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  1. TwinsDr2021
    I think it is actually 243, but I might be more concerned with the batting average being sub .204 in 3 of the last 5 years, and only real position is probably DH. Would he be willing to sign a minor league deal with some incentives in a "can you make a comeback year"?
  2. TwinsDr2021
    I don't think this FO thinks it needs a top notch pitcher, I think they believe the team can succeed with Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober and handful of other starters (SWR, Varland, WInder, Maeda, and Paddock coming back) pitching to 22 to 24 batters faced a game. While I disagree with that, that is the conclusion I have came up with. Bringing somebody else in means Gray or Mahle has to go and after what they gave up to get those two I can't believe they would do that.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    Just to let you know you are asking 35 year old coming off of TJ surgery to things he basically has never done. 25 starts (he has done that 3 times), 160 innings (he has done that once) and have an ERA below 3.30 is something he only has done once and that was in 11 starts. We are asking or hoping for things from Maeda that he has never been outside of 11 starts and more than likely never will be. Just to put in perspective his 11 starts in 2020 weren't that much different than Smeltzer's first 9 starts last year.
  4. TwinsDr2021
    I could agree with that if he wasn't 26 and had a couple of years of 150 plus innings. He is a guy you ride and trade away with year and half of control for prospects.
  5. TwinsDr2021
    Why do they need more starting pitching? They have Gray, Mahle, Ryan (26), Ober (27), Varland (25), Winder (26), SWR (22) and Paddock (26) coming back. Then for depth they have Maeda, Balazovic (24), Henriquez (22), Sands (25), Headrick(25), Enlow (23). (That is 14 starters on the 40 man) That is why to me it was DeGrom, Verlander, Kershaw (all not real possibilities or Rodon and trade Gray or not bother with starters. They have given a rookie a job the last two years Ober and Ryan. They need to give another rookie(s) a shot this year. So unless they plan on trading Gray or Mahle and replacing them with an obviously better starter there is zero reason IMO to continue to let the prospects rot. For the love of gosh most of these guys aren't even young and teams aren't looking to trade for prospects older than their establised pitchers. Why in the world would Miami trade Lopez(26) for any of the guys close to his age? This is way the Twins should be spending big on offensive because they haven't developed crap on that side, but actually have done a decent job on the pitching side.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    Is the correct answer neither, let somebody else have the headache of hoping they get back to what they were a few years ago? But if you are going to make me pick, I probably pay Cody at tad bit more because he is 1 1/2 years younger. To me these are guys teams like the Tigers sign and if they get hot trade them at the deadline. I am not paying a prove it year deal without the option of picking up the next year.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    This started with me saying "If you aren't gong to play in that end of the pool you have to develop those players and as of now this FO hasn't show that ability," His response was "Buxton, Lewis, Miranda, Polanco, Arraez. Seems like we've developed a few players. Not even throwing in guys like Kirilloff or Larnach yet." As you can see I pointed out 5 of those 7 where already in the twins minor leagues and Lewis was handed to them with the first round (and as of today has done next to nothing in the majors) then I actually pointed out a few of the current FO draft picks/young guys traded for that could count as having done something in the majors (that list is pretty short). But to answer your question, if they get credit for Miranda and Arraez, do they get blame for Gonzo, Romero, Jay, Stewart, and others for failing? If your response is they failed everywhere, couldn't it be said that Miranda and Arraez would succeed anywhere? Do they get credit for developing Ryan, hard no; they do get credit for a seemingly brilliant trade though. Trading prospects for legit players isn't developing so again on Gray sure they get credit for a decent trade (which they have had a few), but that wasn't the point that started this.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    Buxton, Miranda, Polanco, Arraez, and AK all here before this FO got here. Larnach and Lewis (basically given to them with the first pick) haven't done anything yet, except give big hope to the fans. So there is Jeffers, Ober, and Duran and who else? I am talking about players that have done something not guys that may do something (like Winder and Alcala)
  9. TwinsDr2021
    So who's fault is it the Twins aren't one guy away?
  10. TwinsDr2021
    The Twins has signed Vazquez, Gallo, Bundy, Joe Smith, Coulombe, and Archer the last two years and you think we are placing too much value on Correa? I think most fans didn't think the Twins would sign Correa once let alone twice, but with all the available free agents the last two years the list above is what the Twins signed. It is sickening (but hey the Twins have been in on Rodon both times he was a free agent) and because that is what they signed they traded away how much last year to get Gray and Mahle, and most still don't think they staff is good enough to compete (I actually do) and if they want to upgrade basically anywhere they have to trade even more. That is my frustration with the Twins.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    And yet the Twins have never spent for a second piece, Maybe things are different if they sign a Gausman/Ray or Rodon to go with Correa. Or maybe they signed Marte, Schwarber and one of the pitchers. My point was that teams that win have high price players, maybe not the highest priced players but really good guys that are consistent and healthy cost big bucks. If you aren't gong to play in that end of the pool you have to develop those players and as of now this FO hasn't show that ability, we as fans are still hoping some of the old FO players save the day.
