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    Envisioning the 2027 Twins Starting Lineup

    With this year's contention hopes drifting away, we can start thinking about what next year holds for the starting lineup, which can begin to crystallize here in September.

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    The Twins' offense has not been a strength this year, nor has it been a weakness. By wOBA and fWAR, they have been exactly average, ranking 15th out of 30 MLB teams. They are 10th overall in runs scored, thanks mostly to an unsustainable RISP rate that has faded in the second half, but have fallen to 23rd here in a month of August that essentially knocked them out of contention.

    Next year's team is going to have legitimate contention hopes, and that's before you factor any offseason moves. It begins with their pitching staff, which figures to be extremely deep with Pablo López, Mick Abel, David Festa and others hopefully returning from injury. The bullpen has been given a year to develop and should be in a much better place entering the 2027 season versus 2026.

    This has the makings of a good team. What will determine its true upside is how good the offense can be. Are we looking at another middle-of-the-road unit like we saw this year? Or can the Twins' lineup evolve into something special as young talent melds with veteran leadership? 

    Here's my early projection of a 2027 starting lineup for the Twins, along with some thoughts and questions we need to see answered in September and the offseason for each. 

    1. Luke Keaschall, DH
    Keaschall has firmly established himself as the team's leadoff hitter, now and going forward. He's batted atop the order in 12 consecutive games and I'd be surprised if he moves away for anything other than an injury. The honor is well deserved for Keaschall, whose .416 OBP since the start of July ranks 3rd among MLB hitters.

    He provides everything you'd want from a leadoff man, whether the role is being viewed through an old-school or new-school lens. He takes good at-bats, handles the bat, hits for average, runs well and sets the table for the best hitters in the lineup. The question, of course, is where he fits in defensively. For now I've got him pegged as a regular DH who slides into an outfield corner against left-handers.

    What to watch for in September: Where the Twins play Keaschall in the field, offering clues about how they envision fitting his bat into the 2027 lineup without locking him into DH.

    2. Walker Jenkins, RF
    Jenkins has been appearing at the bottom the order initially to ease pressure on a 21-year-old seeing his first major-league action, but soon enough I think it will become clear he's the best all-around hitter in the lineup, and that is who belongs in the No. 2 spot. Already we've seen Jenkins' smooth swing and ability to control the zone, and even his ability to hang tough against southpaws. 

    He has the ability to do it all at the plate. I want to see his at-bats maximized. And slotting him in between two right-handed hitters will make it harder for opposing managers to play matchups in the late innings.

    What to watch for in September: How quickly Jenkins adjusts to major-league pitching, particularly against left-handers, and whether he can already begin establishing himself as a fixture near the top of the order.

    3. Byron Buxton, CF
    A question mark at the moment, to be sure. Buxton is currently on the injured list for a third time in the past two months with a right hip impingement that won't go away. He's never been right since the issue first sprung up, slashing 172/.274/.203 in 74 plate appearances between IL stints. GM Jeremy Zoll has acknowledged that offseason surgery is on the table. 

    What really makes the situation frustrating is that, before his hip started barking constantly, Buxton was as healthy and productive as ever. He earned a third All-Star nod in the first half by slashing .271/.328/.575 with 25 homers. That's the definition of a No. 3 hitter, and the ideal kind of slugger to have lined behind Keaschall and Jenkins. 

    The hip thing does not look good for Buxton at the moment. But neither did his knee before October 2023 surgery to excise a plica finally resolved his recurring pain. Maybe he and the doctors can figure out some kind of similar course of action for the hip this offseason? For now that's what I'm banking on.

    What to watch for in September: Whether Buxton returns at all, and if he does, whether his hip shows enough improvement to inspire confidence that rest and rehab can work, or further strengthens the case for offseason surgery.

    4. Kody Clemens, 2B
    The cleanup spot is the first one in the batting order that you come across and find a lack of credible fit among current options. It could have been Matt Wallner if he didn't fall out of the team's plans with a disastrous first half. It could eventually be Emmanuel Rodriguez. But for the moment, the most logical candidate would seem to be Clemens, who's made more starts at cleanup in 2026 than any Twin other than Josh Bell

    Clemens makes a lot of outs, which is what gives me hesitation about putting him in the top half of the lineup. His .293 OBP is 15th-lowest among qualified MLB hitters. But the power tool is legit: 22 homers, 21 doubles and six triples. His .459 slugging percentage ranks second among MLB second basemen. Plus, batting him after Buxton gives you the ability to go R-L-R-L in the top four lineup spots.

