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  1. TwinsDr2021
    Caring here the pipeline comes from, is that what people are saying or what you are reading into? I based my comments off the article, which IMO is trying to say this FO is producing pitchers though the minor leagues (since that is the players listed). Joe Ryan pitched 9 innings in the Twins minor league system and stepped into the rotation for good after that (The Twins should get credit for that) I give the FO major props for the trade, it was an amazing trade. IMO isn't a whole lot different than Gray, Maeda, Lopez, and Paddack, which are also turning into or was a great trade. Last year and this year the FO has done a incredible job of filling the rotation and I don't care where they came from. I don't think anybody is expecting the Twins rotation to be completely homegrown or even pitchers like Duran and SWR who where acquired as minor league players, but I also think those two things are what people expect when you are talking about a pipeline. As for relief pitchers isn't that the minimum expectation of every front office, sure there may not be many as good as Duran or there is, that is probably for a different conversation, but there are RP like Jax all over the major leagues. I am not complaining about what this FO has done to fill a pitching staff or how they have done it, but this article wasn't about that it was about The Latest Testament to the Minnesota Twins Pitching Pipeline, which in 2024 could be considered mis-information.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    I will say this read like a article where somebody requested, go write an article and try to convince the reader that the Twins have a pitching pipeline. I really like Joe Ryan, the Twins traded for a major league ready starter who at times has been amazing and at times not. It was an amazing trade regardless of how Ryan's future goes. But it is weird to include him in the pipeline topic and leave out Gray, Lopez and Maeda (maybe even Paddack) for example both were also traded for and both were also MLB ready pitchers. To be honest I generally don't include relief pitchers in teams pipeline, mostly because the best relief pitchers are former starters that didn't make it for whatever reason, then harness a couple of those pitches into much shorter times and succeed and generally every team does this to different levels of success. I really like and hope SWR continues to improve and becomes a main stay in the Twins rotation for years to come. But lets be real here, he has faced Det, White Sox (2) and Seattle, 3 of the worst 8 hitting teams in the league, lets let him settle in before anointing him a MLB starter ( I would hope we would have learned that from Varland) IMO - Ober is the starting pitching pipe line as of 5/9/24, with that said this FO has done a pretty good job of bringing in starter pitchers have having them do well. (minus 2022)
  3. TwinsDr2021
    I get what the analytics say about right/right, right/left and left/right match ups say, but what do the analytics say about a guy like Margot for pinching hitting for and then being forced into a right/right match up later?
  4. TwinsDr2021
    Last 5 games, Starting pitchers 28 innings, 8 earned runs, ERA 2.57, Last 5 games, Relief pitchers 17 innings, 23 earned runs, ERA 12.17 And the Twins are 3 - 2,
  5. TwinsDr2021
    This is just one game and the Twins are going to lose another 50 - 60, so I am not all that concerned with this game. I am more concerned about burning out the pen. They have been asked to throw asked to throw quite a bit of innings the last few days, more than I believe necessary. We have seen this play out in the past and it never has really worked out. I completely understood taking out each starter pitcher, but sometimes to save a pen or exposing relief pitchers that just aren't that great you ask SWR to go get another out or three, you ask your number 2/3 starter 28 year old starter to go out and get another 1 or three outs. IMO the more we are seeing Jackson, Sands, Okert, Alcala pitch the more results like this will happen. On a positive note Ober, Jeffers, Kepler, Sands and Miranda all looked. I am a bit worried about AK but I think he will get out of the slump soon. Finally, man the Twins batters look great when they aren't just swinging for the fences ever pitch. Kepler, Larnach, Miranda at bats were a thing a beauty, and since Jeffers cut down on closing his eyes and swing as hard as he can, he has turned into an early season MVP type player.