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  1. KirbyDome89
    You're distorting timelines. Sands, Strotman, or Balazovic were in the same position to begin this season as guys like Varland or Henriquez will be in next year. Missing 4 months and throwing only 56 innings is a successful season for Ober? Winder's 4.70 ERA and multiple IL stints with the same shoulder issue was solid? SWR making a single start, or Henriquez's 11 innings were strong debuts? We're so detached from reality here.
  2. KirbyDome89
    No, I opted not to respond because you're just listing names. It "seemed like the pipeline was on the brink of lots of success," last offseason too, hence my point about these posts evoking deja vu. Clip Canterino, Strotman, and Sands. Copy & paste Festa, Henriquez, Varland. Double dip on Balazovic. Sprinkle in some Dobnak despite the fact he hasn't been effective for 3 years. Voila.
  3. KirbyDome89
    Odd that you'd mention them amongst the emerging/legit group, but ok. I very clearly acknowledged the season both Jax and Duran had so credit was given where it was due. I also pointed out the Twins failed to bring up a single arm that stuck over the course of the entire season, a point which you continue to ignore. I was wondering when your classic appeal to the FO's authority would show up; it didn't take too long this time.
  4. KirbyDome89
    Me neither, but you don't get to trade for a finished product and claim development; that's all. No, they haven't "demonstrated they're likely to be part of the future," unless you simply mean they'll get a shot. You're tossing out Ronny Henriquez and Trevor Megill as examples of players emerging or developing, but sure, I'm the one being unreasonable. Reality is a tough pill to swallow I guess....
  5. KirbyDome89
    I'm totally uninterested in minor league movement and reshuffling prospect rankings in the system. Did they contribute at the major league level, and if so, how much? Ryan wasn't a prospect. People need to stop acting like the Twins didn't trade for a MLB ready starter and plug him into the rotation. Great trade, not a product of the Twins system. This. Team. Did. Not. Develop. Joe. Ryan. The only thing Ober established is that his injury issues are always going to be a concern. He threw a whopping 56 innings and missed 4 months. Jax and Duran each ended up having pretty nice (great in the case of Duran) seasons. Winder with his 4.70 ERA and inability generate Ks looked legit? He's also been on the IL 3 times in the last year with shoulder issues. Ditto for Varland, he started 5 games, he's a total question mark going into next year. Megill? He was flat out unusable at times. Henriquez was battered as a starter in AAA, he threw 11 innings for the Twins, and now the hope is he has some utility in the bullpen. You're reaching so far on some of this. The Twins didn't have a single young pitcher graduate and hold onto a spot on the major league staff. Not one. We saw Chi Chi Gonzalez making starts near mid season, and Aaron Sanchez making starts in August & September when this club was trying to hold on atop the division. They also spent the trade deadline trying to plug pitching holes; that doesn't happen if the Twins had this supposed wealth of players establishing themselves.
  6. KirbyDome89
    Jim Pohlad has never been a hands on owner. Hell, it took a Total System Failure in 2016 to move on from a miserable TR reunion. He sets the payroll and that's it. If you want to bitch about how much this team is spending relative to revenue, go for it (and you might be right) but the FO controls every decision regarding personnel on and off the field.
  7. KirbyDome89
    This entire post could be a copy paste from the same time last year. 2022 was supposedly the development year, and very little of that happened, yet here we are, talking about "next year," and "potential."
  8. KirbyDome89
    Having a process is not the same as having a good process. No, Bailey Ober, Louie Varland, and David Festa have not broken through.
  9. KirbyDome89
    The same thing was said about Colome last year when his potential return was being floated about. You're right, move on, the payoff is minimal. He can be another team's reclamation project and their fans can be beaten over the head with redemption arc write ups that laud his "stuff."
  10. KirbyDome89
    The fact that we're using Gordon as a comp at all is pretty damning no?
  11. KirbyDome89
    Chefs kiss.
  12. KirbyDome89
    We're trying so hard to pin blame anywhere other than where it most obviously belongs. Team doctors operate the same as general physicians or specialists you and I see. To the best of their abilities they'll provide a diagnosis, recommend treatment options, and/or a referral. What anyone chooses to do with that information is up to them, i.e. the team doctors can tell the player and organization what they believe the issue is, they can provide multiple treatment routes, and they can be open and honest about which they recommend and why, but ultimately, the decision about playing time and the route moving forward is up to the player and those in charge. If Tyler Mahle for example, says he feels alright, and wants to pitch, and the FO is ok with taking that risk, he's going to pitch. Doctors are conservative out of necessity. If we're blaming the team medical staff for the injury issues, we're talking about an all time awful group of physicians, like lose your license to practice type of bad.