    I view Clemens as a placeholder, in multiple senses: in the cleanup spot, until someone more deserving emerges, and at second base, until Marek Houston comes up and takes over at short. 

    What to watch for in September: Can Clemens can sustain his power production while improving his ability to reach base? This could determine whether he's viewed as a legitimate middle-of-the-order bat or more of a lower-lineup complementary piece.

    5. Kaelen Culpepper, SS
    In his limited time as a big-leaguer, we've already started to get a clear idea of who Culpepper is as a hitter. He's aggressive, he swings hard, and he hits the ball with authority. Culpepper has already notched two double and three homers, with bat speed and contact quality that jump out at you.

    He also has a 16-to-4 K/BB ratio, which is the flip side to his offensive profile. I would expect him to be a power-first bat with a relatively low OBP, not unlike Clemens but hopefully with a little more discipline. Culpepper seems like a good fit to bat fifth, especially because it keeps with our pattern of alternating handedness.

    What to watch for in September: How Culpepper's aggressive approach holds up as pitchers adjust to him, and whether he can tighten his strike-zone discipline without sacrificing the impact that has made his early arrival so encouraging.

    6. Emmanuel Rodriguez, LF
    Ready or not, here he comes. Rodriguez will be out of options next spring, meaning the Twins will have to bring him north out of camp. He's the major wild-card in my projected lineup as the only player who has yet to debut, and that's why I'd love to get a look at him in September. 

    The profile here is pretty unique, with maxed-out power and patience to go along with a rare level of swing-and-miss tendency. It's not hard to imagine him best-suited for the bottom of the order initially, given the potential for overwhelm as he deals with MLB pitchers who can dot the borders of the zone, but I think Rodriguez will give you enough big swings to justify placement in the middle of the order. 

    What to watch for in September: First and foremost, whether Rodriguez gets the call. If he does, how will his extreme three-true-outcomes profile translate against major-league pitching before he's forced onto the roster next spring?

    7. Royce Lewis, 1B
    Among players listed in this lineup projection, I feel least certain about Lewis being a member of the 2027 team. On the one hand, first base is a pretty easy position to address (see: Josh Bell) and Lewis has been rather unexceptional there. On the other hand, he'll still be relatively cheap via arbitration next year, and he's been decent enough to merit another attempt at unlocking his dormant upside. Especially given the lack of competing internal options.

    At this time, I'd still be counting him in my plans, but Lewis has not shown enough offensively to deserve hitting in the top half of the order. I'm really interested to see how he finishes out this current season.

    What to watch for in September: Whether Lewis can finally rediscover some sustained offensive impact down the stretch and give the Twins a compelling reason to keep betting on his upside in 2027.

    8. Brooks Lee, 3B
    An enigma. You look at Lee's underlying metrics and he grades out as one of the worst hitters in the league, with an xwOBA ranking in the 3rd percentile. And yet. He's tied for second among Twins position players in fWAR, and he's running an above-average .739 OPS. He doesn't do anything particularly well but he does everything well enough to be a productive and reliable starter in the infield.

    Lee has a .287 career OBP and has yet to finish a season above .300. Until that changes, or he lifts his average out of the .240 range, I can't see much an argument for Lee hitting in a prime lineup position like he did on Sunday. But he's a relatively strong piece at the bottom of the order.

    What to watch for in September: Whether Lee can finish the year with stronger underlying offensive indicators — more quality contact, more walks or simply more consistent production — to reinforce his case as more than a defense-and-versatility regular.

    9. Victor Caratini, C
    Outside of a hot streak in June, Caratini has been one of the worst hitters in baseball all year. I don't expect that to improve much heading into his age-33 season. But it bears noting that the bar for a No. 9 hitter is very low — the average MLB hitter in that lineup spot is slashing .228/.294/.349 this year.

    For a catcher hitting at the bottom of the order, he's perfectly adequate. But it's certainly fun that the only clear-cut offensive liability in the 2027 lineup happens to play the same position as Minnesota's soon-to-be No. 1 prospect, Vahn Lackey, who is off to a ridiculous start in Cedar Rapids. 