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    Here is a crazy thought, let a guy that has given up 1 hit and 1 walk in 6 innings with 82 pitches, come out for another inning if they are worried about who gets the win. (Not complaining they pulled h SWR), you can go though box scores every day and see pulling a guy in a similar situation works quite a bit and back fires quite a bit as well. (Just check out the Milwaukee/KC game yesterday )
  7. TwinsDr2021
    First wins shouldn't be taken as anything more than just another stat, it tells one part of the story. Generally pitchers that pitch longer into games ends up with more decisions (wins and loses), the game has changed and requires starters to not pitch as long and thus reduces their win total, It is also not much of a surprise that pitchers that have the most quality starts end up with more wins and/or the quality of the rest of the team. Me personally I hate the complaining of the stat, there is a flaw in every start, every stat. It feels like people want to take the credit away from pitchers of the past and give credit for the new philosophy of pitching starters less. As for SWR last night he was pulled with a 1 run lead and thus required the bullpen to pitch 3 scoreless innings so he and the team could get the win, they (Jax) failed, asking the bullpen to perfect for 3 inning on a nightly basis is asking for the impossible and won't happen for even the best relief pitchers. I also never thought much of relief pitcher wins, because they are based more on luck, and when looking at relief pitchers I generally look at holds/saves/blown save, inherited runners scored. But hey if we are going to complain, shouldn't Duran get the save, he faced betters hitters than Thielbar?
  8. TwinsDr2021
    yes to both of your questions. He has faced the white sox twice, det and sea (whose lineup looks like the Twins a few weeks ago (terrible). It was very impressive they way he dealt last night, not as impressive as the Wolves but real close and that says a lot.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    His OBP is .362, for guys that aren't hurt or have more than 25 at bats, that would put him second on the twins behind Jeffers .363. Not saying he should be on the Twins, but that isn't too shabby
  10. TwinsDr2021
    He should be a bench player that plays maybe a couple of times a week to break somebody, maybe spell a hurt player for a couple of days and/or maybe pinch him in the right situation. No matter how good he is playing should he be anything more than that. The idea that 33 year old with a career OPS+ of 86 is anything more than that is crazy talk. I don't care how bad Miranda, Castro, Julien are doing the answer is never Kyle Farmer. (except like a said to give them a day, or to pitch hit for them and you need a defensive replacement)
  11. TwinsDr2021
    Sad way to look at his time here. Only once did he has an OPS+ of under 105 and while in MN he had an .808 OPS. He didn't live up to my expectations for sure, struck out too much, overweight and never was healthy but the Twins didn't help with putting him all over the diamond. And for as bad as he was in 22 we have and are seeing worse. But he is 12th all time in Twins homers and 18th in OPS and there are quite a few Twins prospects that we are all in love with that will never end up with a Twins career as good as his. I wish he nothing but the best
  12. TwinsDr2021
    Left out Duran in my list, but I can see looking into extending both, I just don't think it was necessary last year. Jeffers is proving that wrong and hopefully Duran does as well. I just don't see mid market teams extending players like the others listed. I mean with the limited research I did you don't see many extensions from guys that were not brought up super young. (22 or younger)
  13. TwinsDr2021
    @RpR Please enlighten us on what you didn't like about the post? Was I wrong on the control of listed players?
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Are we surprised SWR came back out with 80 pitches? Is it because it is the Sox?
