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MODERATOR NOTE: Back to topic, please. This thread is about the possibilities of Bellinger, not Boras.

I did that once, too

Why not give Bauer the same courtesy? Apples and oranges. And a lot of people didn’t want Correa, either, and several here who still don’t. But it’s worth mentioning that Bauer still has three impending suits to settle. If they go the same as the first, a team might be willing to give him that chance. But until those cases are settled, no owner wants that risk. When and how those other cases go might determine whether or not he gets signed anywhere, but likely won’t until they are settled, Also, keep in mind that MLB did its own investigation, separate from governmental courts, lawyers, and public opinion. They found that Bauer violated their policy on domestic abuse. Bauer appealed but wasn’t able to negate the suspension, only reduce it. I don’t know what evidence MLB had or what their standard is, but it’s not nothing that they gave him the suspension they did and it’s not nothing the suspension was still a year long after appeal, the longest given for this type of case. Do owners have access to the evidence and findings in these cases? Sometimes decisions aren’t just about the skill of the player and perhaps owners are leery about the whole package. But if Francona, one of the most respected men in baseball, doesn’t want him on his team during a playoff run because he’s a ruiner of the clubhouse, and this prior to any of these public accusations, that should and does speak volumes. You might be able to tame a tiger, but it’s still a tiger and should be treated as such. (Siegfried and Roy learned that the hard way.) From all accounts I’ve read, the Twins have a great clubhouse. The camaraderie of the players is apparent. I don’t want to disrupt that. It’s an intangible that, imo, does make a difference. Oil and water don’t mix. On top of that, how good of a pitcher is he really anymore? Most are remembering a couple of good season out of many and wanting the pitcher he once was. I don’t think he’s all that anymore, and not good enough to be worth the baggage he brings. He’s 33, and while he might be able to give some decent innings, I don’t think he’s the level of pitcher anymore that you claim to want. Lopez is certainly better and I think Ober is, too, and Ryan probably is better at this point, too, maybe, with a good year. So you are taking a risk on a guy who maybe would be your third or fourth best. I think you might be basing your opinions that Bauer would be better on past laurels that aren’t current. I’d rather the Twins spend prospect capital to get the SP you seek. That pitcher, in ability, is no longer Bauer.

A majority of the Dodgers players voted they did not want him back after his suspension was over, one of the reasons the Dodgers cut bait. It’s been a common theme throughout his career with many of his teammates from college throughout his MLB career. I think he would be a very bad clubhouse fit given the reports of the camaraderie in our current clubhouse. I think Bauer would be a huge distraction. If he is such a bargain signing, why hasn’t he been signed yet?

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My Mom really likes Starz. It's seems many in the area have an infinity to the Pizza Pub ... I've been neither place, so I can't really say for certain. Oou, Skip One ... yep ... great place. Salty Papa's is good, as you mentioned, but I still prefer the Shrimp Shack :) I'll be down for three weeks in March.

I’m not, yet. If things go well this season I will be in September 🙂 If not, I reserve the right to say I was right 😜🤣 Thanks for a very reasoned post!

You’re right. For some reason I was thinking he only pitched a few after the trade and that was it.

Speculation is fun. There is always a basis for ‘I can see this being the case.’ But keeping Gordon regardless was always going to cause other issues. If he were a rightie, there likely would have been less issues, but there always was a log jam there, especially since he was out of options. The timing of events lends to the speculation, but all the reports I’d read that Gordon was an exceptional clubhouse personality and very well liked, even through the playoffs. I think his time just ran out and it was a case of get something or nothing. I’m skeptical there was more to it, but who knows. Ah to be a fly on the wall.

Again, no one is necessarily suggesting we should have held onto Gray. I’m not comparing what we lost from last year to Gray’s potential production this year. All I and others are saying is we are skeptical that the rotation will be this year where it was at last year, because of the production and health we got from last year’s rotation. I’m just not as hopeful without an upgraded addition. As I said, I think the FO is rolling the dice it will be. I’m neither sold or unsold. Just a bit skeptical. But good for you for your optimism.

