Twins re-signed Baker

[DaveW]

Speaking of which...has anyone heard from thrylos since the hurricane? Do we know he made it through safely? Seriously.

 

I'm sure he is fine, Leigh Valley is pretty far inland.

[John Bonnes]

Speaking of which...has anyone heard from thrylos since the hurricane? Do we know he made it through safely? Seriously.

 

I'm sure he is fine, Leigh Valley is pretty far inland.

 

I traded messages with Thrylos earlier today. He's short of heat, power and water, but other than that, he's fine.

[Guest USAFChief]

Speaking of which...has anyone heard from thrylos since the hurricane? Do we know he made it through safely? Seriously.

 

I'm sure he is fine, Leigh Valley is pretty far inland.

 

I traded messages with Thrylos earlier today. He's short of heat, power and water, but other than that, he's fine.

 

Thanks.

[Thrylos]

Speaking of which...has anyone heard from thrylos since the hurricane? Do we know he made it through safely? Seriously.

 

Thanks for the concern

 

I am alright (as John B said). Not much more than a phone these days (charged by my car charger) to connect to the 'net. Lehigh Valley kinda mess these days and have been working with folks and chainsaws to clear roads and stuff. Not too much water like NJ and NY and DE, but lots of trees and power lines down and the such and lots of folks who need help. So that's why I have not responded at this. Now I got a WiFi connection nearby, so here we go.

 

I still stand by the original post. Did not find more details (hey, got other priorities right now, sorry) but I do stand by it. Baker is a Twin with a 3 year total contact including incentives and options (and I do not know how many incentives and/or options). We will find out the details soon.

[Guest USAFChief]

Glad to know you're OK. Best wishes with the mess.

[Twins GFP]

Still trying to find out the details (while trying to figure out the hurricane issue here and the stuff that comes with it, too)

But it looks like this:

3 year deal with option(s) and incentives. Not certain about the total value (heard a couple of things). Will be announced after the World Series is done.

 

So that is that. And you will hear the details from the access folks soon (Giants' helping)

If my electric holds Sandy, I might add more.

 

Just wanted you all to know.

 

(and I do not mind this move)

 

I think it's time to call this busted. Thrylos claimed the deal was done, which it obviously is not. The claim was not that they are close, or have generals worked out.

 

I would like to see Baker back, and a 1 year deal with options makes perfect sense.

 

Glad to hear Thrylos made it through the storm.

[Thrylos]

Glad to know you're OK. Best wishes with the mess.

 

Thanks. Messes will go away soon. At least we did not lose any people around here. Just trees and first world taken-for-granded things. Those things will come back...

[Thrylos]

I think it's time to call this busted. Thrylos claimed the deal was done, which it obviously is not. The claim was not that they are close, or have generals worked out.

 

I would like to see Baker back, and a 1 year deal with options makes perfect sense.

 

Glad to hear Thrylos made it through the storm.

 

Thanks.

As far as the deal goes, I still stand by it. It is done. I would suggest to wait until Baker "signs elsewhere" to call this busted....

 

Teams take time to announce things (esp. the Twins.) I will give you a recent example from about a year ago: I found out that the Twins agreed with Willingham about a week before it was "made official" last off-season. I tweeted that. Same source with this, btw... Lots of deniers then (because they all loved their "Cuddy"), lots of deniers now. We shall see.

[Twins GFP]

I think it's time to call this busted. Thrylos claimed the deal was done, which it obviously is not. The claim was not that they are close, or have generals worked out.

 

I would like to see Baker back, and a 1 year deal with options makes perfect sense.

 

Glad to hear Thrylos made it through the storm.

 

Thanks.

As far as the deal goes, I still stand by it. It is done. I would suggest to wait until Baker "signs elsewhere" to call this busted....

 

Stand away, it's still busted. The deal may be close, it may be exactly as you said, but it is not done. His name is not on the dotted line, which is what you said.

[Nick Nelson]

Teams take time to announce things (esp. the Twins.) I will give you a recent example from about a year ago: I found out that the Twins agreed with Willingham about a week before it was "made official" last off-season. I tweeted that. Same source with this, btw... Lots of deniers then (because they all loved their "Cuddy"), lots of deniers now. We shall see.

