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  1. TwinsDr2021
    They way I see it, if they go with a 13 man pitching staff, They have Lopez, Gray, Mahle, Ryan and Ober, the the relief pitchers Duran, Lopez, Jax, Thielbar, Maeda, Winder, Moran and Pagen. With Sands, Varland, Megill, Henriquez and Alcala next up. So unless they plan on trading or cutting Pagen or Megill it doesn't make sense to bring in another arm and let Varland, Alcala, and Sands rot in the minors. It isn't like these are young guys that just need more time, they either need to pitch in the majors or be let go.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    Larnach will be 26 next month, AK just turned 25, I think them not being "young" anymore has more to do with it then perception, but that is just me, considering Arraez for example won't be 26 until next April. They both won't be FA for 4 years so that is good, that they wasted 2 years each isn't.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    it took 4 years for Santana to become a full time starter and he was in his early 20's, that would put Duran close to 30, so I don't think they are fair comparisons. Liriano would be a better comparison because of his injury at age 23, but he isn't used because that didn't turn out so well, correct?
  4. TwinsDr2021
    Why are people comparing Duran to Santana? Santana was a 21 year old rule 5 guy that took 4 full years to move fully into the rotation. Duran is 25 (24 last year) coming off of an injury plagued 21 and no pitching in 20. And lets not forget not a great minor league starter (Either was Santana for that matter). If you give Duran 30 this year he going to average 4 innings per starter, because there is no chance they jump his innings from 83 to 150.
  5. TwinsDr2021
    I guess I am missing your point, some of the pitchers you mentioned were limited do to injuries and/or building up their arm, the others were limited because of the lack of time they spent in the minors. Which I am not sure what has to do with Duran, his innings were limited because of injuries and at times just not being very good. In the majors he was switched to the bullpen and things clicked, Can/should he switched back is the question, and IMO if they want to try him as a starter they need to build his innings up, which I would do by leaving him in the pen but letting him be more of a fireman, sometimes an inning, sometimes two and sometimes three and he can do that next year they could put him in the rotation, If they just put him there this year he would be limited to around 20/25 starts at 5 innings a start and probably early in the year more like 3 or 4 innings starts, that seems like a bad way to use him, IMO.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    You missed my points. #1 he was never close to being great in the minors as a starter. #2 he needs to be stretched out and that takes time they are not going to let him jump from 67.66 to 150+ innings, they aren't. Then you comparing him to Verlander, Cole, and Nola is absolutely crazy talk, when you pulled there minor league numbers, you left out the fact that Verlander didn't even spend a whole season in the minors and pitched more innings than Duran has. How about Cole 130 total in 11 (College), 132 in 12 (minors) and in 13 68 (minors) then 117.33 in the majors. Nola 100 in 12(College), In 13 126 in college, in 14 116.33 in college and 55.33 in the minors, the next year 109.33 in the minors and another 77.66 in the majors? As for Winder, Ober, Paddack using them to compare anybody doesn't win a discussion unless you are trying to convince somebody about injury prone.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    Was it is his 5.06 ERA in AAA last year as a starter with 13 walks in 16 innings that sways you to him being a starter? Only once in his minor league career did he have an ERA below 3.25 and that was in 6 starts in A ball back in 2018. He has never pitched more than 115 innings in a season. So if the Twins wanted to make him a starter this year maybe his innings jump from 83 2/3 to 130ish? that means 25, 5 innings starts, yea. I would much rather they stretch him out to 100/110 innings this year using him as a fireman type role and if that works maybe next year give him a spot in the rotation.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    Are you expecting a 29 year old FA pitcher coming off of four years with a WAR of 2.8 or more to settle for a Paddock type deal? Lets be real if he pitches the next two years similiar or better than the last two he will be looking and getting Berrios, Gausman, Ray type money not some rinky dink 4 million dollars a year, maybe if he gets injured you could be looking at a one year deal worth north of 10 million.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    Cron and Schoop both had two of their worst years in 2019 based on WAR, also is the Twins mission having a solid defensive team, they seem to be failing on that one. Is this front office trying to build a civilization or a baseball team to win a playoff game? You are correct there are a large chunk of fans that have waited their whole entire life time for a playoff win.