    What to watch for in September: How much the Twins lean on Caratini down the stretch, relative to the outgoing Ryan Jeffers, and whether they use the fading stakes to audition Alex Jackson more seriously as a presumptive 2027 backup.

    Looing ahead at the 2027 lineup, and even starting to map things out a bit further, we can start to see a compelling convergence of the past wave and the new wave. The top prospects have officially arrived, so we no longer need to discuss their fit as theoretical. Now the real work begins. How good can this lineup be?

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    38 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

    I don't see anyone saying this. Pretty sure just about everyone has moved on to Keaschall, Culpepper, Jenkins, E-Rod and Lackey. I don't want to bring in more low ceiling Josh Bells and Victor Caratinis in just to take roster spots and ABs away.

    People have been saying this about Keirsay, Fedko, and others for the last few years.

    1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

    If you spend 23 million on Jeffers, he better play first or DH when not catching. Because he's not even going to catch half the games this year....

    WHY?

    He has that massive 14.3 caught stealing percentage, which other teams are enjoying that the Twins have behind the plate.😨

    18 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    Do you feel he isn't a realistic signing? Not trying to be a dick, just trying to see what your thoughts are that lead to "I just don't a realistic hitter to sign." 

    Seiya is likely going to be pretty expensive. No idea what the Rays would want for a year of Yandy. But I'd think Arraez and Arozarena are both gettable at a reasonable number. Fully agree that the FA options are not great, but I think there's an opportunity for an owner who truly wants to compete and is willing to spend (man, I'm full of jokes today) to make a move or 2 to bring in a legitimate hitter for this team.

    Before they sign anybody, they have to figure out what the heck they are doing, if they bring in an outfielder, they have to figure out what to do with Keashall (because if Buxton is healthy, him and Jenkins have to play), does that mean they are getting rid of of Bell, Larnach, Wallner, and everybody else (beside ERod) that doesn't have options left, or do they suck it up with Keashall at 2nd until Houston is ready? 

    If I am in charge, I reach out to Arraez and Lowe to see if either are interested, and at the same time I am calling Colorado and seeing if Erod or Tait could be the start of a deal for Goodman, (Maybe they would have interest in Laranch/Wallner/ or Lewis (not sure they have a place for him, but it is the Rockies so you never know), with maybe Festa or even Adams, Winokur or Mercedes or someone in that range and some young, young prospect if needed. I would overpay and maybe a big way if I needed to, you know to win and show the fans you really are taking big swings.  Sign Arozarena for left..

    Arozarena (LF), Buxton (CF), Jenkins (RF), Lee (3B), Culpepper (SS), Arraez (2B), Keashall (1B), Goodman(C), Bench: Caranti, Erod, Kreidler, Clemens, GG (or Lewis if nobody wants him)

     

     

     

     

    53 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    Do you feel he isn't a realistic signing? Not trying to be a dick, just trying to see what your thoughts are that lead to "I just don't see a realistic hitter to sign." 

    Seiya is likely going to be pretty expensive. No idea what the Rays would want for a year of Yandy. But I'd think Arraez and Arozarena are both gettable at a reasonable number. Fully agree that the FA options are not great, but I think there's an opportunity for an owner who truly wants to compete and is willing to spend (man, I'm full of jokes today) to make a move or 2 to bring in a legitimate hitter for this team.

    I forgot about him....😀

    2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

    Personally I only have them in the mix as placeholders until someone like Marek Houston or another prospect is ready to take their place.  At least with Lewis and Wallner there might be some sliver of hope they can find it again rather than Bell or Caratini.

    I'd probably rather find some OF version of Kyle Harrison and buy low, give them playing time, and see if we can get lucky.

    I'm in the same boat on Jeffers - I'm locking him up because I can't think of a better way to spend the money and he can hold down the fort until Lackey is ready.  

    That's on me for forgetting Houston. 

    4 hours ago, LA Vikes Fan said:

    Really? Maybe you and I are looking for different things. I'm looking for a quality bat that can hit 3, 4, or 5 on a consistent top 10 scoring team. I don't see anyone other than Yandy Diaz or, you guessed it, Josh Bell, and he could only hit 5. I think we can get away with just 1 more if Buxton hits 3 and Jeffers hit 5, with a strong left-handed bat at 4. We got the other guys.

