Blue Jays (Berrios) vs Twins (Matthews): 8/31/24, 6:10pm

[Patzky]

1 minute ago, mrtwinsfan said:

Will Rocco send him back out or to the showers  ??

Kinda moot. 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

And the bats turn the lead off man getting in base into nothing.

Bad baseball...

[exeoud]

Pitching costs a premium, and especially guys who can miss bats. The fact is, ownership won't pay up in free agency, the front office won't pay up in the trade market, and they take 1 pitcher in the first 6 rounds of the draft this year, and this is what you get. A bunch of guys like Zebby, SWR, and Festa that have good or bad outings depending on how their BABIP luck goes that day.

[Physics Guy]

6 minutes ago, karcherd said:

This is on Rocco and Maki just as much as Zebby.  They are trying to get him to throw the high fastball past the hitters like Pablo last night.  That is not his game, he needs to use all his pitches.  This trying to match up on every pitch and at bat doesn't work.  Your players are either good enough or not, let them play with their strengths.  They did this to Ober when he got blown up as well, had him focused on using his third pitch.

Ok, so you are the second guy to say throwing high pitches is on the coaches.  Can you explain this?  I turned on the game mid-1st and missed pregame.  Was this something they discussed?  Seems to me this is just a situation of bad command by a rookie pitcher. 

[mrtwinsfan]

fastball -- pretty straight 

[Physics Guy]

6 minutes ago, karcherd said:

This is on Rocco and Maki just as much as Zebby.  They are trying to get him to throw the high fastball past the hitters like Pablo last night.  That is not his game, he needs to use all his pitches.  This trying to match up on every pitch and at bat doesn't work.  Your players are either good enough or not, let them play with their strengths.  They did this to Ober when he got blown up as well, had him focused on using his third pitch.

Ok, so you are the second guy to say throwing high pitches is on the coaches.  Can you explain this?  I turned on the game mid-1st and missed pregame.  Was this something they discussed?  Seems to me this is just a situation of bad command by a rookie pitcher. 

[C-Gangster]

Poor zebby i really like him what happend.

Edited August 31, 2024 by C-Gangster

[HarmonK03]

Just now, Physics Guy said:

Ok, so you are the second guy to say throwing high pitches is on the coaches.  Can you explain this?  I turned on the game mid-1st and missed pregame.  Was this something they discussed?  Seems to me this is just a situation of bad command by a rookie pitcher. 

It was talked about by Perkins that was the game plan because they don't hit 4 seam fastballs well.  He needs to set up his fastball with his other pitches.

[C-Gangster]

Oh my God 

[C-Gangster]

Whats wrong with the twins

[CRF]

The can is open!

[exeoud]

Just now, Physics Guy said:

Ok, so you are the second guy to say throwing high pitches is on the coaches.  Can you explain this?  I turned on the game mid-1st and missed pregame.  Was this something they discussed?  Seems to me this is just a situation of bad command by a rookie pitcher. 

It's a late round pick pitching like a late round pick, there is no mystery here. The Twins think they are smarter than everyone else and can turn guys into aces by adding a couple ticks of velo. Meanwhile other teams are taking SEC/Big 12/ACC/top high school pitching early and often and aren't starting 3 rookies in a wild card race.

[Physics Guy]

1 minute ago, karcherd said:

It was talked about by Perkins that was the game plan because they don't hit 4 seam fastballs well.  He needs to set up his fastball with his other pitches.

You mean like not leaving a slider middle, middle???

[Aggies7]

lol wtf is this, guess I’ll turn the stooges back on. At least that slapstick is supposed to be a farce 😂

[C-Gangster]

Someone just put a position player in already.

[C-Gangster]

Just now, C-Gangster said:

Someone just put a position player in already.

😰

[TwinsCD]

Hey Manny, it's a 9-run game, how about selling out for your pitcher to get out of the inning.  But I know you're not known for your glove.  Not even sure what you're known for.

[mrtwinsfan]

My My-  Margot looked a bit confused ?

[Physics Guy]

I guess now we know why Varland isn't in the bullpen.  Gotta think he may take Zebby's place after tonight.

[HarmonK03]

Just now, TwinsCD said:

Hey Manny, it's a 9-run game, how about selling out for your pitcher to get out of the inning.  But I know you're not known for your glove.  Not even sure what you're known for.

His pinch hitting prowess.

[C-Gangster]

Why twins?

[mrtwinsfan]

Hey  Zeb was 5 runs better than the 1st,   takes time guys

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

You're fighting for a playoff spot. Playing a team that is under .500.

Speaks volumes.

I've seen enough for tonight. Hopefully Ober is on his game tomorrow.

[Aggies7]

Missed chance to have roto rooter as a sponsor tonight. “When your pitching pipeline grows a clog…call”

[Strombomb]

I'm at the game... Feeling kinda embarrassed....there seems to be more Toronto fans than Twins fans here. 😒

[Fatbat]

What happened??

[exeoud]

The Twins really just need to cut these cheery sideline reports from Audra when they're playing this poorly.

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, Strombomb said:

I'm at the game... Feeling kinda embarrassed....there seems to be more Toronto fans than Twins fans here. 😒

They travel annoyingly well. Twins have been bottom 1/3 in the league in attendance all season. Ownership probably welcomes the bump 

[CRF]

Somebody needs to go give Zebby a big hug.

[Aggies7]

I remember when Tyler duffey had a similar outing in his rookie year also against the blue jays. That was his debut though.

And he turned it around to get that 1.8 career WAR! Don’t give up zebby!