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Winder will be needed. Keep him ready in AAA.
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One Prospect That Can Fill the Royce Lewis Void
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins seem to be doing a better job of identifying and developing talent. Pick 90s rarely make the majors. Only 2 signed from that slot have more than 1 career WAR. Luis Gonzalez (51.6) and Sean Rodriguez (9.0). Cal Raleigh of the Mariners will be the 3rd. It isn’t much different with players picked 89 and 91. Steer is almost certain to be a major leaguer? It isn’t just Speer, Miranda was picked 74th and looks to be a capable major league starter. Speer and Miranda should give us confidence that the Twins can afford trade of prospects at the deadline. If they have a system that is among the better at identifying and developing talent than we can expect them to refill that pipeline from within.- 30 replies
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Fantastic outing from Smeltzer. Big hit from Correa. Pagán has regressed to the pitcher he was in San Diego. Command problems either lead to walk or fat pitches and hard contact. Early in the season he had a very high LOB rate that isn’t a skill. Now that it is around league average we see the pitcher San Diego tried to include in every deal. Twins ERA in the 8th inning is 5.38. That is on the Falvey. This shouldn’t be a surprise.
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In season it is so easy to be reactionary to the small sample of relievers. Beyond strike out and walk rates it is hard to project forward. WPA is not a stat that projects forward. xFIP relies on strike out and walk rates. Duran stands out with an xFIP near 2. They really need another arm to go with Duran. The best of the rest are in the low to mid 3s including Pagán, Jax and Duffey. Pagán and Duffey both have HR/FB rates well above career norms. That should regress. However they both have a history of giving up hard contact and a home run rate greater than league average so their xFIPs might be a little too promising. They might have someone in the roster that can join those three. Many of their relievers have a very small number of innings that no current data is helpful. Maybe Moran or Megill fits in that group. I would be shocked if Thornburg belonged with that group in the 3s. The last time he had an xFIP in that range was 2016.
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Which? They are allowed to move any of them. They need to move whatever it takes to acquire the best starting pitcher moved at the deadline as well as a Rogers caliber reliever.
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Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to Abruptly Leave Twins
jorgenswest replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to Abruptly Leave Twins
jorgenswest replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to Abruptly Leave Twins
jorgenswest replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I can respect Wes wanted a different job. I have changed jobs. There was no dirty laundry. I don’t think we should expect there was dirty laundry. Unfortunately when no dirty laundry is found people will start making stuff up. I can’t respect leaving in the middle of a big project… in this case a major league season. -
Nice game. Pagán came up big. If they can add someone at the top of the pen he would be an asset in inning 6-7. Duffey pitched well. No hard contact. Ground balls. Contreras took away a hit that had a .970 expected batting average. He will be useful the next few years while he is on options. In that time he may grow into a fourth OF role.
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I hope they are able to acquire at least one reliever of the caliber of Rogers which is far better than decent. They need a few decent relievers also.
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Thornburg is almost 34 years old. He has pitched 64 major league innings to an ERA of 5.34 since 2016. Baldelli used his best options yesterday.
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As we evaluate the Paddack/Rogers deal should we consider the prospect cost of replacing Rogers to that evaluation? If they end up needing to trade a good prospect or two in order to get a few months of a Rogers level reliever is it still a deal you like?
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Grading Falvey's Drafts Mid 2022
jorgenswest commented on bean5302's blog entry in Shallow Thoughts - bean5302
I would think critical to any analysis would be a comparison to other teams as well as a comparison to the performance of players previously picked in that slot. I would also wonder if some teams are more successful with picks after round 2 and that it might be due to their skill in identifying and developing talent rather than random as you suggest. Those factors seem so much important than an MLB ranking. Is there any evidence that MLB rankings have been a reliable predictor of future performance? As for Jeffers… he was picked in the middle of the second round and has more WAR than any other player picked in that round. Can I assume that every other team in that round would receive a lower grade for their pick in round 2? -
This is on Pagán who wasn’t good enough last night and pitched like his peripherals foreshadowed he would pitch. Ultimately Pagán can shake off any pitch and it looks like he shook off the 3-1 pitch. Pagán wasn’t good enough in 2020 for the late innings in 2020. He wasn’t good enough in 2021. His ERA looked good this year due to a very high LOB rate. That isn’t a skill. His FIP is 5.56 for this season. I expect he is better than that but not good enough to be part of a playoff bullpen. I guess this is on Falvey who traded the teams best reliever and now has to add to the cost of that trade by sending prospects to a team to try to replace the reliever they lost. A left handed reliever that would fit perfectly on this team. Whoever we evaluate this trade we need to add the loss of any prospects sent to try to fix this gaping hole. As Chief send… No team truly serious about contending would make this deal.
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I value 8 innings. Giving up one run on a sac fly with a 9-0 lead does not concern me at all. The last thing they need with a lead is walks. No walks yesterday, Gray’s 7 innings in a close game was probably better. Others commented on the atom balls. Average exit velocity for the game of 87.2 is below league average. There are probably a few hard hit outs in every game but overall he was not hit hard last night.
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It may have been the best start from a Twins pitcher this year. I guess maybe Ryan’s or Gray’s 7 inning start against Detroit might be better. Smeltzer also very had a good 7 inning against Kansas City.
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Were the Twins Wrong About Ryan Jeffers?
jorgenswest replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
According to Fangraphs the Twins defense at catcher ranks 8th in baseball. They are very good at framing the ball and that has saved runs. Jeffers has been one of the best receivers in baseball. They could rank better but the stolen base numbers have cost them two runs over 65 games this year. -
He will be back up soon enough. I thought he needed a long stretch in AAA to get his swing back from before the wrist injuries. I believe I said two months. Today is one month. I am probably swayed by the small sample of that month but I would bring him up when the number of pitchers is restricted to a maximum of 13. I believe that is the end of this week.
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Were the Twins Wrong About Ryan Jeffers?
jorgenswest replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The preparation to play catcher is more intense than any other position. You need to the game plan, the opposing hitters and your own ever changing staff (29 pitchers so far?). The other parts of the game are going to take time to develop. -
Were the Twins Wrong About Ryan Jeffers?
jorgenswest replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As for the pick no one picked in the 2018 second round has more WAR than Jeffers. Only 7 of the 35 have reached the majors. One of the catchers picked after him, Will Banfield, is hitting .208 in A+. Banfield was given an over slot 1.8 million compared to Jeffers’ 800K. Josh Breaux (over slot 1.5M) his hitting .224 in AA. It seems like the Twins made a very good pick with their reach. It is really hard to find and develop a catcher. I would be patient with his bat. If the Twins value throwing out runners more they can change his positioning away from one that is designed to frame the plate. -
Twins 6, Rays 5: Arraez Slam Leads Twins over Rays
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I certainly don’t need to know. I would prefer if the opposing teams don’t know.- 76 replies
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The Potential Cost of Acquiring Pitching in Trades
jorgenswest replied to Sherry Cerny's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I look at that same list and appreciate the depth. I don’t think an Archer or Bundy type addition will be as necessary. I also believe an addition at the top like Montas would be really improve that group.- 41 replies
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Can Nick Gordon Carve Out a Niche Role on the Twins?
jorgenswest replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
He has carved out a role and is worthy of a roster spot. As for upgrade I don’t think they should aim to upgrade a bench spot with another bench player. I think you upgrade to someone who is going to knock several players down a notch and maybe it is Gordon that is left without a spot.

