Official: Joe Mauer to DL, Colabello back to Twins

[OldTimeTwinkie]

I would say Colabello has a nice story, even if it's not exactly a rags to riches story. Not sure of Parmelee though. Albers had a good story. Perkins has a great story considering he is borderline elite at his job.

 

 

I think Dick and Bert have a unique brand of homerism that is grating but most broadcast teams are homers I bet. Hard to keep saying positive things when the product has been so underwhelming for so long. So they will continue to fumble around with story lines until the team starts to win.

 

What did Dick and Bert say about Joe?

 

Said Too bad Joe won't be able to play in the all star game:-)

[DocBauer]

You know, when I speak of the Twins having bad luck this season, I'm not talking about cry in my beer, "oh my, we'd be a real contender if it weren't for bad luck, damn the baseball gods!", kind of bad luck.

 

There is the luck of funny bounces and the such. You hope you get more good than bad. But the one "luck" factor every team in every sport hopes for is just general good fortune in regard to overall team health. And there is no doubt other teams have had bad to terrible "luck" this season. And yes, Texas comes first to mind.

 

But my goodness, at one point a few weeks back, the entire Twins 4 man OF was injured at the same time. And if Mauer's injury happened just a few days ago, right when he's hitting the best he has all season, the entire infield sans Dozier would be injured simultaneously. That's just crazy. Lousy timing. And hard to build any sort of lineup consistency as a result.

 

Add to the fact that the Twins have 2 of the top 3-5 prospects in all of baseball, depending on who's list you look at, out for all to most of the season, guys that had a real shot to play in the ML this year, and a small bit of "poor us" wouldn't be out of bounds.

 

Silver lining wise, however, we have had some very pleasant surprises at the ML level. And some good stories. Hopefully Colabello will once again be part of a continuing good story. And despite the loss of our top two prospects thus far, and a few other injuries, there have been some great success stories in the minors this year.

 

If you time Mauer's 14 day DL out, it could mean a healthy, "lucky" second half of the season where we might actually build some consistency finally. Coupled with some warranted milb promotions, and a return to action for Buxton, and hopefully some late season DH action for Sano, we could be for some really nice second half treats to the season.

[beckmt]

Should be able to figure out where Parmelee fits in the next 2 weeks, rest is less certain. Much speedier move my the Twins than over the last few years, that is a good start.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

I like the idea of a Parmelee/Colabello platoon at first. Gardy's been trying to get Parms into the lineup while still DHing Morales and playing Arcia, here's our chance.

 

I wonder if the Twins shouldn't have waited to DL Mauer. Something about the optics of your All Star Ambassador to Minnesota getting injured by swinging a baseball bat. When we prematurely DL'ed Nunez, the end result was Florimon got to start at SS after Santana got hurt.

[stringer bell]

Injury comments: The Twins have had good luck keeping their pitchers healthy FWIW. I think that is probably a function of the way Gardy uses his bullpen, despite what is written on this site. They have lost one pitcher (Pelfrey) and no one else has spent any time on the DL.

 

Disabling Mauer was an easy call. Oblique injuries are stubborn and he will be unable to swing a bat for the full two weeks most likely. The decision for Nuñez was based on the lack of a bench at the time. He was unavailable for a few days and they couldn't go short any longer. It really hurt that Santana went down a bit later because it forced the Twins to use Florimon and recall Polanco, two things they didn't want to do.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Injury comments: The Twins have had good luck keeping their pitchers healthy FWIW. I think that is probably a function of the way Gardy uses his bullpen, despite what is written on this site. They have lost one pitcher (Pelfrey) and no one else has spent any time on the DL.

 

Disabling Mauer was an easy call. Oblique injuries are stubborn and he will be unable to swing a bat for the full two weeks most likely. The decision for Nuñez was based on the lack of a bench at the time. He was unavailable for a few days and they couldn't go short any longer. It really hurt that Santana went down a bit later because it forced the Twins to use Florimon and recall Polanco, two things they didn't want to do.

 

I agree with you on the health of the pitching staff. We joke about the 100 pitch magic number but hey, our guys stay healthy and are worked the right amount. Also, nobody predicted this nice run from Correia.

 

The Nunez situation is an argument for another time but I think you are right about Mauer ending up on the DL sooner or later, so why not just do it now. But swinging a bat… why, Joe, why?