Honest question: What incentive would Baker have to tell reporters that the two sides are "far away" and that he's open to other teams if he'd already signed a contract? I understand that teams have a process for making these things public but that's pretty far-fetched.

[Thrylos]

Nick

Not sure about the timing of Baker's quote. When was it reported? And Baker might not have incentives to make such statement but the ones who sign him may like it to make it seem that it was tough.. Not sure what is the story there...

[glunn]

Speaking of which...has anyone heard from thrylos since the hurricane? Do we know he made it through safely? Seriously.

 

Thanks for the concern

 

I am alright (as John B said). Not much more than a phone these days (charged by my car charger) to connect to the 'net. Lehigh Valley kinda mess these days and have been working with folks and chainsaws to clear roads and stuff. Not too much water like NJ and NY and DE, but lots of trees and power lines down and the such and lots of folks who need help. So that's why I have not responded at this. Now I got a WiFi connection nearby, so here we go.

 

I still stand by the original post. Did not find more details (hey, got other priorities right now, sorry) but I do stand by it. Baker is a Twin with a 3 year total contact including incentives and options (and I do not know how many incentives and/or options). We will find out the details soon.

 

I am glad that you are OK and hoping that you are correct about Baker.

[SweetOne69]

Nick

Not sure about the timing of Baker's quote. When was it reported? And Baker might not have incentives to make such statement but the ones who sign him may like it to make it seem that it was tough.. Not sure what is the story there...

 

Baker's quote was reported after it was announced that they declined his option.

[Twins Twerp]

My sources are telling me that Josh Hamilton is close to a 6 year contract worth 140 million dollars. Right now, Hamilton is also considering a contract from the Royals, Padres, and Pirates. I am told he is leaning Twins because Minneapolis has the least amount of strip joints and downtown is kind of...eah? (not that great). Baker on the other hand, has not been signed. My sources have said they have no idea how the situation is going and told me there is no indication of any talks going on.

[DaveW]

I think it's time to call this busted. Thrylos claimed the deal was done, which it obviously is not. The claim was not that they are close, or have generals worked out.

 

I would like to see Baker back, and a 1 year deal with options makes perfect sense.

 

Glad to hear Thrylos made it through the storm.

 

Thanks.

As far as the deal goes, I still stand by it. It is done. I would suggest to wait until Baker "signs elsewhere" to call this busted....

 

Teams take time to announce things (esp. the Twins.) I will give you a recent example from about a year ago: I found out that the Twins agreed with Willingham about a week before it was "made official" last off-season. I tweeted that. Same source with this, btw... Lots of deniers then (because they all loved their "Cuddy"), lots of deniers now. We shall see.

 

No, your report is "busted" the minute Baker doesn't sign a 3 year contract. 95% of the people here think, have thought he would resign with the Twins.

 

Glad to hear you are doing ok, somehow we only got some flooding here in our neighborhood in Brooklyn, we have a lot of friends however who weren't so lucky, a lot of their families lost entire houses and lower Manhattan is an eerie ghost town these days. (and starting to smell)

[Brock Beauchamp]

and lower Manhattan is an eerie ghost town these days. (and starting to smell)

 

How is that any different from a typical day in lower Manhattan?

[kab21]

 

No, your report is "busted" the minute Baker doesn't sign a 3 year contract. 95% of the people here think, have thought he would resign with the Twins.

 

His report is already busted. Teams don't wait more than a week to announce a done deal. i think it will still happen but if it was truly agreed on then it would have been announced. I highly doubt that they are waiting because they don't want to upstage Hurricane Sandy or the election.

[PseudoSABR]

It's possible that thyros' source overstated how done the deal actually was. Even a source gets some pleasure about being right about something before anyone else, even before there's something to actually be right about.

[Twins GFP]

It's possible that thyros' source overstated how done the deal actually was. Even a source gets some pleasure about being right about something before anyone else, even before there's something to actually be right about.

 

Then the quote should have been:

 

Sources are telling me that Baker has a 3 year deal with the Twins but it is not quite finalized. Expect an announcement within a few days.

[PseudoSABR]

It's possible that thyros' source overstated how done the deal actually was. Even a source gets some pleasure about being right about something before anyone else, even before there's something to actually be right about.

