Han Joelo Verified Member Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 MLBTraderumors Was this the guy some of us were salivating over as a key to any Dozier-Dodger deal a couple years back?
old nurse Verified Member Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 MLBTraderumors Was this the guy some of us were salivating over as a key to any Dozier-Dodger deal a couple years back?Yadier, not Yordan. Yordan is the one with with trash cans ringing in his ears. Yadier is the one with injuries that may have his career going into that can People here salivate over a lot of players. Some are good. Some have issues.. Some have a potential that only few see. Some are has-beens. All in all, a lot of drool
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Yadier, not Yordan. Yordan is the one with with trash cans ringing in his ears. Yadier is the one with injuries that may have his career going into that can People here salivate over a lot of players. Some are good. Some have issues.. Some have a potential that only few see. Some are has-beens. All in all, a lot of drool now it’s Yadier
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 MLBTraderumors Was this the guy some of us were salivating over as a key to any Dozier-Dodger deal a couple years back?I believe Alvarez was the second piece, after De Leon, in the trade agreement rumor that never came to fruition.
bighat Verified Member Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 I believe Alvarez was the second piece, after De Leon, in the trade agreement rumor that never came to fruition.Yep. De Leon was the main piece in that trade. Instead, the Dodgers traded De Leon to the Rays for Forsythe (who later became a Twin). De Leon went on the DL three times in 2017 while in the Rays minor league system. He then tore his UCL before the 2018 season and had Tommy John surgery. He missed all of 2019, and just this offseason he was traded from the Rays to the Reds for cash considerations or a player to be named later.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 Yep. De Leon was the main piece in that trade. Instead, the Dodgers traded De Leon to the Rays for Forsythe (who later became a Twin). De Leon went on the DL three times in 2017 while in the Rays minor league system. He then tore his UCL before the 2018 season and had Tommy John surgery. He missed all of 2019, and just this offseason he was traded from the Rays to the Reds for cash considerations or a player to be named later. wow! I feel for him to be so close and have the wheels come off in spectacular fashion. Hopefully he can get healthy in Cincy. Man am I happy the Twins dodged that bullet!
twins_89 Verified Member Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 It's hard to believe, but Smetlzer+Raley has a real chance of being a better return for Dozier than a De Leon+Alvarez package would have been.
Jimv Provisional Member Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 It's hard to believe, but Smetlzer+Raley has a real chance of being a better return for Dozier than a De Leon+Alvarez package would have been. Yeah, I'd have never predicted that. Maybe Falvine actually knows more than I do!
TFRazor Verified Member Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 It's hard to believe, but Smetlzer+Raley has a real chance of being a better return for Dozier than a De Leon+Alvarez package would have been.And then we turned around and used Raley as part of the Maeda deal. The Dozier trade has turned out to have more of an effect than I honestly thought it would.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 It's hard to believe, but Smetlzer+Raley has a real chance of being a better return for Dozier than a De Leon+Alvarez package would have been.I'm not sure it's that hard to believe -- it really just highlights the volatility of prospects (particularly pitching prospects). The same could be said of basically any trade where a top prospect gets hurt / doesn't work out. For a Twins example, at the time of the Span deal, there were probably quite a few lesser prospects available who would have ultimately represented a "better return" than Alex Meyer.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 Yeah, I'd have never predicted that. Maybe Falvine actually knows more than I do! I don't think it's ever been reported that the Dodgers offered De Leon plus Alvarez and the Twins turned them down. Not that I'm faulting the Twins FO for anything in this sequence of moves, but it seems just as likely that the Dodgers saved us from that deal, rather than any kind of special insight from Falvey and Levine about these particular prospects. (Maybe with an assist from the Rays, who set the price for Forsythe at De Leon alone, which limited how much the Dodgers were willing to offer us for Dozier.)
old nurse Verified Member Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I'm not sure it's that hard to believe -- it really just highlights the volatility of prospects (particularly pitching prospects). The same could be said of basically any trade where a top prospect gets hurt / doesn't work out. For a Twins example, at the time of the Span deal, there were probably quite a few lesser prospects available who would have ultimately represented a "better return" than Alex Meyer.Only Robbie Ray
old nurse Verified Member Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 Alvarez did clear waivers.Rule v eligible if he is not added to the 40 man after this season. Yet another failing top prospect
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