2023 Vikings Regular Season Thread

[Aggies7]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

The giants OL is awful

The giants have played one good game in the last 10+ months and it was against the Vikings. When Daniel jones had the game of his life. The giants have been 💩 other than that 

[Mike Sixel]

20 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

The giants have played one good game in the last 10+ months and it was against the Vikings. When Daniel jones had the game of his life. The giants have been 💩 other than that 

I just wish the FO was this honest with themselves.... And trade guys

[Mike Sixel]

20 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

The giants have played one good game in the last 10+ months and it was against the Vikings. When Daniel jones had the game of his life. The giants have been 💩 other than that 

I just wish the FO was this honest with themselves.... And trade guys

[Aggies7]

9 sacks on daniel jones tonight lol

[nicksaviking]

2 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

The giants OL is awful

Yeah, that was brutal.

[Parfigliano]

2 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

The giants have played one good game in the last 10+ months and it was against the Vikings. When Daniel jones had the game of his life. The giants have been 💩 other than that 

What a shock.

[Danchat]

12 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

9 sacks on daniel jones tonight lol

They got 11 sacks total, 4 players had 2+ sacks each. Ridicluous!

[Aggies7]

One thing is for sure, Kirk is going to get PAID by someone, probably overpaid. So much awful QB play, highest bidder wins

[Mike Sixel]

The OL is somehow near the top in run blocking? (I don't have a link, but I saw that earlier). 

They're going to get destroyed this week. And people will still complain about fans being negative....

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

The OL is somehow near the top in run blocking? (I don't have a link, but I saw that earlier). 

They're going to get destroyed this week. And people will still complain about fans being negative....

Vikings run blocking grades are probably similar to bullpen stats. Small sample sizes sway the results.

[Vanimal46]

The time is now. Embrace the suck and trade anyone that is not a part of the 2024 and beyond teams. I am also concerned that Jefferson appears to be more upset every week. 

[Mike Sixel]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

The time is now. Embrace the suck and trade anyone that is not a part of the 2024 and beyond teams. I am also concerned that Jefferson appears to be more upset every week. 

All of that. But they won't

[Vanimal46]

The 49ers are going to walk to the Super Bowl… We should be talking about them as a dynasty rival for the Chiefs, but of course, injuries to every QB on roster in the NFC Championship Game prevented that. 

[Aggies7]

3 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

The time is now. Embrace the suck and trade anyone that is not a part of the 2024 and beyond teams. I am also concerned that Jefferson appears to be more upset every week. 

It’s a WR thing. They have to be pampered to varying degrees. JJ is obviously an incredible talent and it would stink to lose him. But I can’t imagine he’s going to be too happy having a rookie QB (assuming) throwing to him on a bad team

[Aggies7]

12 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The 49ers are going to walk to the Super Bowl… We should be talking about them as a dynasty rival for the Chiefs, but of course, injuries to every QB on roster in the NFC Championship Game prevented that. 

Shaping up to be a 49ers/eagles rematch. I hate the eagles so I’ll lean SF

[Vanimal46]

5 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

It’s a WR thing. They have to be pampered to varying degrees. JJ is obviously an incredible talent and it would stink to lose him. But I can’t imagine he’s going to be too happy having a rookie QB (assuming) throwing to him on a bad team

I think the next QB has to be personally chosen by Jefferson for him to be happy and willing to sign a long term QB. As crazy as that sounds, the NFL is becoming more and more like the NBA with players forcing their way out of a situation they don’t want to be in. 

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

I think the next QB has to be personally chosen by Jefferson for him to be happy and willing to sign a long term QB. As crazy as that sounds, the NFL is becoming more and more like the NBA with players forcing their way out of a situation they don’t want to be in. 

They could get such a haul if they were to trade him. But then again someone who knows what they’re doing would have to do the drafting. Not sure we have that

[nicksaviking]

13 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

I think the next QB has to be personally chosen by Jefferson for him to be happy and willing to sign a long term QB. As crazy as that sounds, the NFL is becoming more and more like the NBA with players forcing their way out of a situation they don’t want to be in. 

It would be great if Jefferson were putting a bug into Caleb Williams ear. Do you want to play for the eternal train wreck clubs like the Cardinals or the Bears? Or do you want to be throwing the ball to the best WR in the world. Pull a John Elway or Eli Manning.