    Brandon Lowe has produced more offense than Bell this season and he has a good glove at 2B. Gleyber Torres can still hit, he just missed time with an injury. 

    1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

    Do you feel he isn't a realistic signing? Not trying to be a dick, just trying to see what your thoughts are that lead to "I just don't see a realistic hitter to sign." 

    Seiya is likely going to be pretty expensive. No idea what the Rays would want for a year of Yandy. But I'd think Arraez and Arozarena are both gettable at a reasonable number. Fully agree that the FA options are not great, but I think there's an opportunity for an owner who truly wants to compete and is willing to spend (man, I'm full of jokes today) to make a move or 2 to bring in a legitimate hitter for this team.

    I'd rather trade for a front line starter, mostly because the franchise has had very good success with that before. But, there is enough prospect equity and not enough roster space, so a high value trade better be in the works.

    I do like Arozarena, even if the position may not be the best fit. He does seem like a guy who has a very high floor along with a reasonably high ceiling. So many offensive players crater in Seattle, and he hasn't, so I do like him quite a bit. Maybe because of that he gives me Nelson Cruz-lite vibes.

    I'd rather see Houston at SS and Culpepper at 2B but the roster could still work going after one of the better free agent second basement so I get the draw and wouldn't put up a fight.

    The problem is that this team has to decide on Jeffers ASAP and commit to Ryan staying very early. If the Twins plan on dumping them to free up money, they have to be certain they can snag a two of the very, very, very few good free agents this year, and if we were ranking teams based on how likely they are to get the free agents I want, the Twins are going to be way down on that list.

    But for all my pessimism about this free agent class, I think the price tags are going to be shockingly high. I think the big market teams are going to go all out before the CBA expires and pay these guys significantly more than projected just to get a leg up on the teams that are price conscious and are waiting to see if the CBA will come out more financially favorable to them. If the owners truly are going to try to somewhat level the playing field for all clubs, the big market clubs will surely want to take one more stab at getting an edge. Especially if any kind of cap is 'grandfathered' in. The big spenders will probably give out those long term deferred contracts simply to stretch out how long they have this payroll advantage.

    22 minutes ago, RpR said:

    Yeah, WOW, out of 42 attempts , he has stopped 7, such a good catcher.

    Which has cost the team two runs below an average catcher over the course of an entire season. It’s mostly irrelevant.

    I still can’t understand the negativity towards Lewis. Contrary to the article writers opinion I believe he is playing a darn good 1st base for the little time he has had a chance to learn it. In addition, two weeks ago we kept hearing that Lewis was the man to put the team on his back yet now he’s a bust. Give the guy a break. Since being called up from the minors his batting average is on par with the rest of the team. Put him between two good hitters so the pitcher has to pitch to him and you will see his average rise. Way too early to give up on him. 

    Lots of the discussion about Jeffers seems to be assuming he will accept the qualifying offer. That may be an iffy assumption. He is aging, this has been his best year, and the catcher market is pretty weak. This could be his best chance ever to get a big contract and it's foreseeable that several teams with large budgets could be looking for a catcher this winter. If he thinks he can get 3 or 4 years at $20 million, he'll probably leave.

    14 hours ago, mike8791 said:

    Without any significant FA addition(s) this is a below average offense.  You need at least three 4 WAR batters  on a true contender and there is no one on this list that seems capable.  Maybe Jenkins in a year or two but who else?  Lee, Lewis, Clemens are all average at best and in an ideal world should be replaced.  Caratini is well below average and as you note, no real cleanup hitters.  And the absence of Bell, Jeffers and even Larnach will hurt, at least in 2027.

    Agree that the rotation and pen look stronger on paper than the 2026 squad but that offense will hold them down.  Just too improbable that 3 rooks can mature enough to carry the lineup.  Unless the Pohlads go big on at least one all star FA, this is not a lineup that can be considered true playoff contenders.

    What team other than the Dodgers is going to have three 4 WAR batters?  The Brewers, Braves and Rays are all going to have 1 or at most 2 this year.  I would consider them true playoff contenders. 

    Sorry gang, started to read but I'm home late and late to the OP. So I guess I'm just going to toss in a nickel of an opinion at this point.

