Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 According to FG, wasn't Plouffe 9th amongst 3B in WAR and isn't he 15th so far this year? That's called the wrong direction.
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 According to FG, wasn't Plouffe 9th amongst 3B in WAR and isn't he 15th so far this year? That's called the wrong direction. It is not even May. Sheesh.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I'm not necessarily against a Plouffe extension but I wouldn't fall over myself to get it done. Let Sano play for a season and then reevaluate. That may mean you don't extend Plouffe because he becomes too expensive but it also means you have a better idea of what you need and you're not shuffling players out of position to keep a guy you extended but don't *really* need.
drunksam Verified Member Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It is not even May. Sheesh. How much will that change by Friday? Jeremy Nygaard 1
Halsey Hall Verified Member Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 It is not even May. Sheesh.No, it's not. He'll get worse.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 No, it's not. He'll get worse. Post marked and tagged on April 28 for a revisit on May 28.... (What's your track record for reverse jinxes, Halsey? ) ashbury 1
Halsey Hall Verified Member Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Don't forget to report back on May 28th!
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted April 29, 2015 Author Posted April 29, 2015 I'm not necessarily against a Plouffe extension but I wouldn't fall over myself to get it done. Let Sano play for a season and then reevaluate. That may mean you don't extend Plouffe because he becomes too expensive but it also means you have a better idea of what you need and you're not shuffling players out of position to keep a guy you extended but don't *really* need. The point is that if you do this, you end up signing Plouffe to a market rate deal through his age 35-36 season....
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 The point is that if you do this, you end up signing Plouffe to a market rate deal through his age 35-36 season....Or you just let him go for a comp pick when he hits FA if he's that good. It's likely that the Twins will get the best of Plouffe by the time he hits free agency. If Sano is a third baseman, you can trade Trevor or just let him walk. He's not the type of player who will make or break the team.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy* *assuming he's this good
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy* *assuming he's this goodThe Twins won't lose Plouffe until November of 2017 no matter whether they extend him or not. Plouffe will be entering his age 32 season when they "lose" him. I'm not saying the Twins shouldn't sign Plouffe, I'm saying they shouldn't sign him right now because if Sano pans out at third base, they will no longer need Trevor and can use that money to fill a hole at a position of need. There is simply no reason to make this decision right now. In five months, we'll have a much better idea of what Sano can be and where he will play.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy* *assuming he's this good I only support "getting rid" of Plouffe in a trade where we are getting value back. And we should only go down that road if we are confident Sano sticks at 3B. If waiting a year ends up costing us his age 33 season and $13M....better than making this decision too early and botching it. We went a really, really long time between Koskie and Plouffe at 3B. I don't want to do that again. But you have wonder whether a .722 career OPS, .750 high end is a 3 WAR player in LF. Especially when his defense could be bad. And if we kept him, we might just be pushing a potential 4-5 WAR 3B to the OF or DH, where he will lose a few wins. Edited April 29, 2015 by tobi0040
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