Article: Twins 2018 Minor League Starting Pitcher Of The Year

[Seth Stohs]

 

Seems like Seth left out Stewart and Mejia (or does he have inside information on them that they are not in the Twins plans going forward). 

Interesting group and more interesting is what the Twins plan for next year with only one spot open at this time.

 

No inside information. Stewart and Mejia likely factor into 2019 as well. I was trying to be brief and missed a couple of obvious candidates.

[glunn]

It sounds like Tyler Wells has great upside. Losing that much weight requires huge discipline, which should serve him well as he unlocks his full potential. I would love to see this kid surpass Kluber and think that's possible if he works hard and stays healthy.

[djvang]

 

<<Gonsalves hasn't shown me anything. Soft slop that might bewilder AAA batters doesn't fool major leaguers. He reminds me of Tommy Milone. If his control isn't perfect or the ump isn't giving him the corners he's going to get clobbered when he has to throw the ball over the plate. I'm discouraged that the Twins are so high on him.>>

 

Tommy Glavine threw slop all the way to the Hall of Fame.

And umps gave him 3 inches on the outside of the plate.

[Tomj14]

 

People worry so much about age and level and age to reach the big leagues... How about we worry more about them just being ready when they get there, or soon after? That's more important. College guys, maybe other than the first few still take 3-4 years to get to the big leagues, and that's OK. Wells is from a D2 school. Taking a little longer to get to the big leagues can be a good thing. He may have been more raw when signed, needed time to develop a 3rd or 4th pitch, etc. If that means he gets to the big leagues at 26, oh well. 

Don't you think people worry about age because 17 or 18  of the top 20 in the American lead leaders in ERA were pitching in the majors by or at age 24? and about the same in the National league. Sure DeGrom and Kluber came up a little later, but playing the odds say if a starting pitcher isn't pitching in the majors by 24, they are not going to be top end rotation guys and as a Twins fans that is all I care about now, they don't seem to have a huge issue filling the back end of the rotation.

[108Stitches]

Don't you think people worry about age because 17 or 18 of the top 20 in the American lead leaders in ERA were pitching in the majors by or at age 24? and about the same in the National league. Sure DeGrom and Kluber came up a little later, but playing the odds say if a starting pitcher isn't pitching in the majors by 24, they are not going to be top end rotation guys and as a Twins fans that is all I care about now, they don't seem to have a huge issue filling the back end of the rotation.

The odds also say that your 15th rounder shouldn’t be performing better than nearly everyone in front of him in the last 3 years. But sometimes things just break your way! Embrace and enjoy

[Seth Stohs]

 

Don't you think people worry about age because 17 or 18  of the top 20 in the American lead leaders in ERA were pitching in the majors by or at age 24? and about the same in the National league. Sure DeGrom and Kluber came up a little later, but playing the odds say if a starting pitcher isn't pitching in the majors by 24, they are not going to be top end rotation guys and as a Twins fans that is all I care about now, they don't seem to have a huge issue filling the back end of the rotation.

 

I just assume most pitches wont' be top end of the rotation guys. There arent very many of them in the game. If you're talking about the Top 20 in a league, well, that means one per team, and we know the Astros have like 4, etc. 

 

Berrios can be an upper level starter, and they had him come up when he was like 21-22. College guys come into pro ball at 21-22, so again, unless theyre like Verlander, Cole, Price, etc., it's' going to take them til 24-25 to get to the big leagues. 

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

<<Gonsalves hasn't shown me anything. Soft slop that might bewilder AAA batters doesn't fool major leaguers. He reminds me of Tommy Milone. If his control isn't perfect or the ump isn't giving him the corners he's going to get clobbered when he has to throw the ball over the plate. I'm discouraged that the Twins are so high on him.>>

 

Tommy Glavine threw slop all the way to the Hall of Fame.

Glavine had great stuff. Gonsalves does not. He's a RP or shuttle guy, imo.

 

The rest of the top five have really interesting stuff. Looking forward to seeing Thorpe next year.

[70charger]

 

Don't you think people worry about age because 17 or 18  of the top 20 in the American lead leaders in ERA were pitching in the majors by or at age 24? and about the same in the National league. Sure DeGrom and Kluber came up a little later, but playing the odds say if a starting pitcher isn't pitching in the majors by 24, they are not going to be top end rotation guys and as a Twins fans that is all I care about now, they don't seem to have a huge issue filling the back end of the rotation.

 

You may be right, but it's also logically possible that you're reversing cause and effect: i.e., it is possible that these amazing pitchers are all in the big leagues early because they're naturally amazing pitchers. Mozart could write symphonies as a kid. Does that mean that all kids should be pressed to write symphonies?

 

I'd love to see a side-by-side of the bell curve's tails. I don't have the bandwidth to do it, but wouldn't it be interesting to see a comparison of the top-level pitchers who are late bloomers versus the top-level pitchers who are prodigies?

[Tomj14]

 

You may be right, but it's also logically possible that you're reversing cause and effect: i.e., it is possible that these amazing pitchers are all in the big leagues early because they're naturally amazing pitchers. Mozart could write symphonies as a kid. Does that mean that all kids should be pressed to write symphonies?

 

I'd love to see a side-by-side of the bell curve's tails. I don't have the bandwidth to do it, but wouldn't it be interesting to see a comparison of the top-level pitchers who are late bloomers versus the top-level pitchers who are prodigies?

I am not saying because somebody is up early they will be a top pitcher. I am saying the best pitchers in baseball are up at a younger age because they are better.

The longer a guy takes in the minors to get to the majors the less likely they are to become a top rotation guy.

[Twodogs]

Clicking on some of those other names like BJ Hermson was kind of interesting?