  12. TwinsDr2021
    First I want nothing to do with this FO office and a rebuild. I have said it before but will say it again, I don't believe they are getting a starting pitcher and don't think they should. They have Gray, Mahle, Ryan and Ober in the top 4 and need to continue to establish starters out of the minors. If that isn't a good enough top 4 to compete in this division then this FO has failed. What have they traded away to get Gray and Mahle and we want to trade more away to make up for that? No, doesn't make sense. That is way going after Rodon didn't make much sense either, unless the play was to trade Gray or Mahle after signing him. Sure if they want to trade scraps for a Chris Sale, somebody with possible huge upside then I say fine, lets stack him with Ober and what happens. They need to find a high price vet in a offensive position that is still good and go get him (Arenado/GoldSchimdt type) don't know if one exists but that is what they need to be looking for.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    I don't because the Twins never had the second piece. j/k
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Is this a bit misleading? I mean players with huge contracts have won the World Series. and the 20 largest is a moving target right? Signing players to huge contracts doesn't guarantee you anything, but have great players on your team sure does help. I could say something like every World Series winner since 2017 has had at least one player making over 20 million and at least one making over 15.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    If this is the plan, this FO needs to go, besides one season this team has done nothing to prove they belong part of yet another rebuild.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    The Twins need to give the 5th spot to Winder, Varland or SWR. That would be three years in a row a rookie would be inserted into the rotation. Ober, Ryan, ? , Maybe a 2nd one steps up a forces the FO hand. That is how you build a pipeline, Then have another ready for 24 (Prieline, SWR?, Raya, Festa, Medina) somebody. then you look trade off Ober for prospects, then Ryan, and on and on. That way you can spend big money on offense and if some stud pitcher becomes available to help, you have the prospects to trade for them to make a run. Or one of those prospects that steps up on the pitching side is young enough (Not Ober, Ryan, Winder, Varland) you extend them for big money. So if you get something decent for Maeda now, trade him, not so sure on Gray just yet, maybe mid season type of deal.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    This is exactly what I was thinking, way would a team want an inferior player (if you think Gallo is better than Kepler) and have to pay prospect capital for it? It makes no sense, so I am thinking it will be somebody else that is traded (Larnach or Arraez). Gallo could play 1B, DH, RF and CF. I really don't know because I don't get this signing at all.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    And the proof of that is the Twins record the last 5 years, oh wait.....
  19. TwinsDr2021
    Maybe they should have, or maybe they wanted SF to pay him 22 in a prove it year, so they could pay him 30 for 6 years, or maybe offer him less than somebody else and say they were in on him.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    100% agree you can't live in fear and yet everybody wants to sign Rodon. I am just sick of waiting for the next prospect to come save the day, how long has it been since that has happened? You have the money know sign a stud and see what happens with the prospects and figure it out when they actually force their way onto the team.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    I would add there is no guarantee either of them will become everyday MLB players. One has had 194 at bats since the Arizona fall league in 2019 and had two majors knee surgeries and the other one has had 139 total minor league at bats. These are the two that people want to base the future of the Twins on, neither are really expected to have much if any impact in 23 so maybe 24? What if it takes a little longer than to be better than adequate?
  22. TwinsDr2021
    I would trade some low prospects for Sale, if healthy he would be the Twins best pitcher, No way I giving them anything of value.
  23. TwinsDr2021
    I put no, because I would rather have seen the Twins make an offer of 9/330, the $20 short is easily explainable in taxes and the ability to make more than that in 4 extra years.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    So based on Gausman (5/110) and Ray (5/115) last year, they probably could have gotten Rodon for 5/130ish, and now it's going to cost 30 million plus for 6 years. Seems like another win by the front office. Now I don't believe they will sign him and why would they when they have Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober and actual decent prospects close who are by no means young except SWR. That top 4 if healthy should be more than enough to compete in the division, the offense on the other hand is IMO no where near good enough to complete for anything. (Unless of course, the injury prone players don't get injured and the a few guys that we have been waiting for to actually be good; turn out to be good and Polanco and Kepler are close to the top of their game and I don't see Swanson solving any of those offensive issues) But hey we signed a platoon catcher so that problem is solved.
  25. TwinsDr2021
    Well they have won 78, 101, 36, 73, and 78 games in the last 5 years, and in the two years they made the playoffs didn't win a game the other year was a 60 game schedule, and 23 doesn't look like a better than .500 team. They got played by Correa, thus possibly keeping them out of other free agents, and now there is talk of paying Rodon more than if they would have just signed him last year, and how has the attendance been trending at Target field? So sure failure my be too strong, but on the other hand....
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