Game Thread Twins vs BoSox 6:10 Pre Mortem Can't Do Trigonomtry

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The arm motion was definitely NOT sidearm as a standard third baseman would throw it. 

Yeah, it’s actually easier to make that play than it looks

[RickOShea]

Has wesley Johansen made an appearance, tonite?

[garn from vancouver]

just tuned in. seems like things are going as planned.

[Aggies7]

Cuzzi is just terrible 

[wsnydes]

2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Yeah, it’s actually easier to make that play than it looks

Yup.  Not an easy play, but not nearly as difficult as he made it look.

[RickOShea]

1 minute ago, garn from vancouver said:

just tuned in. seems like things are going as planned.

Hey Garn, grab a beverage and sit back.  This really becoming quite interesting.

[Aggies7]

Sox on an 8-0 run. Quick, someone call a timeout 

[RpR]

Twins need to win 9 games to avoid losing 100, do they play Cleveland 9 times.

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, wsnydes said:

Yup.  Not an easy play, but not nearly as difficult as he made it look.

Well a starting third baseman in the majors usually makes it

[RickOShea]

Garn, I'm not talking about the Twins' game.  I'm talking about the Gillete women's shaver, 'for those private areas".

[Aggies7]

Just now, RpR said:

Twins need to win 9 games to avoid losing 100, do they play Cleveland 9 times.

With this rotation, all bets are off. 

[wsnydes]

Just now, LVTwinsfan said:

Well a starting third baseman in the majors usually makes it

Correct, but that doesn't make it an easy play.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said.

[Danchat]

7 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Seems like all the arms the twins acquired in July are going to have to pan out for the twins to be competitive going forward. Not brimming with confidence in the trio of Jax, Barnes and Ober 

To be fair, none of those guys were billed as future rotation options... Jax and Barnes were barely top 50 prospects. Ober at least looks like a MLB arm but the other two are likely either going to be starting 2022 in AAA or will be DFA'd for their 40 man spot.

But that's not to say I'm not concerned about our pitching, because I absolutely am. 

[Aggies7]

How long ago was that second out lol

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, wsnydes said:

Correct, but that doesn't make it an easy play.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said.

No , I know, all I mean is your momentum is going forward on that play and you can use it to your advantage if you know how to make that throw

[RickOShea]

Just now, Danchat said:

To be fair, none of those guys were billed as future rotation options... Jax and Barnes were barely top 50 prospects. Ober at least looks like a MLB arm but the other two are likely either going to be starting 2022 in AAA or will be DFA'd for their 40 man spot.

But that's not to say I'm not concerned about our pitching, because I absolutely am. 

Wish the FO felt the same.

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, Danchat said:

To be fair, none of those guys were billed as future rotation options... Jax and Barnes were barely top 50 prospects. Ober at least looks like a MLB arm but the other two are likely either going to be starting 2022 in AAA or will be DFA'd for their 40 man spot.

But that's not to say I'm not concerned about our pitching, because I absolutely am. 

What is the rotation next year, honestly? Scary thoughts

[RickOShea]

Did anyone tell Jax, that during his beginning time in the majors, he has to give back $50,000 every time he loses.

[wsnydes]

2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

No , I know, all I mean is your momentum is going forward on that play and you can use it to your advantage if you know how to make that throw

Right.  He made it look about as unnatural and uninstinctual as one probably could.  Almost like he was thinking about it instead of just reacting.

[RickOShea]

Garv Sauce!!!!!!!!!!!

[RickOShea]

Is there anything more idiotic than "Garv Sauce"?

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, RickOShea said:

Is there anything more idiotic than "Garv Sauce"?

No

[LVTwinsfan]

3 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

Is there anything more idiotic than "Garv Sauce"?

Should be McGarver

[RickOShea]

2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Should be McGarver

Wind him up and he'll talk for hours.

[LVTwinsfan]

Playing too deep

[RickOShea]

2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Playing too deep

Yes, he should be standing on top of the grass.

[Danchat]

11 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

Wish the FO felt the same.

Well, they gave Shoemaker and Happ many chances over Jax and Barnes... at this point I'm fine seeing them flop rather them continue to pitch at AAA while awful veterans soak up the MLB innings.

 

11 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

What is the rotation next year, honestly? Scary thoughts

Off the top of my head... 2 FAs (probably mid-tier), Ober, Maeda?, and then a couple veteran longshots. As for the prospects, Ryan, Winder, and Balazovic are the top guys who should be ready at some point/early in 2022 (I could see Duran and Strotman come up as relievers). If they aren't, the FO needs to be under serious pressure.

Just a reminder, when the Twins entered the 2020 offseason, only Berrios was under contract. Their moves: Qualifying offer to Odorizzi, 2/$20M to Pineda, trade Graterol for Maeda, 1/$7M to Homer Bailey, and 1/$3M to Rich Hill. I suspect they will make similar moves in 2022, minus trading a top pitching prospect for a veteran.

[RpR]

Why is Rooker not back at AAA?

[Danchat]

4 minutes ago, RpR said:

Why is Rooker not back at AAA?

He doesn't have anything to prove there. He needs to sink or swim at the MLB level... and he appears to be sinking.

[Aggies7]

15 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Well, they gave Shoemaker and Happ many chances over Jax and Barnes... at this point I'm fine seeing them flop rather them continue to pitch at AAA while awful veterans soak up the MLB innings.

 

Off the top of my head... 2 FAs (probably mid-tier), Ober, Maeda?, and then a couple veteran longshots. As for the prospects, Ryan, Winder, and Balazovic are the top guys who should be ready at some point/early in 2022 (I could see Duran and Strotman come up as relievers). If they aren't, the FO needs to be under serious pressure.

Just a reminder, when the Twins entered the 2020 offseason, only Berrios was under contract. Their moves: Qualifying offer to Odorizzi, 2/$20M to Pineda, trade Graterol for Maeda, 1/$7M to Homer Bailey, and 1/$3M to Rich Hill. I suspect they will make similar moves in 2022, minus trading a top pitching prospect for a veteran.

Is Pineda back next year?