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  1. So based on Gausman (5/110) and Ray (5/115) last year, they probably could have gotten Rodon for 5/130ish, and now it's going to cost 30 million plus for 6 years. Seems like another win by the front office. Now I don't believe they will sign him and why would they when they have Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober and actual decent prospects close who are by no means young except SWR. That top 4 if healthy should be more than enough to compete in the division, the offense on the other hand is IMO no where near good enough to complete for anything. (Unless of course, the injury prone players don't get injured and the a few guys that we have been waiting for to actually be good; turn out to be good and Polanco and Kepler are close to the top of their game and I don't see Swanson solving any of those offensive issues) But hey we signed a platoon catcher so that problem is solved.
  2. Well they have won 78, 101, 36, 73, and 78 games in the last 5 years, and in the two years they made the playoffs didn't win a game the other year was a 60 game schedule, and 23 doesn't look like a better than .500 team. They got played by Correa, thus possibly keeping them out of other free agents, and now there is talk of paying Rodon more than if they would have just signed him last year, and how has the attendance been trending at Target field? So sure failure my be too strong, but on the other hand....
  3. I was wrong on a plan that would be higher than zero. ;)
  4. Mike read the question being asked? I gave an answer, it is the only legit thing they could do to bring in more fans in 23 IMO. Chances of it happening are zero, but there might not be any answer that is higher than zero. Unless they plan on trading Lee and Lewis for some super star(s), I don't think it will be hard to get a ticket to games in 23.
  5. How about the FO admitting they failed and lower ticket prices and running another get to know them campaign?
  6. If you are fine with another year like the last two, then by all means run Farmer out there everyday. If you hated the last two years and are sick and tired of this FO and the excuses they have for everything then no I am not fine with running Farmer out there for half the season and hoping with both hands fingers crossed that Lewis or Lee is the savior to all the Twins problems and that every other player that has been injury prone is no longer. Also the Twins have the money to spend now and we should be worried about them spending that in the future?
  7. Yea, the Twins signed a 32 year old platoon catcher, call me underwhelmed. Is he a nice piece to he puzzle? yes absolutely, without anybody else added does he change the current team, nope.
  8. If this is your belief this front office should be fired. We weren't promised a rebuild this far into their tenure we were promised sustained success. So after two terrible years under .500 and another one to two, good luck getting butts in the seats at target field next year. I will add this unless they figure out how to get on streaming they are going to end up like the wolves were people have given up being invested and cheer for them to be bad. (Not me but I know many people that actively cheer against the Wolves and I am starting to hear similiar jokes being said about the Twins)
  9. If the Twins can convince him to sign here and pitch in the bullpen it seems like a pretty good signing. If the Twins sign him to be a starter then just fire the FO. In his last 6 games he pitched an amazing 26 innings and the 6 games before that 27. 1/3. Lets compare Archer to him in his last 12 games (49 1/3) to 53 1/3. Heney is a guy that in the last 4 years has completed 6 innings a grand total of 22 times. There were 12 guys that had 21 or more quality starts just last year.
  10. That is the good thing about bringing somebody up at age 25, there is no reason to extend him. You ride him until there is a 1 1/2 left and trade him. That is the reason to have a pitching pipleline always replacing a guy with a younger cheaper guy.
  11. Thanks, fun list. Being an this list hasn't done much for anybody's career.
  12. IMO, why pay any pitcher that you don't except to at least the 6th in most of his starts anything over 10 million. If the team feels a pitcher is limited to 90 pitches and just over 18 guys a game he isn't worth that kind of money. I think the Twins have proven with Ober, Winder, Varland and others if you are going to limit a pitcher to twice though the lineup or so, it can be done with younger cheaper guys.
  13. Are you saying the twins should start a guy in the majors who had a .317 SLG in AA at age 23? Or not sign a guy to a multi year contract because he could block prospects? I can go with the second.
  14. Sure maybe for fill in guys, but the problem with that statement is that the two rookie of years players are 21 and missed that same year. Royce Lewis miss that year and another year and now another year and still isn't 25. The Covid year hurt that guys that move though a system slow spend a couple of years in the majors (Maybe) and turn into backups or AAAA players. Real studs or even guys that have a chance to spend years in the majors just hit or pitch and make the majors. Winning teams are keeping this old of prospects on their 40 man (unless its a catcher or somebody like Canterino).
  15. If I was running the Twins the only two that get added are Julien and Canterino. I could be convinced on Serverino as well, possibly. There is no reason to waste 40 man roster spots on minor league guys on the wrong side of 25, unless of course they think there is a real chance of them making the team out of spring training. Which I don't see any of these guys Brent Headrick - 25 in December Chris Williams - 26 in 9 days Michael Helman - 27 in May Cody Laweryson - 25 in May Kody Funderburk - 26 in two weeks DaShawn Keirsey - 26 in May Austin Schulfer - 27 in December Nobody is going to put Urbina in the majors next year
  16. Could the guys in double A be any older? Hopefully they throw 95+
  17. Not really sure I see the need to sign him to a multiple year contract or really bring him back. The Twins have to figure out what they have in all these old pitching prospects. WInder, Varland, Canterino, Balazovic, Mooney, Sands, Legumina, They also need to figure out what they have with some a bit younger, Enlow, Cruz, Henriquez, Festa and SWR. Finally not block the younger guys if they prove worthy for promotion (maybe not this year but next year.) Prielipp, Raya, Medina, A real pitching pipeline is bring up a starter each year and a couple of relief pitchers so you can cycle them out prior to losing them in free agency. One could say they have Ober and Ryan and need somebody like Varland or SWR to step up this year and have a Prielipp or somebody next year. They have Duran, Jax, Moran in the pen maybe a Winder and Canterino, Henriquez, Festa or Sands steps up this year,
  18. Not a shot a you but in general 26 year old Winder has to be on the major league team as does 25 year old two time minor league pitcher of the year Varland. There is no reason both of these guys aren't starting the year in the majors both offer exactly what others/I have been asking for guys that can pitch multiple innings.
