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  1. Why, why, why even bother talking to him, unless it is a minor league contract or for the bullpen. How old do Varland and Winder, Sands, Canterino, Headrick have be before giving them a chance? 30? even then people will probably be calling them young. With my view of things the major league starters look like, Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober, Maeda and Varland, with the AAA starters being Winder, Sands, SWR, Balazovic, Canterino, Enlow, Headrick and Henriquez. Seems like they they in theory have some starting pitching depth (Those are just the starters on the 40 man) As for the major league bullpen it looks like Pagan, Duran, Jax, Lopez, Thiebar, Alcala, Moran with AAA being Megill, and the assortment of starters above. So if a starter isn't better than Ryan, why bother, as the pen you would upgrade from Pagan, Alcala and Moran? but again the last two are pipelines guys. Can we just be done with this idea of a signing a free agent, please.
  2. Not sure I really agree with any of these resolutions. Lewis needs to get and stay healthy and prove he is a major league player, not sure he can prove he is a long term SS in half of a season or less, since I assume he will spend a few weeks in the minors before joining the Twins. If Lee proves he is the top prospect that will because he forced his way to majors, there is absolutely no reason for him to be in the minors (just to be in the minors) if he is that good and succeeding. Kind of the same with ERod if he proves 2022 wasn't a fluke he should fly though the upper minors and either be in MN or pounding on the door to say give me a chance. For Prielipp IMO he just needs to be healthy and actually deserving of even being a prospect. He will spend at least the next two years in the minors building up his innings, and that point will be almost 24. SWR not sure IMO he could do anything in spring training that would leap frog him over Mahle, Gray, Ryan, Ober so that leaves the 5th/6th spot and I think Varland deserves that spot. I would love to SWR earn a spot as the piggyback guy to the others. Since I think most will be limited at the beginning of the year.
  3. Please refresh my memory again, are we talking about the stretch in late April though May where he faced Detroit 8 times, Tampa 3 times, Baltimore 4 times, Oakland once, and KC 5 times? In June he faced Det(2)Tor(3), NYY(3), TBR(3), Sea(2), Ar(3)i, Cle(3) and hit 2 homers, 1 double and went 8 for 63. Now sure it could have been the injury holding him back (if so another wonderful job by the Twins FO and Manager) or it could have been a combo of that and facing good teams instead of the terrible teams he faced prior? I like Laranch and think he could be a solid starting major league outfielder, but I don't see a future all star, he will be 26 when the season starts so IMO this is a make or break year for him and the Twins, if he isn't good or hurt again the Twins need to quite having him hold down a 40 man spot, and if he is good and healthy that is awesome and lots of things to do with him, keep him or trade him since he isn't a free agent until 2028.
  4. Young players? Miranda(24), Lewis(23), Larnach(26), Gordon(27), Kiriloff(25), Varland(25), Winder(26), Ober(27) I would say Lewis and Miranda could be considered young, but the rest are not young. I mean Shane Bieber is like 1 month older than Ober and a year and a few months older than Winder. Comparing the Twins to the Braves for example: Albies (25), Riley(25), Harris(21), Acuna(24), Grissom(21), Strider (23), Andrson(24)
  5. Based on the trade simulator Burnes value is between 62.7 and 94, Woodruff between 40.4 and 60.6 The highest Twins are Lee between 31.1 and 46.7, Ryan 30.9 and 46.3, Duran 29.6 and 44.4. So to get Burnes, Lee is absolutely going to be required and that gets you to about half way, so unless you are adding Ryan or Duran I don't see much of a chance. Woodruff I don't believe is the workhorse people might thing he is, he completed 7 innings only 3 times last year in 27 starts, and 8 in 30 starts the year before (which isn't bad) He kind of fits the mold of Gray and Ryan. Regardless he is still not going to come cheap. I think it starts with Lee and would need probably SWR and 2 more real good prospects. Maybe Arraez could be swapped in for Lee, but then the near tier of guys go up (Arraez, Lewis, SWR). The real problem with the Twins is they don't really have much chips (Lee, Ryan, Duran, Lewis, Ober, Arreaz, Polanco)
  6. You are talking about the Max Kepler with a lifetime .232 batting average and in 8 years once hit over .243 and that was .252 in 2019 (which of the 9 full time starters that year he was 8th)?
  7. I don't think Max has all that much trade value, sure he is a could fit for a team trying to win and has a minor league prospect pretty close and if said prospect proves he deserves a chance Max moves to a 4th outfielder role or if that prospect isn't ready Max is a solid but not great MLB outfielder. If the twins are looking at getting a starting pitcher back in a trade at least one and maybe more starting pitchers on the 40 man have to go. The Twins currently have 14 starters on the 40 man. And of those 14 only three haven't pitched in the majors (Headrick - 25, Enlow - 23, Balazovic - 24) and that doesn't include Canterino which I expect to be a relief pitcher. The problem being of those 14 only two are young - SWR and Henriquez at 22.
  8. I don't think this FO thinks it needs a top notch pitcher, I think they believe the team can succeed with Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober and handful of other starters (SWR, Varland, WInder, Maeda, and Paddock coming back) pitching to 22 to 24 batters faced a game. While I disagree with that, that is the conclusion I have came up with. Bringing somebody else in means Gray or Mahle has to go and after what they gave up to get those two I can't believe they would do that.
  9. Just to let you know you are asking 35 year old coming off of TJ surgery to things he basically has never done. 25 starts (he has done that 3 times), 160 innings (he has done that once) and have an ERA below 3.30 is something he only has done once and that was in 11 starts. We are asking or hoping for things from Maeda that he has never been outside of 11 starts and more than likely never will be. Just to put in perspective his 11 starts in 2020 weren't that much different than Smeltzer's first 9 starts last year.