    1] KEASCHALL: 100%. He's built well, but will never be a 20 HR hitter. But with 9 so far this season...virtually a rookie season...he is starting to look like a double digit HR bat in the future with plenty of DBLs and everything else you want in a leadoff hitter. I'm OK putting him the DH role for the OP conversation of a lineup. I think his OF defense will improve, but LF is his best spot. I can still see him occasionally at 2B and 1B as a quasi-utility player. But he will primarily roll between the corner OF spots and DH, with spot duty at 2B at least, if not some 1B. Jenkins and Rodriguez can both cover CF, so he's only an emergency CF option.

    2] CULPEPPER: I know he's only a rookie, but he's got decent bat and zone control, though it needs a little work.  But he's got HIT ability and decent OB% potential and also has 20-20 potential along with a bunch of DBLS potential as well. 

    3] JENKINS: He has all the ability in the world to do about everything. He's going to HIT and get OB, and he's going to have a boat load of DBLS. He'll even steal a few bases. While his approach might never lead to being a 30HR hitter, he has the ability to easily be a 20+ HR hitter.

    4] BUXTON: 120-130 games in CF if his hip is OK after an offseason is outstanding. But a few more games at DH to prolong his career also makes sense. Imagine his RBI totals with actual OB opportunity from the players hitting before him.

    5] I'm OK with Clemens hitting 20+ HR and playing a solid 2B for NOW. And I really like him as part of the roster. 

    6] LEWIS: He doesn't have to be the Superman we thought he might be. And despite a recent slump he's been really good since his demotion and promotion. But isn't he also the biggest question mark and enigma the FO has to figure out? He's either starting to figure it out but just having a slump OR he's just never going to figure it out. 

    7] RODRIGUEZ: The FO blew this from day one last year. Despite the injury history, the kid has produced at every level. He had a good ST. He's got tremendous talent.  And IF the FO wasn't so damn dense he'd be up September 1st, tomorrow, to get a chance to dive in to rhe deep end for a month. 

    And even if he needs some time hitting lower in the lineup, that's OK. But for the FO to not bring him up tomorrow to play in September only proves Zoll doesn't know what he's doing. 

    8]LEE: Why does everyone doubt Lee? He began this season with only a year and a less than a half before this season. And not only has he settled in 3B, he's also still growing as a hitter. 

    CURRENTLY, I guess CATCHER is as it is. 

    My biggest issue remains the same.

    Are the 2027 Twins better chasing a Cruz like DH to help rake? Or are they better just better trusting in the talent on hand?

    10 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

    People basically want to bring back Jeffers and Bell and everyone else on this roster.... And expect new results....

    It's not that we definitely want to bring Bell back, but he has performed just enough to deserve it and with 90+ RBI probably 94-98. I think the Twins will bring him back for the extra 8.75 million over the 1.25 million buyout and pay 10 million for another year.  The Twins do want veterans to play with the rookies.  Bell likes it here and if he is a leader in the clubhouse, he has a good shot of being brought back.

    18 hours ago, ewen21 said:

    Byron Buxton is a problem.  His spot in the lineup is always an unknown.  Who can figure what will happen with the guy?  He has a hot month or so and then he is has a month where he is as bad as he was good and then we start hearing about a variety of ailments.  I am so over it.  He is not as special as this place has made him out to be.   His lifetime OBP is .309, his lifetime average is .248, in 12 seasons with us he has had more than 100 hits twice.  He has a lifetime average of .192 with 2 ours and RISP with 119 Ks in 338 at bats.  He has a lifetime average of .213 close and late with 183 strikeouts in 478 at bats.  That flat out sucks.  He has had so many horrible at bats in high leverage situations over the years.   He makes managing the CF spot on this roster a headache.  The sooner we can move on from him the better.  He isn't a model player.  You cannot have your model player (and the Twins have tried to put him on that pedestal) be a guy who starts in slightly over 50% in the schedule a year.  It is a fools errand.  In the last five seasons he has played 60, 57, 94, 118 and not this year probably just 72 games in CF.  Does anyone expect this to get better in 2027?  The sooner we can move on from him the better.  He isn't a model player.  We cannot have your model player be a guy who averages slightly over 50 games a year.  End of story.

