Is José Miranda a Viable Primary First Baseman in 2025?

[RpR]

2 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Margot, Farmer and Vazquez (plus Thielbar, Jackson and Okert) were on this year's team and they all contributed to missing the playoffs. The only rookie in the outfield was Austin Martin and he only played half the season. The infield rookies were Royce Lewis (he was injured half the year) and Brooks Lee (only played 50 games). Woods-Richardson was great in the rotation as a rookie as was Sands in the bullpen. Your narrative does not match the data.

Hmm, Julien 94 games, Martin 93, Lee 50, Lewis 82, Kirilloff 57 are all rookies and most were a strong reason/s for the Sept. collapse.

Defense -  where they fell apart, Lee, who looks not bad at Third, had positive Rdrs, the rest had all negative Rtot and Rdrs numbers , with Julien and Martin being the worst.

Vazquez all positive Rtot and Rdrs, Jeffers all negative while Margot and Farmer like Lee split the numbers data agrees with me totally.

Data

[RpR]

2 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

The Math is pretty easy.

If the Twins spend around 130 Million a Year. 

If you forget about the 40 man for simplification and just focus on 26 roster spots. 

130 Million divided by 6 is 5 Million. 

For each roster spot you can spend an average of 5 million dollars. You can fill the team with Santana's and Chris Paddacks at 5 million per. 

But... But... If you want to roster upper level veterans like Correa, Lopez, Buxton and Vazquez.

That's about 76 million on those 4 players. 

130 Million minus 76 million = 54 Million

26 players minus 4 players = 22

54 million divided by 22 = 2.45 million

That's it... You have 22 spots to staff at an average of 2.45 million. 

2.45 million will buy you crap out of the veteran pile. It will buy you a team full of Michael Tonkin types. 

Now factor in the Arb Eligible Guys - No longer rookies but guys who have shown a little something. We have 11 of those and they will cost about 33.3 million this year.  

54 million minus 33.3 million = 20.7 million

22 spots minus 11

Now you have 11 spots to fill with 20.7 left and you are down to 1.88 million per. 

Next time you want to complain about rookies. Do the Math. 

It shouldn't take someone very long to realize that not only are rookies making the minimum about the only thing you can do... but perhaps the most important thing you do. Instead of complaining about them over and over again... I take the opposite approach... I full throatedly cheer them on because I've done the math and I know without a shadow of a doubt... those young players are the only thing that can save us.  

 

 

Math -  fewer fans, less income, boring mediocre to losing team, less fans less money coming in.

 

[Riverbrian]

20 minutes ago, RpR said:

Math -  fewer fans, less income, boring mediocre to losing team, less fans less money coming in.

 

[DJL44]

2 hours ago, RpR said:

Hmm, Julien 94 games, Martin 93, Lee 50, Lewis 82, Kirilloff 57 are all rookies and most were a strong reason/s for the Sept. collapse.

Julien and Kirilloff were NOT rookies last season and neither of them were responsible for September. Kirilloff was out injured and Julien was mostly benched. Martin was in AAA for most of September so he's blameless. Lee was only playing because veteran Kyle Farmer was terrible and veteran Carlos Correa was injured.

That leaves Lewis. He wasn't good but I don't think you can blame a collapse that epic on one player, no matter how much you want a scapegoat. Plus, he was being forced into action at 2B on the fly because veteran Kyle Farmer was so terrible.

[RpR]

17 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Julien and Kirilloff were NOT rookies last season and neither of them were responsible for September. Kirilloff was out injured and Julien was mostly benched. Martin was in AAA for most of September so he's blameless. Lee was only playing because veteran Kyle Farmer was terrible and veteran Carlos Correa was injured.

That leaves Lewis. He wasn't good but I don't think you can blame a collapse that epic on one player, no matter how much you want a scapegoat. Plus, he was being forced into action at 2B on the fly because veteran Kyle Farmer was so terrible.

If you have an option, you are still a rookie. in My opinion.

[ashbury]

1 hour ago, RpR said:

If you have an option, you are still a rookie.

That's simply not how the major leagues define the term.  These  players would not have been eligible for the Rookie of the Year award, had they excelled.

BTW I think Carlos Correa has never been sent down on minor league options, so all three of his are intact.  Do you consider him a rookie too?

[Riverbrian]

9 hours ago, RpR said:

If you have an option, you are still a rookie.

Mama says that Alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth but no toothbrush. 

 

[DJL44]

10 hours ago, RpR said:

If you have an option, you are still a rookie.

If you want to communicate with other people it is important to use the actual definitions of words and not definitions that exist only in your head.

[Squirrel]

10 hours ago, RpR said:

If you have an option, you are still a rookie.

Quit saying dumb stuff to troll just because you dislike young players. Stop it now. Consider this a warning.

[TheLeviathan]

24 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

If you want to communicate with other people it is important to use the actual definitions of words and not definitions that exist only in your head.

Purple Monkey Dishwasher!

[ashbury]

2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

Purple Monkey Dishwasher!

Concur, because I vehemently disagree.

[Fatbat]

If you look at the Tiggers, they took a dump in ‘23 because of youth, they were playing the best ball in September’24 tho. 

Dbacks and Rangers youth movement both got hot in ‘23 and ended up in the OCT classic. 

Tell me the Orioles won’t be in the ALCS in the next 1-5 years and I will simply dismiss you as an idiot. 
 

There is a youth movement in the Twins Organization and it should be leaned into.  We struck gold with Nelson Cruz and Carlos Santana in recent years but they aren't $ 2-4M type guys.  It hurts our club  everytime we sign an average type Veteran.  It really messes with us when we get ahold of a Gallo, Margo, Pagan, DeSclafani…. (list is endless). 
 

Embrace rookie - young developing talent types! They are frustratingly entertaining but at least they can learn how to win.  

[RpR]

7 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

Mama says that Alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth but no toothbrush. 

 

Crocodiles are meaner, why?

[RpR]

6 hours ago, DJL44 said:

If you want to communicate with other people it is important to use the actual definitions of words and not definitions that exist only in your head.

 The FO here do not like my opinion and I have beed informally spanked, owy, owy, owy.

Que sera, sera.

[ashbury]

5 hours ago, RpR said:

 The FO here do not like my opinion and I have beed informally spanked, owy, owy, owy.