I say that full well realizing I'd lose my freakin' mind if someone pulled that same move on the Vikings.

[Mike Sixel]

I'm just going to say this: I think they trade no one.......

[RpR]

They dumped good players and it shows.

[nicksaviking]

So PFT has listed rumors of the Jets trading Mecole Hardman and the Rams trading Van Jefferson.

Anyone else getting a bad feeling that the train wreck Vikings might do something stupid and actually trade for one of them?

[Vanimal46]

21 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

So PFT has listed rumors of the Jets trading Mecole Hardman and the Rams trading Van Jefferson.

Anyone else getting a bad feeling that the train wreck Vikings might do something stupid and actually trade for one of them?

Not really. Even if they do trade for them it will be nothing but a salary dump. It’s also telling about Nailor’s health status if either of these guys are future Vikings. 

[Mike Sixel]

24 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

So PFT has listed rumors of the Jets trading Mecole Hardman and the Rams trading Van Jefferson.

Anyone else getting a bad feeling that the train wreck Vikings might do something stupid and actually trade for one of them?

They should not  be giving up draft capital......

[nicksaviking]

20 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

They should not  be giving up draft capital......

Yes, there's no way they're coming back from this disastrous start, especially with Jefferson out. They just won 13 games last year, even if some fans want to call for a GM or coach to get replaced, there's zero chance of that happening. Everyone should feel comfortable with their jobs and accept organically being terrible this year; no need to try to spend any kind of equity trying to win six games instead of five.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Yes, there's no way they're coming back from this disastrous start, especially with Jefferson out. They just won 13 games last year, even if some fans want to call for a GM or coach to get replaced, there's zero chance of that happening. Everyone should feel comfortable with their jobs and accept organically being terrible this year; no need to try to spend any kind of equity trying to win six games instead of five.

I don't love with either coach or GM is doing, but it is way too early to bail on them. Frankly, the O isn't an issue and the D has no talent, so I don't know how you blame the coach. With average luck they have 2 more wins this year....KOC needs to be A LOT better at getting plays in, and Kirk has to be better at just going ahead if he isn't....and the challenges need better managing and clock management overall sucks, but that's fixable. 

The GM completely blowing their first draft is a killer, but whatever. It was one draft. Addison and Pace make this last one quite good (still hate the Oliver signing). 

[nicksaviking]

Yeah, KOC's issues seem to be in-game management, and I have to think that's fixable with experience and repetition. And not to make this into a Cousins thing, but an aggressive and smart QB would have just overridden many of the poor play calls and gone rogue when the coach displayed bad clock management. 

Adofo-Mensah I'm more concerned with. Those drafts have been awful, the trades have all seemed desperate and without long-term foresight and free agency has basically been nothing.

[Vanimal46]

26 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Yeah, KOC's issues seem to be in-game management, and I have to think that's fixable with experience and repetition. And not to make this into a Cousins thing, but an aggressive and smart QB would have just overridden many of the poor play calls and gone rogue when the coach displayed bad clock management. 

Adofo-Mensah I'm more concerned with. Those drafts have been awful, the trades have all seemed desperate and without long-term foresight and free agency has basically been nothing.

I have a hard time believing KOC regressed this much with in-game management. He orchestrated a lot of last second comebacks last year…

For whatever the reason, there appears to be a disconnect between KOC and Kirk this year. 

[Vanimal46]

The Falcons have agreed to trade for Rams WR Van Jefferson. It’s a 2025 pick swap — 6th and 7th rounders. Same salary dump trade terms for Akers, Claypool, etc. A nothing burger. 

[Aggies7]

JJ going on injured reserve and will be out at least 4 weeks. What an absolute train wreck this season is. Hopefully the twins can continue their run because that’s all we’ve got. At least the chance of a top 5 pick is increasing by the day 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

I have a hard time believing KOC regressed this much with in-game management. He orchestrated a lot of last second comebacks last year…

For whatever the reason, there appears to be a disconnect between KOC and Kirk this year. 

Disconnect somewhere. With how long Kirk waits to relay the play to the other players, I assumed it was the HC and OC, but maybe it's HC and QB.