     

    I like what I see from Walker Jenkins, but I am STILL waiting for us to someday....somehow........ draft, raise and produce a starting pitcher that puts fans in the stands.  It is a task that seems impossible for this organization execute and achieve.  WIll someone please name a starting pitcher we drafted, developed and saw on the mound at the major league level giving us something remotely resembling AS material?   The last time there was any actual juice behind a pitcher like that was Matt Garza in 2006.  In fact, we can go back over 30 years and he would be the only SP we actually drafted and raised in our system of any note.  That is beyond pathetic!

    I disagree that with the return of Lopez, Festa and Abel that this starting staff will be "extremely deep".  They will need to show me something different.  Lopez is a talent but he is coming off Tommy John and has only begun to throw very recently.  What is his timetable for next year?  We do not even know.  Mick Abel has 59 innings of major league experience and has a 5.46 ERA over that time and he is coming off a season ending injury.  We don't even know what he is.   Ditto with David Festa.

     

    This team has been a bore for a very long time.  I won't even prognosticate beyond the history these players have provided for us in the major leagues.  Unless this group magically transforms itself this team is a 76 win team.

    I don’t understand the Buxton hate, and I really dont know where you came up with your numbers.  
     

    here’s a few different numbers for you. Since 2021 Buxton has averaged 93 games per season. He’s also averaged 3.55 WAR. 
     

    In any given year about 4 to 5% of MLB players hit 3.55 WAR or better.  That’s about 60 players a year. The QO for 2026 (which represents the average salary of the top 125 players) was ~$22 million. Buxtons salary since signing his extension has averaged $16 million.  
     

    Even hurt as much as he has been Buxton has been a huge bargain for the Twins. To say he is a “problem” is just completely wrong. 

    15 hours ago, MapleGroveTwinsFan said:

    The brewers traded Caleb Durbin after is rookie year at age 25, and is the definition of league average hitter, and Andruw Monasterio 29 and is utility player who at his best is a league average hitter and in return got a 24/25 year old Kyle Harrison who has been in and out of the majors since he was 21 and is 10-3 with a 2.79 ERA and 127 K's in 103 innings and David Hamilton who plays good defense but can't hit (but not much than Durbin) 

    That is a win in my book, imagine the Twins trading any of the 24/25 year old rookies for a pitcher like that (Lewis, Miranda, Julien, Larnach, Wallner, Martin, am I missing anybody else)

    Yup that is a win. The comments were about them maintaining their winning ways was by trading for hauls of prospects as stars neared free agency

    43 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

    Are you suggesting that two additional runs over the course of the season are important or are you suggesting the measure of 2 additional runs is a matter of opinion.

    He’s overly focused on the percentage and not the total. If Jeffers had allowed 10 stolen bases and not thrown out anyone this year he would be focused on the 0% and not the fact that he only allowed 10 steals. 
     

    The median MLB team has 95 steals this season, which is basically what you get when you double Jeffers’ totals. His stolen  bases allowed is pretty close to the base rate. That’s why the cost is just two extra runs. 

    Interesting nobody has brought up trading Ryan. If he can come back for 3-4 strong starts he’ll rebuild his trade value (non arm injury causing ineffectiveness not a huge red flag perhaps).

    A creative front office could flip him for a middle of the order bat at 1B + prospect(s). Then re-sign Jeffers, either through QO or a 3 year deal.

    Also have to trade Lewis. I think he can continue to improve but at $5MM and all the baggage it may be time for a new start.

    1. Keaschall (DH, with some LF)
    2. Jenkins (RF)
    3. Buxton (CF)
    4. Jeffers (C)
    5. 1B
    6. Culpepper (SS)
    7. E-Rod (LF)
    8. Lee (3B)
    9. Clemons (2B)

    Rotation goes Lopez, Taj, Zebby, Abel, Kremer, Preillip, Rojas, Ober

    14 hours ago, DJL44 said:

    Runs the catcher costs a team on defense from stolen bases is actually one of the easiest, most objective and most accurate things to measure of all the defensive statistics.

     

    Good grief - over 80% of all stolen bases are stolen off pitcher and not the catcher. No catcher on earth can throw out a runner with a 25 foot head start.

    9 hours ago, Brandon said:

    It's not that we definitely want to bring Bell back, but he has performed just enough to deserve it and with 90+ RBI probably 94-98. I think the Twins will bring him back for the extra 8.75 million over the 1.25 million buyout and pay 10 million for another year.  The Twins do want veterans to play with the rookies.  Bell likes it here and if he is a leader in the clubhouse, he has a good shot of being brought back.

