Cory Provus Thinks Season Finale Might Be Byron Buxton’s Last As A Twin

[RpR]

1 hour ago, LyleCole said:

I think the chance of going to a team that is a real contender will outweigh any connection to MN.  And, the trade value of Buxton will most likely never be higher than in this offseason.  

That is a double witching hour set up for a trade.  

Buxton is going nowhere except to Twins Spring Training next year.

Provus is bogus BS.

[EGFTShaw]

16 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

There are 15 teams in the bottom half of revenue.  Those 15 teams have won the WS exactly once in the past 20 years.  Let's do the math.  That's a total of 300 teams but you are going to equal that output in 5 years.  That's 60X the rate of the other organizations combined.  I am skeptical!

Ah, a MN Twins fan, Skeptical.

But honestly, you are 100% right to be skeptical.  There is more luck in winning a WS than most people think and it is just one of the things you cannot control but a big one along with injuries.

But it's like that meme, the odds you being killed by a deranged duck are very low.  But they are not zero.

Right now, as a lifelong Twins fan, I feel our odds are worse than being killed by a deranged duck.

I am surprised more people didn't call me out this.

And for the record, I didn't post it as "rage bait" either.

Let's hope that our odds of winning a WS at least gets above the Deranged Duck Odds line.

[Major League Ready]

52 minutes ago, EGFTShaw said:

Ah, a MN Twins fan, Skeptical.

But honestly, you are 100% right to be skeptical.  There is more luck in winning a WS than most people think and it is just one of the things you cannot control but a big one along with injuries.

But it's like that meme, the odds you being killed by a deranged duck are very low.  But they are not zero.

Right now, as a lifelong Twins fan, I feel our odds are worse than being killed by a deranged duck.

I am surprised more people didn't call me out this.

And for the record, I didn't post it as "rage bait" either.

Let's hope that our odds of winning a WS at least gets above the Deranged Duck Odds line.

We have no BP, we need two new corner OFers and a 4th OFer.  1B/SS and 3B are all relatively weak or non-existent in the case of 1B and we need a BU catcher.  Yes, the odds of turning that around next year are VERY low.  Yet, I would bet most of the plans we hear around here for a while will be how to make this team a contender next year and failure to follow that ill-fated plan must be a result of an unwillingness to spend.

How do they improve the odds of building a contender?  They need to invest one season (2026) in auditioning the plethora of OFers and pitchers they have in the system.   The odds of building a great OF from the group of Buxton/Martin/Jenkins/GG/Roden/Rosario and Fedko are quite good.  The odds of building a good pitching staff between Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR/Rojas/Morris/Prielipp/Culpepper and others is pretty good.  Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR showed they have what it takes in that last week of the season. 

They also have the 4th pick next year and they could acquire some very significant pieces if they trade Ryan and/or Lopez.  It would sure help if there was a great college infielder available at 4 next year but there is a good chance they could get a great AA or AAA SS or 3B for Ryan/Lopez.  There is a path with reasonable odds, it just does not start with contending in 2026 and that will be tough for some fans to accept.

I can see a reasonable chance of a good team in 2027 with Abel/Matthews/Bradley/SWR/Prielipp as the SPs and Buxton/Jenkins/GG, and Martin in the OF.  Keaschall/Culpepper/Lewis and a couple players who are not in the organization yet as the Infield.

[EGFTShaw]

1 hour ago, Major League Ready said:

We have no BP, we need two new corner OFers and a 4th OFer.  1B/SS and 3B are all relatively weak or non-existent in the case of 1B and we need a BU catcher.  Yes, the odds of turning that around next year are VERY low.  Yet, I would bet most of the plans we hear around here for a while will be how to make this team a contender next year and failure to follow that ill-fated plan must be a result of an unwillingness to spend.

How do they improve the odds of building a contender?  They need to invest one season (2026) in auditioning the plethora of OFers and pitchers they have in the system.   The odds of building a great OF from the group of Buxton/Martin/Jenkins/GG/Roden/Rosario and Fedko are quite good.  The odds of building a good pitching staff between Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR/Rojas/Morris/Prielipp/Culpepper and others is pretty good.  Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR showed they have what it takes in that last week of the season. 

They also have the 4th pick next year and they could acquire some very significant pieces if they trade Ryan and/or Lopez.  It would sure help if there was a great college infielder available at 4 next year but there is a good chance they could get a great AA or AAA SS or 3B for Ryan/Lopez.  There is a path with reasonable odds, it just does not start with contending in 2026 and that will be tough for some fans to accept.