  19. Are you saying go youth on the offensive side in the last year of Gray, Mahle and Maeda?
  20. This would work in a perfect world but in the real world there are way too many variables that happens, extra innings, one of the relief pitchers isn't good or more, or you are up and somebody gives up runners and you need to bring another pitcher in. I do agree 100% they have to have some relievers that can go at least 2 innings just about every time out. The easiest way to guarantee that is when you have a pitcher you know will not go 6+ innings you start the relief pitcher for 2. Now I hate this and if Twins or anybody started doing this more often than not it would be another nail in the coffin for baseball but doing it occasionally or maybe 25-30 times wouldn't be so horrible (If the team is doing well because combing this with losing well that is unacceptable and unwatchable)
  21. McClanahan made 28 starts which put him at 5.93 a start and averaged facing 23 batters a game (Not to far off a typical Ryan/Gray start). He didn't pitch in 2020 then went straight to the majors at age 24 from A and AA in 2019. He pitched 123.1 innings in 21. He only had what I would call a Twins start less than 6 innings with less than 3 ER's 3 times and two of them were in his last 4 starts. I would assume they were trying to keep him fresh for the playoffs. To me the big difference with him and the twins pitchers was he was WAY, WAY more efficient with his pitches. He only twice got to 100 pitches and finished at least 7 innings in 25% of his starts. Kluber is what I believe the Twins thought all their pitchers could be, a guy that would pitch under 100 pitchers (never pitched more than 92 and rarely got to 90) and finish 6 innings when on and rarely ever pitch less than 5 (Only 5 times, 6 if you include his first start 4 2/3.) Rasmussen was Kluber except it took him more pitches, but when his was low they seem to let him go further than Kluber. Springs was a stud in the bullpen that was moved to a starter and given more of a leash as the season went on, never really turned into a 6 inning pitcher unless he was lights out which was about 25% of the time.
  22. They started the season with a 6 man rotation and traded for another starter, that is half of the 14, one was 24 year old two time minor league pitcher of the year (had a higher average than the team). two were Top prospects (Winder and SWR - 1 game 5 innings). That gets us to 10. One was Smelzer who as a starter was actually fairly decent and brought the team average up. That leaves us 3 Chic Chi, Sanchez and Sands who made a total 8 starts. Lets not overlook the fact that this FO brought in Bundy (29 starts and 140 innings) and Archer (25 starts and 102.2 innings) and gave them 1/3 of all the teams starts for the year, traded for two injured guys, relied on a often injured guy (Ober) and the back up plan of Smelzter/Winder(injury prone) and cast offs and didn't plan for a bullpen of guys that could go multiple innings and left Varland in the minors much longer than needed when things weren't going well. Also they had 4 starters in the top 87 starters that started games. This is completely on the FO and its plan for the year.
  23. ? you can't have 4 to 5 guys going 1 inning night. And it seems you are dead on how to stop that either your bullpen guys need to pitch longer or your starters needs to pitch longer, doesn't seem that hard, and yet the Twins FO hasn't figured it out for two years.
  24. 2 outs per game might not seem like a big deal but over the course of the season it is 108 innings. Kind of seems like a lot of innings to fill that the average MLB didn't have to, no? Dig a little deeper into the other numbers and you see they were 29th out of 30th in Quality starts, the average was 59 and they had 35 and remember they weren't using a 1 inning starter, the 3 teams below the Twins Rays, Nationals and Pirates all used a relief pitcher as a starter over 10 times, They were #1 in games where the starter went less 80 pitches with 85 games the average 45 games. They were 30th in games where the starter went between 80-99 with 67 games, the average 92 games. They were 27th in games where the starter went between 100-119 with 10 the average 25 games. I will say it again, I am not complaining about what they did last year (at least not here) and I understand some of the circumstances that may have lead to this. But to lead the majors in starts with starters having less than 99 pitches and be 29th in quality starts without ever user a "Starter" can't be summed up as "well the Twins are doing what everybody else is doing". Also my fuzzy math looks like if you remove the "starter" starts from the Rays, Pirates and Nationals the Twins drop to dead last in IP/GS.
  25. Canterino turns 25 in just over a month and has pitched 60 innings since 2019 his time as a starter is over, because it will take a couple of years to stretch him out anyway. He has the ability to be like one of the Astros relief pitchers and that is what he should be groomed for. Given him some innings in the minors and if he is good get him up to the Twins bullpen. I think Alcala should be start out as a low pressure guy until he proves he is back and better than ever. Both these two should/could jump Jax in the pecking order and pass the ball off to Duran and Lopez.
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