  10. TwinsDr2021
    I also wish him the best and won't really be missed, but lets not forget he had 6 quality starts in his 12 starts. Gray had 9 in 24, and Ryan 11 in 27, so average at best might not be accurate (he only gave up 3 or more runs in 4 times last year). He is never going to be a star in the league but I am not sure you could ask for a better AAAA starter.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    I hate to be that guy, but remind me again who (this FO) has developed? Jeffers? Miranda, Polanco, Arraez, AK, Gordon, and Buxton were carry overs (as was Garver) If you give this FO for developing previous regime top prospects than don't have also have to say what happened to all the other top prospects? There are a few maybes Larnach, Lewis, Wallner but as of now I would say they actually have done a way better job of getting guys they acquired to the majors as pitchers more than bats. Ryan, Ober, Winder, Varland, SWR, Duran, Alcala, Sands
  12. TwinsDr2021
    It should go without saying the Twins are in a better position now then the beginning of last year, first Archer and Bundy aren't on the team, but there is more reasons, Duran being a know commodity , Gordon proving he is a capable major league player, Miranda being up, a set spot for Arraez (1B or DH), Laranch and AK having to fight to a starting spot or even a major league job. What Moran, SWR, Varland did last year, Having Lopez and Mahle all year. Every team should be better at this point than they were last year or the FO should be fired. The real questions ares can Rocco be a better manager and can the players stay healthy. Both of them I am unsure of.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    I agree with everything in the post this quote is from. It is logical and spot on IMO. Sorry I didn't mean to come off with "your read" at all, I don't think they should be rebuilding at all, I was trying to say if the FO is going to rebuild they should tear it down and trade off they assets they have, not try this half arse rebuild and have another crappy year and get stuck only getting draft picks for guys they should have traded if they were going to rebuild. I don't think this FO has the luxury of rebuilding starting in the 7th year. (my crow comment was if they are trying to rebuild and they hit magic all year similiar to what happened in the first half of 22) Nothing less than a playoff victory is acceptable to me this year. I also believe bringing in a starter that isn't obviously better than Mahle, Gray and Ryan is a fools errand, unless it is Sale, I am all on board with that. Have a good weekend!
  14. TwinsDr2021
    My point wasn't really they gave up future all stars or anything, but the gave up quite a bit of prospect trade capital Petty, Hajjar, Steer, Strand to get draft choices back. (FYI - I liked all those trades so that isn't the part I am talking about) And remember this started about talk of a rebuild while holding on to two (three with Maeda) pitchers that could walk for only draft choices or nothing. Sure they could trade them at the deadline and get something but for that to happen one of two things happened, the Twins are terrible for the third year in a row and are sellers. (Which to me is a fire-able offense) or Varland, SWR, Ober, Ryan and somebody else stepped up and allowed them to trade free agent to be's. This would be the best possible scenario and I would have sides of corn bread and au gratin potatoes with my crow. Well 16 different teams in the last two years have made the playoffs so nearly every front office is bit of exaggeration. Also this will be this FO 7th year and the last two have been a downward trend and another year of that is unacceptable IMO. And in mind there is no upward trend without (Edit: went from with to without) a playoff victory. As for trading them see my comments above. (And again I hope I am asking does crow need to be well done or can you have it medium?)
  15. TwinsDr2021
    True and that gives hope that in 4 to 7 years those picks will be the next wave of saviors.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    Well they haven't traded Gray, Mahle, Kepler, and Polanco (and they signed Gallo) so I am thinking this isn't a rebuilding year in their mind. Letting Gray and Mahle go for nothing at the end of the year after giving up what they gave up would be unforgivable and a fire able offense. IMO three years in a row with no playoffs is also a fire-able offense.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    Richardson pitched 107.3 innings last year at age 21 in AA and AAA with a 2.77 ERA and 115 K's. Varland pitched 126.3 innings in AA and AAA with a 3.06 ERA and 146 K's, Plus the 26 innings in 5 starts with the twins. Not sure it is the players fault they weren't given a chance to pitch in the majors last year and Archers was? Varland did enough last year to deserve the 5/6 starting pitcher as long as he doesn't pee down his leg in spring training. SWR did enough last year to be next guy up if/when an injury happens to a starter. The Twins absolutely need to establish at least another young starter this year (Assuming Ryan, Ober still are deserving) Plus they need to start figuring out what they have with all those prospects they have on the 40. This can be done without rebuilding and trying to compete.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    Those two (Canterino and Paddack) don't even have spots on the major league roster in my example, and Moran who will be 26 shortly and Megill (also not on my roster) who is 29 for sure could be upgraded, but please explain how Wacha or any other of the FA agent starters help? If you could convince Wacha to pitch in the pen to replace Pagan great.