Oh. And here I was about to rename this ‘Mike’s Fangraphs thread’ I’m kidding, of course. Thanks for getting this thread started.

Agree, but not sure why you even threw Mahle in there. He wasn’t part of the rotation last year at all, not even in the plans. But our rotation last year produced and was relatively healthy. You just can’t count on the health part let alone the production part. And the FO hasn’t replaced the production we lost with anyone and seems to be rolling the dice on what we have really stepping up and forward. Unless they come through with a Lopez-like trade, we’ve certainly taken a step back … unless their bet on hope transpires with lots of steps forward by the current group. Something you can’t count on.

Then who replaces Bailey Ober’s production from last year? Maybe Paddock? I think the point is we haven’t (yet) equaled what we lost. Part of what made the rotation great last year was production and relative health. I don’t think we have the pieces yet that is comparable? It’s all a crap shoot and I think the FO is rolling the dice thinking they already have a good bet. I’m not sold. I’m not ‘unsold’, either.

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That could be fun! You could make a deal and charge a bunch of spring break college students for a ride to the Keys.

4 hrs … in normal or light traffic. Just know that it will take longer than you think. But going mid-week is your best bet. The last time I had a rental car in Florida, a warning light went on so I drove back to th rental place and they gave me a souped up Dodge Charger. That was fun

The Island Cow is no more. They had a fire and the property was razed. (I think that happened pre-Ian.) The owners plan to rebuild. Read something about it last summer.

You are going to drive all the way to Key West and back in one day? Good luck!

They changed the store around a little so the juice station isn’t in the back. And I think they have an employee doling out the juice instead of being self serve. But don’t miss out and get a chocolate-key lime twist cone or cup

I was there after New Years, so if they were shut down that’s very recent

I’d say the Polo trade was significant given he’s been with the org for so long and a fan favorite. I think it was inevitable, but still significant

You should know, beach access will require a ton of patience as there is construction, construction and more construction going on ... and that time of year, yeah. And they are still working on the causeway access to Sanibel and Captiva. When I was there over Christmas, we avoided heading over on weekdays because of the road there, and all the construction folks working over there. I know people who still don't have access to their homes both on Ft. Myers Beach and on Sanibel. But ... the beaches are good to go. The traffic to get there will require planning and patience. And when on Sanibel, it's a must to plan a trip in/through the Ding-Darling Refuge. Note that the Stillwater Grille is closed. (At least it was when I was there over Christmas.) Downtown Ft. Myers is fantastic ... bars, restaurants ... go, enjoy, have fun. I go down to Ft Myers often, and how the downtown has transformed over the years is incredible. As I said, go, enjoy, have fun. For Southern food, Fancy's is good; but I think the Farmers Market Restaurant is better. Just my opinion. And for shrimp? I love the Shrimp Shack. It's very close to the stadium on Metro Pkwy on the other side of Daniels. If you like Thai food, the Bangkok Thai Restaurant on Cleveland Ave is very good. Everyone has their 'go to' places, but mine are these three. If you like interesting, weird history, Koreshan State Park on Hwy 41 in Estero is worth a visit to see and learn about the Koreshan commune that was there. I don't know how the buildings fared after Ian, so you might want to check before heading there.

Being out of state, it makes no difference. But if I were in state, I'd be looking for work-arounds not allowed to be mentioned here. I mean, how can you present a product, and not present it at the same time? This is how. Go Twins.

You didn't do anything incorrectly. But when we see multiple posts going up on the same topic, we do our best to consolidate. And since this was a done deal, no longer a rumor, I opted to direct traffic to the other forums. Also, this one didn't have any posts in when while the others did, so it made the decision easier.

If you get to a green patch ... I'd stop licking ...