Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 So if Joe can get into 120-130 games this year, I think he can be a fairly productive player.Especially if Molitor tries to optimize his lineups and keep Mauer away from lefties more regularly. Mauer had a .793 OPS against righties last season.
DJSim22 Provisional Member Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 #2 hitter in the order is reminiscing of the past. He's not that guy anymore. 6th or 7th batter in the lineup is fine too.Agreed he still has tons of value to the team, not 23 mil worth but your stuck paying him anyways so might as well get some value for it. I don't think so, I think his value is getting on base, which makes him a #1 or #2 hitter. At 6th you are still looking for more RBI and power. If he bats 7th what good does it do to get him on base for Castro? Respectfully disagree.
DJSim22 Provisional Member Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 if you are serious about finding out what you have in Vargas, 250-300 innings is not enough to make a decision. The straight up platoon on Mauer is probably going to put more on him than his body can give.Need to rest Mauer more than the platoon splits for a lefty would require.If Joe could only play 125 games in '16, how many fewer in 17 and how many fewer in 18? It'd be nice to have the built in battery mate to take over and spend more of your GM resources acquiring pitching. Does Vargas need more than 250 innings at first base or overall in your opinion? I expect he'd be in the lineup 4-5 times a week minimum.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Does Vargas need more than 250 innings at first base or overall in your opinion? I expect he'd be in the lineup 4-5 times a week minimum. I think Vargas needs more than 500 innings at first to say you really gave him a shot. If Vargas is unsatisfactory then next offseason you need to find an alternative and probably a full time first baseman as Joe is on the downward trend.
DJSim22 Provisional Member Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I think Vargas needs more than 500 innings at first to say you really gave him a shot. If Vargas is unsatisfactory then next offseason you need to find an alternative and probably a full time first baseman as Joe is on the downward trend. That's definitely doable if Mauer DH's a little more and if he has any DL stays. I think most everyone agree's a little less Joe equals a better Joe. Now the million dollar question: What will Molitor do?
akmanak Verified Member Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Another topic blaming Mauer for the Twins having a losing season. Mauer has zero to do with how the Twins decide how to spend money on making this team better. Why woukd you cut him? Do you really think this team would in turn start to pick up a bunch of players simply because you rid yourself of his payroll? Not even close.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Another topic blaming Mauer for the Twins having a losing season. Mauer has zero to do with how the Twins decide how to spend money on making this team better. Why woukd you cut him? Do you really think this team would in turn start to pick up a bunch of players simply because you rid yourself of his payroll? Not even close.I think if you read through all the comments very, very few people agree with that premise and don't think that's truly and solely where the problem is. I think most are concerned with how Joe is utilized and most know that that isn't on Joe. And most realize that if properly utilized, he can contribute to the success of the team.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 I think if you read through all the comments very, very few people agree with that premise and don't think that's truly and solely where the problem is. I think most are concerned with how Joe is utilized and most know that that isn't on Joe. And most realize that if properly utilized, he can contribute to the success of the team.It's also silly to suggest that an extra 23 million couldn't be better spent. The Twins had no choice but to give him that contract, and Joe isn't in a million years obligated or expected to turn it down. But, saying the cheap Pohlads wouldn't spend it anyways is also annoying.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 It's also silly to suggest that an extra 23 million couldn't be better spent.The Twins had no choice but to give him that contract, and Joe isn't in a million years obligated or expected to turn it down. But, saying the cheap Pohlads wouldn't spend it anyways is also annoying.Not what I was implying or saying.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Not what I was implying or saying.Sorry, I was adding to your response to the poster who was saying that.
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