Twins (Ober) vs Guardians (Cecconi): 7/22/26, 5:40pm

[HarmonK03]

Just now, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

I’m pretty confident Roden will figure it out.  Tonight he scored 2 runs.   Trading Varland was the necessary evil to get the #3 pick. Garlands can be acquired or developed (ie Morris) Lackeys cannot.  Rojas and Roden can still provide good value for the Twins.  

Roden is part of the excess of outfielders that they have.  There are 9 outfielders on the 40 man roster and that doesn't include Keaschall, Jenkins or Rosario.  They need to clear some space to have enough playing time for everyone.  And Roden has not shown that he should be given priority,  I am not in favor of giving him another 200 AB's to figure it out at the expense of Keaschall or Jenkins.  It was a bad trade, time to admit it and move on.

[S Bart]

2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

He should be up here tomorrow.

It is hard to keep track of these changes...seems like there is one pitcher after another...

[S Bart]

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

Roden is part of the excess of outfielders that they have.  There are 9 outfielders on the 40 man roster and that doesn't include Keaschall, Jenkins or Rosario.  They need to clear some space to have enough playing time for everyone.  And Roden has not shown that he should be given priority,  I am not in favor of giving him another 200 AB's to figure it out at the expense of Keaschall or Jenkins.  It was a bad trade, time to admit it and move on.

I question if they will bring up Jenkins in 2026

[wesnewy]

Morris doesn't seem like he has his best stuff today, but the guards will always remain pesky

[mrmpls]

1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

Roden is part of the excess of outfielders that they have.  There are 9 outfielders on the 40 man roster and that doesn't include Keaschall, Jenkins or Rosario.  They need to clear some space to have enough playing time for everyone.  And Roden has not shown that he should be given priority,  I am not in favor of giving him another 200 AB's to figure it out at the expense of Keaschall or Jenkins.  It was a bad trade, time to admit it and move on.

SPOT ON SIR !!

[Twindy]

The Cat is not fairing well here tonight 

[Aggies7]

Morris doesn’t have it tonight. Bound for a dud 

[HarmonK03]

1 minute ago, RpR said:

Can you predict he will not, Roden , Fedko, Outman put the odds in my favor.

He has a lot more upside than any of those guys you mentioned.  I guess you prefer the Grays and Kreidlers of the baseball world.  You can't sign every starter as a free agent, you need to develop talent to take over and become starters.  At some point they have to start doing this or stay in mediocrity forever.

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

Roden is part of the excess of outfielders that they have.  There are 9 outfielders on the 40 man roster and that doesn't include Keaschall, Jenkins or Rosario.  They need to clear some space to have enough playing time for everyone.  And Roden has not shown that he should be given priority,  I am not in favor of giving him another 200 AB's to figure it out at the expense of Keaschall or Jenkins.  It was a bad trade, time to admit it and move on.

I would have preferred to keep Varland, but Rojas and Roden is still solid return. Roden can get you a decent reliever right now.   As to the outfields yes I foresee some trades but health has been as much of an issue.  

[mnfireman]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Morris doesn’t have it tonight. Bound for a dud 

Worked his way out of it...

[HarmonK03]

1 minute ago, S Bart said:

I question if they will bring up Jenkins in 2026

If they want to help 2027 and beyond they should start his development now.  I know all the arguments about next season but I think he should be up here.  I want the 26 best players on the roster and I think he is one of them.

[wesnewy]

Cory forgetting the outs, classic!

[RpR]

1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

He has a lot more upside than any of those guys you mentioned.  I guess you prefer the Grays and Kreidlers of the baseball world.  You can't sign every starter as a free agent, you need to develop talent to take over and become starters.  At some point they have to start doing this or stay in mediocrity forever.

He has no upside , he will be a rookie who has never faced Major League pitching , which has NOT gone well for the Twins.

[mnfireman]

3 minutes ago, S Bart said:

I question if they will bring up Jenkins in 2026

They should not...

[Aggies7]

Just now, wesnewy said:

Corey forgetting the outs, classic!

He’s not had a good night 😂 

[S Bart]

1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

If they want to help 2027 and beyond they should start his development now.  I know all the arguments about next season but I think he should be up here.  I want the 26 best players on the roster and I think he is one of them.

I do not disagree..same with Culpepper.....but the other comment someone made also makes sense. .the lockout is also in the future..

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

If they want to help 2027 and beyond they should start his development now.  I know all the arguments about next season but I think he should be up here.  I want the 26 best players on the roster and I think he is one of them.

At this point they should just make you the GM since you have all the answers LOL 😂. 

[HarmonK03]

Just now, RpR said:

He has no upside , he will be a rookie who has never faced Major League pitching , which has NOT gone well for the Twins.

So your answer is to stop playing rookies.  Maybe start holding the player development side of the organization responsible for not having players ready.  And you maybe the only person who says he has no upside.  

[mrmpls]

Roden  can get us a decent reliever ????    W.T.F.  are they waiting for then .  pipe dream

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

3 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

He has a lot more upside than any of those guys you mentioned.  I guess you prefer the Grays and Kreidlers of the baseball world.  You can't sign every starter as a free agent, you need to develop talent to take over and become starters.  At some point they have to start doing this or stay in mediocrity forever.

Pretty sure the same comments were made about Clemens as well. 

[wesnewy]

finally a hit for Roden LOL

[RpR]

Roden has reached the Mendoza line.

[HarmonK03]

Just now, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

At this point they should just make you the GM since you have all the answers LOL 😂. 

Isn't this a board to discuss ideas, your comment seems to be taking a shot at my opinions.  I as a fan have invested time and money into this team and I have a right to my expectations of the team.  

[Aggies7]

You simply cannot keep Roden off the bases 

[thelanges5]

Just now, RpR said:

Roden has reached the Mendoza line.

Lefty on lefty 

[Patzky]

Finally Roden comes through 

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

Roden  can get us a decent reliever ????    W.T.F.  are they waiting for then .  pipe dream

He still has a nearly 8.0 surplus value, down just 2 million since last year. 

[S Bart]

1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

Roden  can get us a decent reliever ????    W.T.F.  are they waiting for then .  pipe dream

Hey..had a hit...so i think he should stay until the homestand

[mnfireman]

Just now, wesnewy said:

finally a hit for Roden LOL

Given how MLB scorers have scored hits/errors this season, he should have 2...

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

Isn't this a board to discuss ideas, your comment seems to be taking a shot at my opinions.  I as a fan have invested time and money into this team and I have a right to my expectations of the team.  

Others have opinions as well and you have shot them all down.  Hence my point.