I can see a reasonable chance of a good team in 2027 with Abel/Matthews/Bradley/SWR/Prielipp as the SPs and Buxton/Jenkins/GG, and Martin in the OF.  Keaschall/Culpepper/Lewis and a couple players who are not in the organization yet as the Infield.

110% accurate about spending.

Hence why I wanted $1.7B crowd funding to buy this off the owners who tried to sell of the team for $250M.

I really like a lot of the pieces we have, but changes must be made to move to the next level.

The approach the Pohlads have had of the Fans must attend for us to spend money is bass ackwards.

Provide a winning team and the fans will be there.

It has always just rubbed me the wrong way how the Pohlads, (there are other major sports owners who are the same so it's not unusual) viewed the Twins.

If had a restaurant and took the approach that I will only provide a good menu of food and service once I started having diners I wouldn't last 2 weeks.  In fact, I probably wouldn't get it open.

I also don't want to throw money stupidly at players, (yes, I see you Cleveland Browns and QB Watson), either.

I miss TK and his approach.

Or Gardy and the Piranhas.

Why?  Because they were fundamentally sound.

I feel our talent level has improved since the Swarming of the Piranhas, (loved that it got under Ozzie's skin), but our fundamentals have dropped.

I still am baffled how we have taken hitters who have raked through all the minor league levels and drove them towards the Mendoza line.

There are a lot of good pieces and processes there have to be other changes to move up.

Unfortunately, we are in the Era of the Pohlads.

[Mike Sixel]

21 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Oh my god.

Falvey: "This off season we invested in, brought in some guys that could really help us. Harrison Bader was a great fit for this club. Danny Coulombe played a really nice role. So did Ty France."

 

The bar is so low....so very low. 

[Mike Sixel]

4 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

We have no BP, we need two new corner OFers and a 4th OFer.  1B/SS and 3B are all relatively weak or non-existent in the case of 1B and we need a BU catcher.  Yes, the odds of turning that around next year are VERY low.  Yet, I would bet most of the plans we hear around here for a while will be how to make this team a contender next year and failure to follow that ill-fated plan must be a result of an unwillingness to spend.

How do they improve the odds of building a contender?  They need to invest one season (2026) in auditioning the plethora of OFers and pitchers they have in the system.   The odds of building a great OF from the group of Buxton/Martin/Jenkins/GG/Roden/Rosario and Fedko are quite good.  The odds of building a good pitching staff between Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR/Rojas/Morris/Prielipp/Culpepper and others is pretty good.  Matthews/Abel/Bradley/SWR showed they have what it takes in that last week of the season. 

They also have the 4th pick next year and they could acquire some very significant pieces if they trade Ryan and/or Lopez.  It would sure help if there was a great college infielder available at 4 next year but there is a good chance they could get a great AA or AAA SS or 3B for Ryan/Lopez.  There is a path with reasonable odds, it just does not start with contending in 2026 and that will be tough for some fans to accept.

I can see a reasonable chance of a good team in 2027 with Abel/Matthews/Bradley/SWR/Prielipp as the SPs and Buxton/Jenkins/GG, and Martin in the OF.  Keaschall/Culpepper/Lewis and a couple players who are not in the organization yet as the Infield.

All this.

[nicksaviking]

20 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

The bar is so low....so very low. 

And that quote doesn't do the audio justice. His tone really implied that he thinks he absolutely NAILED free agency last year.

[Mike Sixel]

48 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

And that quote doesn't do the audio justice. His tone really implied that he thinks he absolutely NAILED free agency last year.

speechless. Truly.

so much for taking personal responsibility....

[Otaknam]

On 9/28/2025 at 5:11 PM, Jacksson said:

Buxton sure fell apart down the stretch when all he could do was Strikeout or hit a HR.

Had plenty of games to become a 30 -30 player but he could neither get a hit or take a walk.  I would not be surprised to see him waive his no trade clause and get traded.

BUT Please, for heaven's sake come up with a replacement other than OUTman  . 
 

Most ball players are streaky offensively, some more than others. Buxton is no exception. But by any standard he had an excellent season.

[Original_JB]

https://www.si.com/mlb/twins/minnesota-twins-news/report-espn-closes-in-on-twins-tv-rights-with-deal-that-could-raise-prices

Yeah, that'll help *eyeroll*