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Here is what I believe is the applicable rule. Good luck sorting out what the umps say what would have happened since the check swing wasn't initially questioned and the play naturally stopped. 8.02 Appeal of Umpire Decisions (a) Any umpire’s decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to, whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions. Rule 8.02(a) Comment: Players leaving their position in the field or on base, or managers or coaches leaving the bench or coaches box, to argue on BALLS AND STRIKES will not be permitted. They should be warned if they start for the plate to protest the call. If they continue, they will be ejected from the game. (b) If there is reasonable doubt that any umpire’s decision may be in conflict with the rules, the manager may appeal the decision and ask that a correct ruling be made. Such appeal shall be made only to the umpire who made the protested decision. (c) If a decision is appealed, the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final deci- sion. No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire’s decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it. If the umpires consult after a play and change a call that had been made, then they have the authority to take all steps that they may deem necessary, in their discretion, to eliminate the results and consequences of the earlier call that they are reversing, including placing runners where they think those runners would have been after the play, had the ultimate call been made as the initial call, disregarding interference or obstruction that may have occurred on the play; failures of runners to tag up based upon the initial call on the field; runners passing other runners or missing bases; etc., all in the discretion of the umpires. No player, manager or coach shall be permitted to argue the exercise of the umpires’ discretion in resolving the play and any person so arguing shall be subject to ejection. Notwithstanding the foregoing, correction of a missed ball-strike count shall not be permitted after a pitch is thrown to a subsequent batter, or in the case of the final bat- ter of an inning or game, after all infielders of the defensive team leave fair territory. Rule 8.02(c) Comment: A manager is permitted to ask the umpires for an explanation of the play and how the umpires have exercised their discretion to eliminate the results and con- sequences of the earlier call that the umpires are reversing. Once the umpires explain the result of the play, however, no one is permitted to argue that the umpires should have exercised their discretion in a different manner. The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for information about a half swing. Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. Should the base umpire call the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail. Appeals on a half swing must be made before the next pitch, or any play or attempted play. If the half swing occurs during a play which ends a half-inning, the appeal must be made before all infielders of the defensive team leave fair territory. Baserunners must be alert to the possibility that the base umpire on appeal from the plate umpire may reverse the call of a ball to the call of a strike, in which event the runner is in jeopardy of being out by the catcher’s throw. Also, a catcher must be alert in a base stealing situation if a ball call is reversed to a strike by the base umpire upon appeal from the plate umpire. The ball is in play on appeal on a half swing. On a half swing, if the manager comes out to argue with first or third base umpire and if after being warned he persists in arguing, he can be ejected as he is now arguing over a called ball or strike.
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Breaking Down the Remaining Twins Schedule
theBOMisthebomb replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Minnesota sports fan defensive reaction has my gut telling me the Guardians will overtake the Twins and win the division. The heck with logic, I need to protect myself. -
I miss the old Saints days at Midway. Times moves on, so I try to enjoy the AAA Saints at CHS Field while not glamorizing the past too much. Good for Strawberry, it seems his Saints experience was a pivot time in his life. I'm going to a Saints game on Friday, I'm excited to see the Strawberry jersey in its retirement glory.
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Joe Mauer and the Warm Comfort of Familiarity
theBOMisthebomb replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I watched the guy play baseball starting in high school so I get what you are saying. When/if St. Paul's Joe Mauer gets inducted into baseball's Hall of Fame I plan to attend in person. -
Remembering the Big Sexy Game
theBOMisthebomb replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yes, nice memories. I was at that game and remember being slightly amazed how Colon was accomplishing the complete game feat. I wasn't a big fan of his before his time with the Twins, those few months he played here won me over. Although I still contend the Cy Young that Colon earned stopped Johan Santana from having a puncher's chance at the Hall of Fame.- 8 replies
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That's easy enough to say and difficult to counteract your rise colored glasses statement. However, I will try... Correa and Buxton can't really be this awful at the plate. I believe the starting pitching is legitimate and we will not see further regression. If they win the AL Central they get three playoff games at home in the wild card round and this pitching should play to good results in the playoff environment. I use the Walmart vision center in Apple Valley for my glasses prescriptions.
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Week in Review: Winning Ugly in Oakland
theBOMisthebomb replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This summary seems much too negative after a three game sweep on the road.- 37 replies
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Twins Release 2024 Schedule
theBOMisthebomb replied to Melissa Berman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yes, nice for the players. The guys who don't make the ASG roster can darn near take a real vacation. -
Twins Release 2024 Schedule
theBOMisthebomb replied to Melissa Berman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Four of the five weekends in August, the Twins are at home. That's a heck of a homestand August 23 - September 1 with St. Louis, then Atlanta, and then Toronto visiting Target Field. I'm bummed to get the Dodgers, once again most likely at a cold Target Field in April. -
I went to the Saints game on Monday night instead of the Twins game. I was a bit disappointed driving to CHS on Monday night with my choice of games since favorite Joe Ryan was pitching for the Twins. I figured it might be my only Saints game this season (I liked the independent AA Saints better) so I thought I'd make the best of it. Anyway, my wife and children like the smaller CHS venue better anyway and they don't really care about the product on the field so they actually prefer Saints games. Anyway, we had a great night at CHS despite the hour plus rain delay. Larnach went out of the stadium for the go ahead runs in the bottom of the eighth. The Saints let fans go on the field for the fireworks show viewing. It was an awesome night.