  10. I could agree with that if he wasn't 26 and had a couple of years of 150 plus innings. He is a guy you ride and trade away with year and half of control for prospects.
  11. Why do they need more starting pitching? They have Gray, Mahle, Ryan (26), Ober (27), Varland (25), Winder (26), SWR (22) and Paddock (26) coming back. Then for depth they have Maeda, Balazovic (24), Henriquez (22), Sands (25), Headrick(25), Enlow (23). (That is 14 starters on the 40 man) That is why to me it was DeGrom, Verlander, Kershaw (all not real possibilities or Rodon and trade Gray or not bother with starters. They have given a rookie a job the last two years Ober and Ryan. They need to give another rookie(s) a shot this year. So unless they plan on trading Gray or Mahle and replacing them with an obviously better starter there is zero reason IMO to continue to let the prospects rot. For the love of gosh most of these guys aren't even young and teams aren't looking to trade for prospects older than their establised pitchers. Why in the world would Miami trade Lopez(26) for any of the guys close to his age? This is way the Twins should be spending big on offensive because they haven't developed crap on that side, but actually have done a decent job on the pitching side.
  12. Is the correct answer neither, let somebody else have the headache of hoping they get back to what they were a few years ago? But if you are going to make me pick, I probably pay Cody at tad bit more because he is 1 1/2 years younger. To me these are guys teams like the Tigers sign and if they get hot trade them at the deadline. I am not paying a prove it year deal without the option of picking up the next year.
  13. So who's fault is it the Twins aren't one guy away?
  14. The Twins has signed Vazquez, Gallo, Bundy, Joe Smith, Coulombe, and Archer the last two years and you think we are placing too much value on Correa? I think most fans didn't think the Twins would sign Correa once let alone twice, but with all the available free agents the last two years the list above is what the Twins signed. It is sickening (but hey the Twins have been in on Rodon both times he was a free agent) and because that is what they signed they traded away how much last year to get Gray and Mahle, and most still don't think they staff is good enough to compete (I actually do) and if they want to upgrade basically anywhere they have to trade even more. That is my frustration with the Twins.
  15. If this is the plan, this FO needs to go, besides one season this team has done nothing to prove they belong part of yet another rebuild.
  16. The Twins need to give the 5th spot to Winder, Varland or SWR. That would be three years in a row a rookie would be inserted into the rotation. Ober, Ryan, ? , Maybe a 2nd one steps up a forces the FO hand. That is how you build a pipeline, Then have another ready for 24 (Prieline, SWR?, Raya, Festa, Medina) somebody. then you look trade off Ober for prospects, then Ryan, and on and on. That way you can spend big money on offense and if some stud pitcher becomes available to help, you have the prospects to trade for them to make a run. Or one of those prospects that steps up on the pitching side is young enough (Not Ober, Ryan, Winder, Varland) you extend them for big money. So if you get something decent for Maeda now, trade him, not so sure on Gray just yet, maybe mid season type of deal.
  17. And the proof of that is the Twins record the last 5 years, oh wait.....
  18. Maybe they should have, or maybe they wanted SF to pay him 22 in a prove it year, so they could pay him 30 for 6 years, or maybe offer him less than somebody else and say they were in on him.
  19. 100% agree you can't live in fear and yet everybody wants to sign Rodon. I am just sick of waiting for the next prospect to come save the day, how long has it been since that has happened? You have the money know sign a stud and see what happens with the prospects and figure it out when they actually force their way onto the team.
  20. I would add there is no guarantee either of them will become everyday MLB players. One has had 194 at bats since the Arizona fall league in 2019 and had two majors knee surgeries and the other one has had 139 total minor league at bats. These are the two that people want to base the future of the Twins on, neither are really expected to have much if any impact in 23 so maybe 24? What if it takes a little longer than to be better than adequate?
  21. I would trade some low prospects for Sale, if healthy he would be the Twins best pitcher, No way I giving them anything of value.
  22. So based on Gausman (5/110) and Ray (5/115) last year, they probably could have gotten Rodon for 5/130ish, and now it's going to cost 30 million plus for 6 years. Seems like another win by the front office. Now I don't believe they will sign him and why would they when they have Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober and actual decent prospects close who are by no means young except SWR. That top 4 if healthy should be more than enough to compete in the division, the offense on the other hand is IMO no where near good enough to complete for anything. (Unless of course, the injury prone players don't get injured and the a few guys that we have been waiting for to actually be good; turn out to be good and Polanco and Kepler are close to the top of their game and I don't see Swanson solving any of those offensive issues) But hey we signed a platoon catcher so that problem is solved.
  23. Well they have won 78, 101, 36, 73, and 78 games in the last 5 years, and in the two years they made the playoffs didn't win a game the other year was a 60 game schedule, and 23 doesn't look like a better than .500 team. They got played by Correa, thus possibly keeping them out of other free agents, and now there is talk of paying Rodon more than if they would have just signed him last year, and how has the attendance been trending at Target field? So sure failure my be too strong, but on the other hand....
  24. I was wrong on a plan that would be higher than zero. ;)
  25. Mike read the question being asked? I gave an answer, it is the only legit thing they could do to bring in more fans in 23 IMO. Chances of it happening are zero, but there might not be any answer that is higher than zero. Unless they plan on trading Lee and Lewis for some super star(s), I don't think it will be hard to get a ticket to games in 23.
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