  19. TwinsDr2021
    Why, why, why even bother talking to him, unless it is a minor league contract or for the bullpen. How old do Varland and Winder, Sands, Canterino, Headrick have be before giving them a chance? 30? even then people will probably be calling them young. With my view of things the major league starters look like, Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Ober, Maeda and Varland, with the AAA starters being Winder, Sands, SWR, Balazovic, Canterino, Enlow, Headrick and Henriquez. Seems like they they in theory have some starting pitching depth (Those are just the starters on the 40 man) As for the major league bullpen it looks like Pagan, Duran, Jax, Lopez, Thiebar, Alcala, Moran with AAA being Megill, and the assortment of starters above. So if a starter isn't better than Ryan, why bother, as the pen you would upgrade from Pagan, Alcala and Moran? but again the last two are pipelines guys. Can we just be done with this idea of a signing a free agent, please.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    Not sure I really agree with any of these resolutions. Lewis needs to get and stay healthy and prove he is a major league player, not sure he can prove he is a long term SS in half of a season or less, since I assume he will spend a few weeks in the minors before joining the Twins. If Lee proves he is the top prospect that will because he forced his way to majors, there is absolutely no reason for him to be in the minors (just to be in the minors) if he is that good and succeeding. Kind of the same with ERod if he proves 2022 wasn't a fluke he should fly though the upper minors and either be in MN or pounding on the door to say give me a chance. For Prielipp IMO he just needs to be healthy and actually deserving of even being a prospect. He will spend at least the next two years in the minors building up his innings, and that point will be almost 24. SWR not sure IMO he could do anything in spring training that would leap frog him over Mahle, Gray, Ryan, Ober so that leaves the 5th/6th spot and I think Varland deserves that spot. I would love to SWR earn a spot as the piggyback guy to the others. Since I think most will be limited at the beginning of the year.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    Please refresh my memory again, are we talking about the stretch in late April though May where he faced Detroit 8 times, Tampa 3 times, Baltimore 4 times, Oakland once, and KC 5 times? In June he faced Det(2)Tor(3), NYY(3), TBR(3), Sea(2), Ar(3)i, Cle(3) and hit 2 homers, 1 double and went 8 for 63. Now sure it could have been the injury holding him back (if so another wonderful job by the Twins FO and Manager) or it could have been a combo of that and facing good teams instead of the terrible teams he faced prior? I like Laranch and think he could be a solid starting major league outfielder, but I don't see a future all star, he will be 26 when the season starts so IMO this is a make or break year for him and the Twins, if he isn't good or hurt again the Twins need to quite having him hold down a 40 man spot, and if he is good and healthy that is awesome and lots of things to do with him, keep him or trade him since he isn't a free agent until 2028.
  22. TwinsDr2021
    Young players? Miranda(24), Lewis(23), Larnach(26), Gordon(27), Kiriloff(25), Varland(25), Winder(26), Ober(27) I would say Lewis and Miranda could be considered young, but the rest are not young. I mean Shane Bieber is like 1 month older than Ober and a year and a few months older than Winder. Comparing the Twins to the Braves for example: Albies (25), Riley(25), Harris(21), Acuna(24), Grissom(21), Strider (23), Andrson(24)
  23. TwinsDr2021
    Based on the trade simulator Burnes value is between 62.7 and 94, Woodruff between 40.4 and 60.6 The highest Twins are Lee between 31.1 and 46.7, Ryan 30.9 and 46.3, Duran 29.6 and 44.4. So to get Burnes, Lee is absolutely going to be required and that gets you to about half way, so unless you are adding Ryan or Duran I don't see much of a chance. Woodruff I don't believe is the workhorse people might thing he is, he completed 7 innings only 3 times last year in 27 starts, and 8 in 30 starts the year before (which isn't bad) He kind of fits the mold of Gray and Ryan. Regardless he is still not going to come cheap. I think it starts with Lee and would need probably SWR and 2 more real good prospects. Maybe Arraez could be swapped in for Lee, but then the near tier of guys go up (Arraez, Lewis, SWR). The real problem with the Twins is they don't really have much chips (Lee, Ryan, Duran, Lewis, Ober, Arreaz, Polanco)
  24. TwinsDr2021
    You are talking about the Max Kepler with a lifetime .232 batting average and in 8 years once hit over .243 and that was .252 in 2019 (which of the 9 full time starters that year he was 8th)?
  25. TwinsDr2021
    I don't think Max has all that much trade value, sure he is a could fit for a team trying to win and has a minor league prospect pretty close and if said prospect proves he deserves a chance Max moves to a 4th outfielder role or if that prospect isn't ready Max is a solid but not great MLB outfielder. If the twins are looking at getting a starting pitcher back in a trade at least one and maybe more starting pitchers on the 40 man have to go. The Twins currently have 14 starters on the 40 man. And of those 14 only three haven't pitched in the majors (Headrick - 25, Enlow - 23, Balazovic - 24) and that doesn't include Canterino which I expect to be a relief pitcher. The problem being of those 14 only two are young - SWR and Henriquez at 22.
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