating these facts.  writers and posters here a generally quite good at proving factual basis for their opinions on player performance opinions but the most commonly asserted fact on this site has never been supported by fact.  

I think the Pohlads, in general terms, are mediocre owners and I am reasonably confident the new owners will better overall.  I am quite aware you don't complain.  However, the majority rant constantly without supporting facts which is not exactly rational or intelligent.  

Is TD and their followers interested in the facts.   I will join in the condemnation if it's actually proven the Pohalds are cheaper than most or even average?

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, Major League Ready said:

There is not a single topic that has gotten nearly as much play as how much this organization spends.  There has been countless articles and thousands of posts insisting the team is cheap. People here absolutely love to rant about spending.  It's become a primary function of this site.  I would assume a TD writer would love to provide the facts surrounding their cheapness.  It would be a huge hit to illustrate their cheapness.  I would think there is a TD writer that would want the glory of illustrating these facts.  writers and posters here a generally quite good at proving factual basis for their opinions on player performance opinions but the most commonly asserted fact on this site has never been supported by fact.  

I think the Pohlads, in general terms, are mediocre owners and I am reasonably confident the new owners will better overall.  I am quite aware you don't complain.  However, the majority rant constantly without supporting facts which is not exactly rational or intelligent.  

Is TD and their followers interested in the facts.   I will join in the condemnation if it's actually proven the Pohalds are cheaper than most or even average?

You go ask the Twins, and at least 3 other mlb teams, for their books and get back to us on that. 

[Major League Ready]

28 minutes ago, NYCTK said:

You go ask the Twins, and at least 3 other mlb teams, for their books and get back to us on that. 

It's not remotely necessary to have their books to produce a meaningful comparison (estimate) using an unbiased source like Statista.   All you need is a subscription. 

There are also numerous sources for revenue rank and there are multiple sources with very accurate accounts for payroll.  It would be very easy to produce revenue vs revenue rank.  It's obvious you don't want to be informed but perhaps others would like to have some factual data by which to form an opinion.

[Linus]

On 1/17/2025 at 8:43 AM, Peter Labuza said:

“To be clear, strong wage growth is a good thing, But for wage growth to be sustainable, it needs to be consistent with two percent inflation.” -Jerome Powell at the Brookings Institute, not sure how else to read this beyond “workers should make less money and have less spending power.”

You might consider a class on economics.

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, Major League Ready said:

It's obvious you don't want to be informed but perhaps others would like to have some factual data by which to form an opinion.

Then just do it already. Jfc. 

 

[Squirrel]

20 hours ago, NYCTK said:

None of anything that's written on this website NEEDS to be written. I found it very interesting, and although questionable in some inferences or conclusions, a far more engaging read than the fact that the bullpen is projected to be pretty good. 

This is a good statement in that on this site there are choices in what we read. And some writers put in a lot more effort than others, so while a subject might not be to our taste, and the opinions and conclusions drawn we might not agree with, we can still find it interesting because the effort made it worthwhile vs the writer who just throws it out there without much substance or thought.

[NYCTK]

3 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

Yes. The administrators of this site are extreme liberals. It's not uncommon, actually, and while smear articles like this one come across as inaccurate, slanderous and distasteful, they will continue to be welcomed on this site due to politics.

So true. It's probably owned by George Soros. Conservatives have been silenced in the media these days. That's what I heard on Fox News, Facebook, Twitter, and Joe Rogan. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, bean5302 said:

Yes. The administrators of this site are extreme liberals. It's not uncommon, actually, and while smear articles like this one come across as inaccurate, slanderous and distasteful, they will continue to be welcomed on this site due to politics.

This is the written word so it's technically libelous, not slanderous.

Also, 

[Brock Beauchamp]

13 hours ago, SteveLV said:

So political discussion and slants are permissible if the owners of the site have reviewed and approved of the content?

In a word, yes.

That's how owning a business works.

[TheLeviathan]

4 hours ago, Linus said:

You might consider a class on economics.

Economics is a far more complicated field than your comment indicates.  Which, perhaps indicates, that your suggestion may be better directed inwards.

[Linus]

1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said:

Economics is a far more complicated field than your comment indicates.  Which, perhaps indicates, that your suggestion may be better directed inwards.

Well I have a degree in economics so I’m pretty comfortable with my knowledge in this area.

[TheLeviathan]

59 minutes ago, Linus said:

Well I have a degree in economics so I’m pretty comfortable with my knowledge in this area.

I'm sure you do.  Given how many economic theories and models there are, making sweeping, declarative statements backs that up.

[Linus]

30 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

I'm sure you do.  Given how many economic theories and models there are, making sweeping, declarative statements backs that up.

Or a more likely event is that you don’t know as much about this as you think.  

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

In a word, yes.

That's how owning a business works.

Good luck on a business model that represents in its comment policy to be apolitical but in fact promotes political articles.  Hypocrisy like that turns off half its potential audience with zero effort.  The Workers Daily model won't garner caretakers....

