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1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

I was counting coming into today.  But if you defend him hitting in the #4 spot, you go ahead.  But this is why this team is a sub .500 and remain one.  Clemens is not a cornerstone player they are treating him.  He will have a couple of good months same as last year and when he slumps, he slumps badly.  He needs to play three to four days a week that is where he will be most successful in helping a team win.

Again...may be in a slump as you state...but his MLB stats are a bump up above most..I sent you the link...

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Just now, RpR said:

Haters will hate.

I am not hating him, I am stating reality.  What is our record with him hitting primarily in the middle of the order this year, we are a sub .500 team.  He has a role on a team, but it is not a middle of the order bat playing every day.

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Just now, S Bart said:

Again...may be in a slump as you state...but his MLB stats are a bump up above most..I sent you the link...

I was looking at stats coming into today, not after his last AB.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Now Luke played that one very well

He has made a few excellent plays, but a lot of pee poor plays.

He is the opposite of Billy Hamilton. Good bat, no glove.

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Just now, HarmonK03 said:

I was looking at stats coming into today, not after his last AB.

 

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

I was looking at stats coming into today, not after his last AB.

Sorry,,,I do not understand what you mean. Those are the overall player stats per MLB. If you click avg,,,hits,,,ranks 4th...triples 1st, doubles and HRs  2nd...ops first

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Just now, HarmonK03 said:

I am not hating him, I am stating reality.  What is our record with him hitting primarily in the middle of the order this year, we are a sub .500 team.  He has a role on a team, but it is not a middle of the order bat playing every day.

It’s always “we’re a sub .500 team with them!” and never “he’s scored 55 runs and has 56 runs batted in.” In what world would we have been a stronger, more winning team this season without him?

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2 minutes ago, S Bart said:

 

Sorry,,,I do not understand what you mean. Those are the overall player stats per MLB. If you click avg,,,hits,,,ranks 4th...triples 1st, doubles and HRs  2nd...ops first

I looked at stats that were not updated with todays results from baseball ref.  MLB stats are updated in real time, baseball ref stats aren't.

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6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I hate kremer’s man bun, but love how he pitches 

So you think you should let his freak flag fly? I like to see them tied up while they’re pitching. They don’t look like hippies playing baseball that way.

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Just now, Twindy said:

So you think you should let his freak flag fly? I like to see them tied up while they’re pitching. They don’t look like hippies playing baseball that way.

Looks like he should be instructing yoga classes 

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Just now, Twindy said:

So you think you should let his freak flag fly? I like to see them tied up while they’re pitching. They don’t look like hippies playing baseball that way.

Sigh. Must be an NFL fan.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

They needed him back for the big Netflix game

🙄

Sadly probably more then a little truth in that.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Sadly probably more then a little truth in that.

It would be one heck of a coincidence if not. They were running promos for the game with Byron as the twins rep opposite of Harper, while Byron was on the IL

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10 minutes ago, Church of Kreidler said:

It’s always “we’re a sub .500 team with them!” and never “he’s scored 55 runs and has 56 runs batted in.” In what world would we have been a stronger, more winning team this season without him?

If we are going to keep advocating playing guys that are fringe or playing role players every day we will always be a .500 team.  So either upgrade the talent or go young and put Ross in there and take your lumps.  Maybe it pays off in future years at least.  I see comments all the time that Clemens should play 2B or a corner OF next year.  His role is not as a starter, it is a role player.  

I find it ironic his and Lee's stats are pretty similar, yet many question whether Lee hits enough to be a regular but yet Clemens does.  Bottom line, upgrade the talent.

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4 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

I looked at stats that were not updated with todays results from baseball ref.  MLB stats are updated in real time, baseball ref stats aren't.

Real time matters...honestly,,,a couple of plate appearances this far in the season is not going to matter much to the total. My main point is that he has been a season contributor,...I do not understand how it could not be thought of as otherwise. I am ready to move on from this thread

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1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

If we are going to keep advocating playing guys that are fringe or playing role players every day we will always be a .500 team.  So either upgrade the talent or go young and put Ross in there and take your lumps.  Maybe it pays off in future years at least.  I see comments all the time that Clemens should play 2B or a corner OF next year.  His role is not as a starter, it is a role player.  

I find it ironic his and Lee's stats are pretty similar, yet Lee many question whether Lee hits enough to be a regular but yet Clemens does.  Bottom line, upgrade the talent.

Clemens has a versatile glove; Lee has glove that should never leave 3rd base.

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