  15. TwinsDr2021
    Question, who are the young guys? And who has played well enough to deserve it? They have Jeffers though 2026 which I believe is age 29 (so maybe two years for him) They have AK though 2027 which I believe is age 29, has he done enough prior to this year? They have Ober though 2027 which I believe is age 31 ( are we really extending that?) They have Ryan though 2027 which I believe is age 31 ( are we really extending that?) They have Julien though 2029 which I believe is age 30. They have Lewis though 2028 which I believe is age 29 (Looks great when healthy but that is less than being hurt) That is the wonderful thing of not bringing players up until age 25 or later, you get their prime for controlled (or fairly known) cost. An basically don't have to extend them. EDIT - SWR is the type of player to extend he he proves he is a MLB pitcher, because he will become a FA in his prime.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    It just kind of like these older prospects are held down a bit, and when they are brought up have to figure it out at a time they should be thriving and moving into their primes knowing what is what. But since they are on the older side and like all pitcher (or most) struggle a couple of times and then get designated to the pen because then they are actually old. (Jax was done with chances at age 27 and 14 starts, Sands was done getting chances at age 25, Winder at age 26,) I get these three all had other things going on Military, injuries)
  17. TwinsDr2021
    Festa already being 24, it seems they are not really stretching him out to be a starter, shouldn't minor league pitchers be facing guys multiple times so they can learn or the team can learn how to navigate a lineup more than once?
  18. TwinsDr2021
    Good luck to him, I missed in the article where all this data was taken from 10 innings?
  19. TwinsDr2021
    I thinks @nicksaviking has every right as well. I mean this comment has stood the test of time. "Good lord no! Their moves are like drunk uncle at the wedding dance. Stop with the moves, my eyes can’t take it! " I looked at the article and I didn't have a comment, but there are many comments of mine shortly after that says this was not a good move.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    So at age 24 he isn't good enough or ready but will be at 25? Don't understand that logic. averaging 3 innings per start in AAA is worrisome, but if he isn't ready if needed this year, I don't have faith he will be next year either.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    1.80 ERA is one five inning game against the Royals. He is 23 which by Twins starting pitchers is a baby, In 31 games in the minors he 4.96 ERA. Not to take away what the Twins did last night, but by all accounts this guy is only pitching in the majors on one team and that team is 3-19. Now go and hit around another guy tonight that probably shouldn't be in the majors or at the least starting in the majors.
  22. TwinsDr2021
    But it didn't, they could have just not picked it up and still signed Santana and another cheap relief pitcher and save money or they could have picked it up kept him and not signed Santana because there would have been no need, with AK, Julien, Polanco, Miranda or just about anybody else to play 1B and DH and went with the vaunted pitching pipeline to fill the pen. But they didn't do either. Which goes back to my point they thought (And quite a bit of people on here, including me) Polanco and his contract would return a better haul, so they were outsmarted. But to give them some credit at least they got two prospects back. I am also pretty sure they could have offered Seattle a bag a balls and one of their journey man minor league players for DeSclafani and his salary and they would have been happy to accept. Don't be foolish to think if Polanco was still here they would have signed Santana. They took a chance by picking up Polanco they would be able to swing a deal that would benefit the team, now and going forward, at this point looks like they lost on the Now, but there is still hope on the going forward part (will they be around to see that, might be the question.
  23. TwinsDr2021
    I adamantly disagree the Polanco trade was the reduce payroll, because they didn't, it actually increased a bit if you include the two prospect minor salaries. The swapped out 10.5 million for 10.5 (a SP, RP, two prospects, and Santana) Now if they wouldn't have Santana I would have agreed they reduced salary and replace his 26 man spot with a rookie or close to that salary. This FO as usual thought they were the smartest ones in the room and thought they could pick up his option (which they didn't need to) and swap his salary for multiple players and ended up with a RP, SP replace his spot with Santana and pick up prospects to boot. And now it turns out they basically picked up his option for two minor league players at 10.5 million dollar cost, but that could go down if Topa is worth is 1.25.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    I missed Jenkins was hurt and read he strained his hammy in game 1 and was put in the 7 day IL on April 9th, it is now the 22nd and he is still out, anybody have an update. And how can everything that is good with the Twins can't stay healthy? And Lee has a herniated disc and out for two plus months? "According to Gleeman, Lee is "about three weeks into a two-month rehab plan" and the Twins are optimistic that he'll play again this season. "
  25. TwinsDr2021
    First I really, really hope this team turns it around and makes the playoffs. But if that doesn't happen, does last year make up for 21, 22, and 24?
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