Here's a little economic theory from someone who's bought and sold dozens of businesses:  if someone values your business more than you do, then sell it.  The Pohlads are tied to declining attendance, a perpetually whining local media and a metro area in physical and cultural decline.  From an ROI standpoint it's an easy decision.

And there's a hint for TD, too.  What kind of value will the market place on just another pedestrian, second-rate political media outlet?  Not much.  If you're going to be the best Twins media source, then focus on sports and leave politics to losers.

[TheLeviathan]

35 minutes ago, Linus said:

Or a more likely event is that you don’t know as much about this as you think.  

I'm sure the thousands of papers and books on economics have all been in total agreement.  Totally tracks.

[Linus]

Just now, TheLeviathan said:

I'm sure the thousands of papers and books on economics have all been in total agreement.  Totally tracks.

Okay I’m not interested in this kind of bickering so have a nice evening.

[Guest]

On 1/17/2025 at 1:40 PM, Brock Beauchamp said:

This series of articles has done very well in reads, so perhaps you're just wrong that people don't care why a family is selling a team they owned for four decades.

Perhaps.  How many new caretakers plunked their money down in the past 48 hours?

[Brock Beauchamp]

44 minutes ago, Minderbinder said:

Perhaps.  How many new caretakers plunked their money down in the past 48 hours?

A ton, actually, because the Winter Meltdown is wildly popular and happening in seven days.

The thing is that the overwhelming majority of people simply DO NOT CARE if every article is exactly to their liking. They have better things to concern themselves with in life. We have our views, you have yours. 99% of our pieces don’t sniff a topic that’s even politics-adjacent.

[tony&rodney]

59 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

A ton, actually, because the Winter Meltdown is wildly popular and happening in seven days.

The thing is that the overwhelming majority of people simply DO NOT CARE if every article is exactly to their liking. They have better things to concern themselves with in life. We have our views, you have yours. 99% of our pieces don’t sniff a topic that’s even politics-adjacent.

Perhaps the greatest fear of my life is living in a world/place where everyone looks or remotely thinks like me. In the past it was a recurring nightmare. Perhaps this is due to attendance at a male military school, all dressed alike and pretty much the same size and looks too. To me that was/is scary.

There are times when I read things on Twins Daily that make me cringe but it is really easy to stick to baseball for the most part and I find it useful, if not necessarily educational, to read the comments from others who have differing opinions. So thank you to all who put out their opinions and sometimes use various means to support their thoughts. If I ever disagree, know that you are at the very least  keeping me from having nightmares of living in a homogenous world.

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, tony&rodney said:

Perhaps the greatest fear of my life is living in a world/place where everyone looks or remotely thinks like me. In the past it was a recurring nightmare. Perhaps this is due to attendance at a male military school, all dressed alike and pretty much the same size and looks too. To me that was/is scary.

There are times when I read things on Twins Daily that make me cringe but it is really easy to stick to baseball for the most part and I find it useful, if not necessarily educational, to read the comments from others who have differing opinions. So thank you to all who put out their opinions and sometimes use various means to support their thoughts. If I ever disagree, know that you are at the very least  keeping me from having nightmares of living in a homogenous world.

Dude, I don’t care for ~30% of what we publish here. And that’s TOTALLY FINE. I don’t have to love and agree with every single thing, that’s boring. This place is built to allow content creators to find their voice and hone the craft while getting paid for it. That’s pretty cool and leads to a wide disparity of opinions and views while always striving to be respectful and informative. 

[Guest]

16 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

A ton, actually, because the Winter Meltdown is wildly popular and happening in seven days.

The thing is that the overwhelming majority of people simply DO NOT CARE if every article is exactly to their liking. They have better things to concern themselves with in life. We have our views, you have yours. 99% of our pieces don’t sniff a topic that’s even politics-adjacent.

Well then, I'm among the overwhelming majority who, I hope, won't be turned off by the (assumed) 1%.  And I wish you luck with that model....

[h2oface]

On 1/18/2025 at 4:45 PM, tony&rodney said:

Perhaps the greatest fear of my life is living in a world/place where everyone looks or remotely thinks like me. In the past it was a recurring nightmare. Perhaps this is due to attendance at a male military school, all dressed alike and pretty much the same size and looks too. To me that was/is scary.

There are times when I read things on Twins Daily that make me cringe but it is really easy to stick to baseball for the most part and I find it useful, if not necessarily educational, to read the comments from others who have differing opinions. So thank you to all who put out their opinions and sometimes use various means to support their thoughts. If I ever disagree, know that you are at the very least  keeping me from having nightmares of living in a homogenous world.

I just get confused when you refer to yourself as...... me.

[h2oface]

On 1/19/2025 at 8:13 AM, Minderbinder said:

Well then, I'm among the overwhelming majority who, I hope, won't be turned off by the (assumed) 1%.  And I wish you luck with that model....

Overwhelming must mean something different than I understand it to be. Literally. Or is it figuratively?