Twins Choose Savings Over Substance in Paddack Trade

[Major League Ready]

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

You're not even arguing against what I'm arguing so this will be my last response to you.

Trading Dobnak at all is the choice I'm talking about. Choosing to trade him instead of choosing to demand another flyer prospect is what I'm talking about. My complaint is the Twins bringing up Dobnak at all. That is purely a money saving move. If the Tigers were willing to give more to make the deal work ("but if you take Dobnak we will take your offer") I would have preferred the Twins demand another rookie level prospect. Or DSL level prospect. Or any random lottery ticket prospect that the Tigers felt was the equivalent of taking on Dobnak.

Sure, you are absolutely right, they could have gotten another prospect.  It would have been someone with a miniscule chance of ever playing in the majors.  I guess our difference lies in that I could care less about that kind of prospect.  The other difference is that I accept it's a business and expect it will be run accordingly.  In their shoes, I would take the savings over a prospect with a 100:1 shot every time as would anyone else that has ever been responsible for the P&L in a $300M business. 

[Mike Sixel]

57 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

Sure, you are absolutely right, they could have gotten another prospect.  It would have been someone with a miniscule chance of ever playing in the majors.  I guess our difference lies in that I could care less about that kind of prospect.  The other difference is that I accept it's a business and expect it will be run accordingly.  In their shoes, I would take the savings over a prospect with a 100:1 shot every time as would anyone else that has ever been responsible for the P&L in a $300M business. 

Smugness is so unbecoming. 

[TheLeviathan]

This thread is a monument to how the Pohlads are the true villain here.  They're the reason we have to sell.  The reason we're all pissed about our situation.  The reason we have no future options to improve it.

They managed to make 1.2M for The Dobber a hot button issue.  (For good reason - Eff those cheapskates)  

But nothing encapsulates our predicament more than this thread.  Ugh.

[Bodie]

WTF???

They got rid of an injury waiting to happen carrying a 5 ERA.  Add in a guaranteed contract for a AAA pitcher nearing an 8 ERA and you whine like a b!#@h that they are being cheap????  Anyone at AAA starting can replace Paddack (now that the worst pitcher on the staff is gone!) with the added plus of having possible upside. 

They traded mistakes.  No one was.going to come in and blow you away in a trade offer for a broken down, no length #5 starter.  Even less for your #6-8 starter at AAA!

Get checked out dude!  Your irrational hatred of the Pohlads has you making an abject fool of yourself.  There are plenty of reasons to trash the Pohlads, Falvey, Baldelli et al without working yourself a manufactured dizzy over dumping salaries that really should have been cut/dfa'ed/fired before this. 

Getting anything for both is really nothing short of amazing. Best move by this FO since deciding Bader was a good deal - possibly the only good move since, but...

[Trov]

The writer makes assumptions without much to support it.  Other teams may have had interest, but their interest may have been minimal.  It is possible Twins talked to Rays and Yankees and the offers were worse than what they got.  The assumption that they could have got a better return prospect wise is a big assumption.  Also, you do not know how the Twins actually valued that prospect.  Just because national list has certain things do not mean they are right over the Twins.  You also have to think about what other trades they may intend down the road. 

[USAFChief]

The inability for a large section of our population to add 1+1 and arrive at 2 is rather frightening. 

This isn't difficult: Adding Dobnak's $2,2M to the deal lowered the prospect return. 

You can be fine with that.

But unless you can make a case Detroit wanted Dobnak for baseball reasons, you cant deny it.

[CTDookie]

Saddest 2 days in Twins history.  I get letting some of the pending free agents go for a 6-day old sandwich, and I’m not worked up about CC going, given his injury situation the last few years, but we got nothing for the guys we had under control for reasonable amounts, meaning Duran and Jax. No sure-fire prospects that we could look forward to as being a future fixture in the lineup.  Some of them shouldn’t even be playing pro ball (Matt Mikulkski, I’m particularlylooking at you). So how much do the Pohlads expect to sell their minor league team for now?