  13. KirbyDome89
    I really wish I had that kind of optimistic outlook, but if/when that day comes I certainly will enjoy following this team more than the last few years.
  14. KirbyDome89
    I'll take that top 5-7 staff bet right now I think trading arms because you can't get your AA or AAA arms to stick in the majors is scary, not successful. That rotation is the same one that torpedoed this year, except we've replaced Balazovic with SWR. 2 guys post TJ, one of whom won't be able to pitch for half the year, 3 guys with major injury concerns, Ryan, Gray, and the "pipeline." It feels like shuffling chairs on the deck of a sinking ship ya know?
  15. KirbyDome89
    I get what you're saying, and I concur, this season isn't just on the pipeline. Pagan and other bullpen cast offs, Bundy, Archer, Sanchez, ect all did their damage. We disagree on the "when they were," aspect of the utilization. If you have guys that are "more than effective," you're not trotting Archer out to melt down in 3-4 innings and burn out an already overmatched pen, you're not sticking with Bundy and his 5+ ERA at the end of July, and you're not trading for a SP in an attempt to stabilize a rotation that's in a tailspin. All of these things don't happen if the pipeline can be utilized as effectively as you've made it seem. One of them? Sure, maybe even two if we want to say Mahle was front end insurance, but in my mind it makes no sense to bemoan back end performance when there wasn't a single pipeline arm that could successfully fill either spot.
  16. KirbyDome89
    Preseason projections from 6 months ago, prior to the Twins having an 11 game cushion, and the division being an absolute dumpster fire, are irrelevant. It was in the post game thread last night, the Twins are 46-61 since May 24th. That's 90+ loss baseball for 4 months... A shakeup of mid to low level staffers is just scapegoating.
  17. KirbyDome89
    On the cusp of what? If you're trading prospect arms, because you're unable to graduate others is that really a success?
  18. KirbyDome89
    This needs to be pinned in every discussion where preseason projections are brought up.
  19. KirbyDome89
    I guess I don't see the distinction between "depth," and "banking on X pitcher to wrestle away innings." We know, whether it's injury or ineffectiveness, nobody makes it through a season with 5-6 starters. In the case of Bundy and Archer it was the latter, yet they were/are rotation stalwarts because there wasn't a single pipeline arm that could usurp them. To me, that's where introducing the term failure becomes appropriate.
  20. KirbyDome89
    Winder and Ober combined for roughly 100 IPs this year. Depending on how you want to cut it, that's somewhere between 12-15% of the starter innings. Isn't it just as easy to spin it the other way and say their lack of contribution is caused this team to sink? I'm not saying it was a sound strategy, but clearly the FO was banking on these two and others to step in and wrestle away innings from guys like Bundy or Archer.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Winder has a 5.19 FIP and has been shut down twice this season with a shoulder issue. That's a success?
  22. KirbyDome89
    What FA pitchers are turning down larger offers from the Twins to pitch elsewhere? Honestly, can you name a single instance where that has happened? Why perpetuate such an obviously false narrative?
  23. KirbyDome89
    "Those who constantly advocate for these types of assertive showings from the front office now sound rather toothless when criticizing them in hindsight. While we can all see the overall results have been unsatisfactory – albeit hardly disastrous for a reigning last-place team – this front office was audacious in shaking things up. Isn't that what we want?" The FO put the team, and themselves, in a horrible spot during the first half with injured starters, short outings, failed prospect development, and the worst bullpen in the league. Framing the failed deadline moves as "isn't this what we want?" is totally disingenuous. But hey, they tried, so no robust criticism to be found there... Also, it's weird that last year has now become the measuring stick.
  24. KirbyDome89
    Can we talk about how bad Jorge Lopez has been? Since coming over he has literally been the same guy Baltimore gave up on as a starter, except now he's imploding from the pen. From an opposing fan perspective the hissy fits on the mound have to be hilarious, from a Twins fan perspective they're also hilarious, but in a sad kind of way. Are we still happy/comfortable with him being locked into a pen spot next year? Yeesh....
  25. KirbyDome89
    The Twins had a share of 1st place just 2 weeks ago. Cleveland had lost 5 straight, and the Sox continued to be the Sox. Broken clocks being right twice a day yada yada, I believe the primary argument for the Twins hanging on was the general weakness of the division. I don't think that's has changed. The Twins have played like a 70 win team rather than an 80 win one the last few weeks and it has likely closed the door on them, but I don't recall that being prognosticated. If the over/under on Ws in 7 games against Cleveland in September was set at 1.5 were you taking the under in June, July, or even August?
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