Brad Swanson Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php/2896-5-Players-the-Twins-gave-up-on-waaaaaaay-too-early
snepp Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 This article > Luis Rivas in a knife fight > Jeff Gray Awesome stuff.
Paul Pleiss Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 I can't wait to find out what Bill Smith does after he's out of the organization. Wait... even after the Twins gave up on him, they didn't really give up on him. dang. Well, I guess we just keep reading Brad's hillarious writing.
Joe A. Preusser Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 I admit to swallowing hook, line, sinker. I read the title, saw Torii's pic, and blasted through the link ready to shout out how we offered him 75 mil. Well done, and funny article.
twinsfan34 Provisional Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 Loved the article. And to Joe's point on Torii. Yes, though I thought it was 3 years for $15M and he got 5 for $75M? I could be totally mistaken...
twinsfan34 Provisional Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 Joe...I'm sorry I questioned you...it seems we offered him $15/yr for 5 years they offered him $18M/yr for 5 years. Man a poor investment for Torii there!! California taxes and cost of living. I guess maybe as a player it's to 'save face' as the gross number gets tossed around, not the net number.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 Joe...I'm sorry I questioned you...it seems we offered him $15/yr for 5 years they offered him $18M/yr for 5 years. Not to detract from this delightful, fact-based article, but I am pretty sure the Twins offer to Torii was only 3/45. Like the Johan offer at the time (4/80), the Twins were competitive in AAV but wanted a significant "hometown discount" in terms of years.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 The Hoey bit is brilliant. Well done!
70charger Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 Plus, as an added bonus, Gray will create a unified sense of scorn as he explains the difference between libel and slander for the 500th time. ... If you are a law student, I deeply apologize for this slander. Ha! Make it 501.
Joe A. Preusser Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 My recollection is that we offered 75/5 and he took 90/6. Just 1 more year with same AAV.
snepp Verified Member Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 My recollection is that we offered 75/5 and he took 90/6. Just 1 more year with same AAV. He did have multiple offers in the 5/75 neighborhood (Royals, White Sox, Rangers), but not from the Twins, every report I ever read had them at the 3/45.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 The team was in a tough position at that point. Santana and Hunter were close to leaving, Morneau and Mauer were due contracts in the next few years. I'm not really a fan of how it all went down but giving Hunter the money he got from the Angels would have been a massive risk.
Joe A. Preusser Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 He did have multiple offers in the 5/75 neighborhood (Royals, White Sox, Rangers), but not from the Twins, every report I ever read had them at the 3/45. It was quite a while ago, I could easily be wrong.
twinsfaninsaudi Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Nope!Ok, so I want to be clear here. If I tell people that the guy the Twins traded JJ Hardy for (who the Twins traded Carlos Gomez for) is now a 9th grade math teacher in New Jersey, I'm telling the truth? And I'm not making a fool of myself? thanks.
kab21 Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 He did have multiple offers in the 5/75 neighborhood (Royals, White Sox, Rangers), but not from the Twins, every report I ever read had them at the 3/45. I'm not even sure the Twins made an offer in the offseason. I also remember 3/45 but I think it was made during the season or in spring training. Basically the Twins had to make an offer to show that they tried but they didn't really make a serious offer. Now he's turning 39 in July and he's still going.
70charger Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Just in case anyone needs some decoration for their bedroom wall: http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Jeff-Gray-Pitcher-for-the-Minnesota-Twins-Posters_i9484746_.htm?AID=96280778&ProductTarget=53105862943 Check out all of the framing options!
ashbury Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Ok, so I want to be clear here. If I tell people that the guy the Twins traded JJ Hardy for (who the Twins traded Carlos Gomez for) is now a 9th grade math teacher in New Jersey, I'm telling the truth? And I'm not making a fool of myself? thanks. I think it's a good idea to obtain a second source for any scoops Brad reports here.
snepp Verified Member Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 Just in case anyone needs some decoration for their bedroom wall: http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Jeff-Gray-Pitcher-for-the-Minnesota-Twins-Posters_i9484746_.htm?AID=96280778&ProductTarget=53105862943 Check out all of the framing options! Sold! And then I'll hang a framed ">" sign next to it.
Brad Swanson Verified Member Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 I think it's a good idea to obtain a second source for any scoops Brad reports here. Honestly, you might want to get a third too.
a-wan Verified Member Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 I wonder if BJ Garbe went back to school for optometry?
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