Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 I'd forgotten how much I mute sports announcers......back to music!
Dave The Dastardly Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Finally, something I am professionally equipped to weigh in on! I am NOT AT ALL claiming to be an expert in this field, it's just that I professionally have worked in distilled spirits for a little over 20 years. Top-shelf whiskey is an extremely broad term, and there is no way to specify what someone means when they talk about that.A general guideline for a layman to decide wether or not to add ice (or distilled water- any form of potential dilution) to a dram would be to look at the ABV of the spirit itself. A whiskey sold in the US has a minimum ABV of 40% (80 proof) and adding any form of dilution to a 40% ABV spirit seems unnecessary for most drinkers. A spirit at 40% ABV is 60% water as is and the addition of more water (in the form of ice or otherwise) might tend to highlight some of the more acetone-like qualities in the alcohol itself rather than the sweetness of the distillate or the more herbaceous and spicy notes from the barrel. Don't add ice! Examples of 40% ABV whiskies some might consider top shelf:Basil HaydenRed Breast (most mass produced Irish is 40% for tax purposes) 42-~56%- When a spirit is distilled to a higher ABV, it is often done so to highlight existing spices from either the barrel or the distillate. Whiskies in this category are usually meant to be sipped neat, but have the character and richness to stand up to any form of dilution or modification. A whiskey in this ABV range is more likely to have flavors that can shine through when paired with a bold vermouth in a Manhattan, for example. For many years, 50% ABV was considered the sweet spot for American whiskey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottled_in_bondThe beauty of this range is that it can theoretically be enjoyed in more circumstances than can the 40% expressions, as the end-user can treat it as sort of a whiskey concentrate to be diluted down to where they prefer to drink it. If you happen to be enjoying a bonded whiskey in the near future, pour a couple ounces into your preferred vessel, take a regular ice cube from your freezer and just crack it (not shatter it) with the back of a spoon. add that ice and enjoy in several smaller sips throughout the hour. You will see that you are getting not just more dilution and different (softer) drinking experience as the ice melts, but you will find competing flavors that are always present in the spirit but are willing to shine more brightly at differing levels of dilution. The Early Times blue label bottled in bond is a fantastic example of this. About 50% of your ice cube has dissolved and you are drinking Woodford Reserve, 100% is dissolved and it's like your drinking Jim Beam double oaked. It's incredibly versatile and there's way more subtlety to it than the price would indicate.Probably don't add ice, but you won't look like an ass if you do!Too many examples to list. 57%+ ABV- getting into cask strength distillatesThese expressions of whiskey are usually more expensive and produced in more limited qualities for a few reasons. Cask Strength (or Barrel Proof) implies that after the whiskey has finished aging, no water is added to it before bottling. Not all the whiskies in this range are cask strength, but probably a safe majority of the ones that might be considered top-shelf, are. There is something masturbatory about a distillery releasing a cask-strength spirit in that it is made with the understanding that casual whiskey drinkers aren't really expected to appreciate it fully. these whiskies can really be quite lovely at times while drinking quite warmly but still showcasing some subtlety. For the most part, though, you are going to find very intense and bold flavors with an aggression dominating the tasting experience. That is why this category of whiskies begs to have dilution added. The above example of cracking the spoon with an Early Times BiB becomes even more intense here because by the time your ice has dissolved and offered all of it possible dilution, you are usually still left with a whiskey of >40% ABV. This category, in baseball term, is the high-floor, high-ceiling prospect because a distillery wouldn't produce a cask strength expression of a subpar whiskey, and you are indeed buying whiskey concentrate for the days which you dont want to have the aggressive, intense whiskey drinking experience.Probably add ice, but make sure you try it neat first!Examples can be: Booker's, Wathen's Barrel Proof, Laphroiag 10yr Cask Strength, etc. Usually a cask strength expression is a higher ABV edition of something that already exists. Be prepared to spend. That's about it for ice. I never went into dilution in terms of barrel statements or raw material (malted barley, corn, rye, etc.) because I think I wrote enough words about ice vs ABV. Everybody who drinks whiskey likes to fancy themselves an expert. I will state again, for the record, I have no expertise in whiskey outside of what is required to do my job. If I misinformed above, I apologize. I tried only to give a general guideline because I want more people drinking good whiskey. Cheers! Did I mention cannabis is legal in Oregon and I took the day off? A graduate level course on whiskey? Who says you can't learn anything on TD?
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 any word on Rosario ?? Before I muted the broadcast she said they were just being cautious.
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Kyle would ya pick up the pace, he seems to be getting slower every start ? He seems to think TOO much
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 any word on Rosario ?? Radio said that he still hasn't fully opened up running. Still having some issues with that. Swinging the bat, etc. is fine.
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 2 errors one play, be nice when eddie gets back so marvin can be used at 3rd and 1st more
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Gibby does not help , Puts everyone to SLeep
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Time to get the bullpen going now
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 '...when Gibson is nibbling, the ball game is dribbling away...'
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 The saving grace of Gibson's game is his curve, which starts off inside the zone, then breaks down and glove side out of the zone. Hard to lay off that with 2 strikes.
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 It's so frustrating...Gibson looked great through 3 and now is just nibbling like crazy and has no command. Impossible to rely on
Darius Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 I’ve been a supporter of Gibson’s for a while. I always wanted them to stick with him. I thought he finally turned a corner. I’ve given up on him after that at-bat to Perez. And why the H didn’t they put Perez on and pitch to the inept Allen?
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Well, good thing the pen is rested.
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Nice start Gibby, ehire didnt help it either,
Krabby5 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Garbage inning...horrible pitching..horrible defense. Gibson sooooooo sssslllllllooooowwwww. Must drive his infielders crazy
operation mindcrime Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Trade Gibson at the deadline!
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just awful. More convinced than ever that we need to trade for a starter. Gibson is completely unreliable.
Krabby5 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Trade Gibson at the deadline! Pohlad’s won’t do a thing.
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 I’ve been a supporter of Gibson’s for a while. I always wanted them to stick with him. I thought he finally turned a corner.I’ve given up on him after that at-bat to Perez.And why the H didn’t they put Perez on and pitch to the inept Allen?Thought the same - and he hits allen, tired of Gibby
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 One earned run in four innings......
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Sano fooled the camera and bremer,
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 The camera work on that flyball! haha
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