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Joey Gallo Shatters Failure Narratives
theBOMisthebomb replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
That's unfortunate because I was a Dave Kingman fan during my youth and not so much of Joey Gallo. Looking at the player comparison on BB Ref, you are fairly accurate with the comparison. -
Hater Shelves ‘Byron Suxton’ Tweet Until Next Slump
theBOMisthebomb commented on RandBalls Stu's article in Just For Fun
I think most of us have already flipped back to praising Byron Bust-on and calling him one of the most dynamic players in the game, when he plays the Twins are a contending team, he is one of the most talented players, etc. It's part of the fun of being a fan. For example, after heavily criticizing the Joey Gallo signing, I had egg on my face early in the season. Now, I am back to being offended at Gallo's strikeouts and calling for his release. -
Don't be Desperate with Royce Lewis
theBOMisthebomb replied to Hans Birkeland's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Come on, man. The guy is in his age 24 season, had 40 MLB ABs in 2022, and was the #1 overall pick. He has proven his worthiness and should be promoted to the Twins once eligible and healthy enough. -
It's Louie's Time to Shine
theBOMisthebomb replied to Lou Hennessy's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am excited to see him get 20+ starts at the MLB level and what the results are. The potential is there for Louie to be a solid, dependable middle of the rotation starter. Potentially better, if he progresses and masters additional skills. -
Week in Review: Bumpy Road
theBOMisthebomb replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
When/if our beloved Twins complete the one and done dance, all four of the major league men's professional sports teams from Minnesota will have been eliminated in the first round of the playoffs in 2023. Quite a sports accomplishment for the state!- 28 replies
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Start supporting each other like a team should!
theBOMisthebomb commented on killebrewlover's blog entry in Killebrewlover
Rocco is not an in your face manager, never has and never will be that type of motivator. I'm doubtful that getting in faces would work in today's MLB anyway. The Twins hitters and pitchers are trying their best and are making constant improvements, of that I'm certain. The other teams get a paycheck and are also among the best players in the world. I do agree they could shore up the defense a bit. There were some mental lapses during the last homestand that needed improvement. I'd recommend to enjoy the season and let the games play out on the field. This is the best and most complete starting rotation in many years. They are on a 90+ win pace and fans should be satisfied with that at the moment. -
"...the White Sox, who've already made themselves irrelevant with a truly pathetic opening month, and the Guardians, who are worth taking somewhat seriously despite also looking quite egregiously bad thus far." It's too early for statements like this. We are Minnesota and all the losing and choking in this town the last 30+ years has trained me to not even use terms line irrelevant and egregiously bad on May 1 when talking about the competition. This is Minnesota.
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Audacy is Killing the MLB Radio Experience
theBOMisthebomb replied to Peter Labuza's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
While I can certainly understand the frustration with technical issues and would ask for a credit or refund if I were in your situation, I have to wonder if there isn't room to gain some perspective. If you are that deeply engrossed in an April matchup between the Mariners and Cubs, possibly it's time to reevaluate priorities. I'm not trying to be judgmental, just making a suggestion. It's okay to miss an occasional play, or even miss an entire game. -
Week in Review: Cold Spell
theBOMisthebomb replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
MLB.com has their X-W/L at 12-8. BB Ref has their pythW-L% at .555 compared to actual of .524. I personally like the starting rotation and depth. The bats have been concerning so far.- 15 replies
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Being a season ticket holder (flex pack), you get the Sweet Spot barcode scanned at the season ticket holder booth. Then, I asked for upgrades both times because the Twins said upgrades were available via email the week before the home opener. Both times the rep reached into a drawer and pulled out a stack of paper tickets, free upgrades. They gave me enough on Monday to cover my entire group even though I hadn't purchased all five of the tickets.
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I'm not going to rant any longer against the Twins moving the opener to Friday. I do agree it essentially worked out for the most part. The Twins also ended the partnership with Budweiser for the Good Sport program. Pre- pandemic you could sign up before each game and get a free soda. They took away the free soda the past few seasons, though you could still win a bagful of Twins gear (which I did last season). The new scoreboard is awesome and amazing. The attendance has been a major downer when you take the weather into consideration. Only 14,316 on Sunday? It has lead to amazing upgrades from the season ticket holder booth for my friends and me. I was upgraded to right behind home plate, row 15 for both Saturday and Monday (I had $4 SRO tickets). My friend was given free suite access on Monday. As always, great work Melissa. You have your finger on the pulse of Target Field.
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The nonexistent security lines were amazing for the home opener. I've stood in line for what felt like hours at previous home openers, so this was a definite upgrade to the fan experience. The scoreboard was rather impressive. I did notice about halfway through the game that a portion of the scoreboard wasn't working. I'm sitting in Target Field pregame Saturday and it appears fixed. As usual, the Twins have made upgrades to Target Field that really enhance the fan experience.
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A 2023 Twins Perspective Right from the Dugout
theBOMisthebomb replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
He seems like a super nice, great guy. His BB Ref page says: Full Name: Hyun Choi Conger Twitter: @PandaCrusher35 SUMMARY Career WAR 2.0 AB 1013 H 224 HR 31 BA .221 He played with the Angels and Houston, so with Trout, Pujols, and Altuve. It would be fun to get some stories from Hank.- 9 replies
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