[diehardtwinsfan]

It was more an indictment of how uninspiring their options are, than of the logic of the move. Is anyone actually excited by this new shiny toy?

 

The Astros have promoted 4 legit starters to the majors this year, including two that could be star types.....the Twins have new MLBPers, Santana, Pino, and Tonkin this year. Just isn't exciting at all. (not counting Polanco, since that was an emergency, and he's back in A ball, proving they don't think he's close to ready)

 

Was a general lament, not a specific one.

 

Mike, these guys aren't getting promoted in a vacuum, and I'd think that guys like Carlos Gomez and Delmon Young can provide a reasonable amount of caution when it comes to just promoting guys. It's a pretty big gap between the talent they see in the minors and what exists in the majors. The only other guy on the 40 man who could have fit this need was Vargas, and he's slumping in AA right now. I like him as a prospect and I think he's going to turn into a Kendry Morales type guy in MLB, but it does no bit of good to send a guy struggling in AA to the majors so he can struggle/not play there. Gardy certainly won't play him much (look at Polanco), and in this case, rightfully so given that he has far better options at 1st than what he had a short. I understand wanting to see the kids, but overall, you can lose years of development by just throwing them into the fire. As a fan, I'd must rather see them when they are ready and producing with the team maximizing the value of their service time than to waste it watching them struggle when they need more seasoning like what they did with Hicks.

[Mike Sixel]

Isn't that what I said? It is that no one is ready....that's the disappointing part. I think I said that like 3 times in this thread.

[Mr. Brooks]

While I can agree with the "you have to wait until they are ready" premise on promoting prospects, I think some times you have to be aggressive, and can't always wait until you are 100% sure they are ready.

 

I doubt Baltimore was 100% sure that Machado was ready to be called up at such a young age.

I doubt that Miami was 100% sure that Fernandez was ready to be called up.

 

The same could be said for a bunch of other prospects.

 

I disagree with the crowd that says, "don't call them up until they are ready to stick".

These guys have 3 options for a reason.

Now, with Hicks I think it might have hurt him, but in that case I think the Twins waited far too long to send him back down. But to me there is nothing wrong with promoting a guy for a month, then send him back if he's not ready.

Remember, Mike Trout came up for a few weeks the year before his breakout rookie season, and struggled pretty badly. Clearly it didn't hurt his long term development.

[ashbury]

maybe Colabello hits and generates some trade interest.

 

Put yourself in the shoes of the other team's fans. How thrilled would you be to get Colabello at the cost of your team's equivalent to Danny Santana?

 

And if the value Cola fetches is more like the other team's equivalent to Levi Michael (or Evan Bigley), how thrilled will you be for us? Just a blip in the big scheme of things. You don't invest major league at bats in the hope of such an outcome; you do it because you need him to fill a hole.

[ashbury]

Mike Berardino ‏@MikeBerardino 2h

 

• Joe Mauer said he sneezed while he was sleeping last night and his right oblique "felt like the time I did it."
  

 

Oh boy. All of a sudden the 15-day list doesn't sound sufficient...

[diehardtwinsfan]

Isn't that what I said? It is that no one is ready....that's the disappointing part. I think I said that like 3 times in this thread.

 

Then I misunderstood you... My apologies.

[Mike Sixel]

While I can agree with the "you have to wait until they are ready" premise on promoting prospects, I think some times you have to be aggressive, and can't always wait until you are 100% sure they are ready.

 

I doubt Baltimore was 100% sure that Machado was ready to be called up at such a young age.

I doubt that Miami was 100% sure that Fernandez was ready to be called up.

 

The same could be said for a bunch of other prospects.

 

I disagree with the crowd that says, "don't call them up until they are ready to stick".

These guys have 3 options for a reason.

Now, with Hicks I think it might have hurt him, but in that case I think the Twins waited far too long to send him back down. But to me there is nothing wrong with promoting a guy for a month, then send him back if he's not ready.

Remember, Mike Trout came up for a few weeks the year before his breakout rookie season, and struggled pretty badly. Clearly it didn't hurt his long term development.

 

this, is, when I say ready, I mean close to ready, but up for the next challenge

[Guest USAFChief]

Oh boy. All of a sudden the 15-day list doesn't sound sufficient...

I sorta feel like 15 days is pretty much always optomistic for an oblique strain. Those things tend to linger.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Oh boy. All of a sudden the 15-day list doesn't sound sufficient...

 

Good point. We should petition for a nose amputation now instead of waiting.