    Deserves based on past performance, or expected future performance?

    Bell has had an unfathomably great year hitting with RISP (.353/.400/.632) in 150 plate appearances.  Hence, he drove in many runs.  He performed very well under pressure this year. 

    But those rates are way above his career marks.  That's HOF-level hitting.  Does anyone realistically expect him to repeat those rates?   

    His career rates are only .277/.372/.485.  Solid but not spectacular.  I suspect that is likely what we might expect for him going forward.  Is that worth $10 million from a DH?

     

    9 hours ago, Brandon said:

    It's not that we definitely want to bring Bell back, but he has performed just enough to deserve it and with 90+ RBI probably 94-98. I think the Twins will bring him back for the extra 8.75 million over the 1.25 million buyout and pay 10 million for another year.  The Twins do want veterans to play with the rookies.  Bell likes it here and if he is a leader in the clubhouse, he has a good shot of being brought back.

    This is not an argument for or against Bell coming back, but to clarify on his contract that it's a mutual option. 

    So first the Twins will have to either offer Bell the $10M or pay him the $1.25M buyout.

    If the Twins decline, Bell becomes a free agent. If the Twins offer the $10M, Bell then has to choose whether to take it or walk away and pursue free agency.

    That's why the last mutual option exercised (according to AI) was Aramis Ramirez and Milwaukee in 2014. Typically either the player plays poorly and the team walks away or the player plays well enough to want to test free agency.

    In most cases, either the terms or the player's performance makes declining the option a complete no-brainer on one side or the other. With how Bell has done, the perceived excellent clubhouse fit (on both sides) and with the possibility of a lockout, I think there's at least somewhat of a chance it would be picked up on both sides, but I also see the logic in either side declining.   

     

    Am I correct in thinking that with Wallner not having been called up, he is not going to be arbitration-eligible as expected this winter? 

    From what I can find, he entered the season with 2.043 years of service time and gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 48 days this year. If they don't bring him up, it seems he'll be well short of the 2.130-ish it typically takes to be arbitration eligible as a Super-Two.

    If that is the case, I think it changes the calculus on him. It only costs a 40-man roster spot (which granted, can be valuable) to carry him to spring training to see if he can rake and/or see if he can be traded for a lottery ticket.

    If, for example, Buxton has surgery and there is question about his opening the season on the active roster, Wallner becomes another DH option if the outfield is some combination of Keaschall, Walker, Larnach, Rodriguez, Gonzalez.

    Even with Wallner's suckiness this year with the Twins, his career OPS+ remains above that of Larnach, for example. I like Larnach, but at his best he has been nowhere close to Wallner at Wallner's best.

    3 hours ago, DJL44 said:

    He’s overly focused on the percentage and not the total. If Jeffers had allowed 10 stolen bases and not thrown out anyone this year he would be focused on the 0% and not the fact that he only allowed 10 steals. 
     

    The median MLB team has 95 steals this season, which is basically what you get when you double Jeffers’ totals. His stolen  bases allowed is pretty close to the base rate. That’s why the cost is just two extra runs. 

    The part being ignored is that Jeffer's wRC+ equates to roughly 15 runs above average.  The net of those two numbers is a good player.

    7 hours ago, JCT66 said:

    I don’t understand the Buxton hate, and I really dont know where you came up with your numbers.  
     

    here’s a few different numbers for you. Since 2021 Buxton has averaged 93 games per season. He’s also averaged 3.55 WAR. 
     

    In any given year about 4 to 5% of MLB players hit 3.55 WAR or better.  That’s about 60 players a year. The QO for 2026 (which represents the average salary of the top 125 players) was ~$22 million. Buxtons salary since signing his extension has averaged $16 million.  
     

    Even hurt as much as he has been Buxton has been a huge bargain for the Twins. To say he is a “problem” is just completely wrong. 

    Exactly. Buxton is not the problem, the team not having someone to step in when, not if, he is out for an extended period. 

    Roster construction overall can be blamed on Falvey, as he left/was fired right before ST, but in-season construction is 100% on Zoll. Carrying a player who does not see the field for weeks at a time is asinine. 




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