 

Then the quote should have been:

 

Sources are telling me that Baker has a 3 year deal with the Twins but it is not quite finalized. Expect an announcement within a few days.

Oh I agree. I was being somewhat sarcastic.

[fittdogg]

I thought this was a done deal?

[John Bonnes]

If people think they have inside information about a pending move, I have no problem with them posting it in the bulletin board, PROVIDED THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON IT. That's part of what a bulletin board is.

 

Now we know that Thrylos' sources cannot always be trusted (or that Thrylos is apt to jump the gun.) That's valuable information.

 

I don't see a reason to pile on about this much beyond that. The last thing I think any of us want is for people to not share information which they have some confidence in because of some holy retribution.

[Twins GFP]

Bonnes, you may want to close the comments if you are looking to protect Thrylos on this one.

 

Thrylos said it was done. Period. No comments about "close to signing" or other caveats with an out clause. Any piling on needs to be done because how it was reported, not that it was reported.

[ThePuck]

Bonnes, you may want to close the comments if you are looking to protect Thrylos on this one.

 

Thrylos said it was done. Period. No comments about "close to signing" or other caveats with an out clause. Any piling on needs to be done because how it was reported, not that it was reported.

 

Who cares...people make mistakes. He thought it was a done deal and he posted. He was wrong. Oh well. I, for one, am glad he was.

[gunnarthor]

Bonnes, you may want to close the comments if you are looking to protect Thrylos on this one.

 

Thrylos said it was done. Period. No comments about "close to signing" or other caveats with an out clause. Any piling on needs to be done because how it was reported, not that it was reported.

 

Who cares...people make mistakes. He thought it was a done deal and he posted. He was wrong. Oh well.

 

Has he ever been right?

[ThePuck]

Bonnes, you may want to close the comments if you are looking to protect Thrylos on this one.

 

Thrylos said it was done. Period. No comments about "close to signing" or other caveats with an out clause. Any piling on needs to be done because how it was reported, not that it was reported.

 

Who cares...people make mistakes. He thought it was a done deal and he posted. He was wrong. Oh well.

 

Has he ever been right?

 

No idea, but I doubt there's a person on here who hasn't put info out there that ended up wrong...

[Jeff P]

If people think they have inside information about a pending move, I have no problem with them posting it in the bulletin board, PROVIDED THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON IT. That's part of what a bulletin board is.

 

Now we know that Thrylos' sources cannot always be trusted (or that Thrylos is apt to jump the gun.) That's valuable information.

 

I don't see a reason to pile on about this much beyond that. The last thing I think any of us want is for people to not share information which they have some confidence in because of some holy retribution.

 

I agree, I don't see the benefit of piling on when someone turns out to be wrong.

 

Jeff

[DaveW]

Occam's Razor: Thrylos doesn't have a "source" and was talking out of his ass.

 

Honest question: Does he contribute anything to this forum? All of his posts seem to be one of two things:

1.Making up things to bash the front office/Gardy/etc

2.Making up things to claim he is some sort of important beat writer/rumor monger for the Twins.

 

Seriously, pathological lying on the internet is nothing new, I just would expect a site like this to be above it.

[twinsnorth49]

If people think they have inside information about a pending move, I have no problem with them posting it in the bulletin board, PROVIDED THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON IT. That's part of what a bulletin board is.

 

Now we know that Thrylos' sources cannot always be trusted (or that Thrylos is apt to jump the gun.) That's valuable information.

 

I don't see a reason to pile on about this much beyond that. The last thing I think any of us want is for people to not share information which they have some confidence in because of some holy retribution.

 

I agree, I don't see the benefit of piling on when someone turns out to be wrong.

 

Jeff

 

Except if it's Thrylos, that's the benefit.

[Twins Fan From Afar]

Well, I'll defend thrylos since he's not around to do it himself, and since I think that this piling on is a little ridiculous.

 

Yes, many of his comments involve his dislike of Gardy and Andy, and he clearly has some animus toward the front office. Yes, he probably comments too much on that. To me, that's not much different than some posters here that tie every Twins move (or non-move) back to things like the Mauer contract, or the Pohlads' perceived thriftiness, or the perceived "pitch-to-contact" mantra that no longer works, or the JJ Hardy trade that we got nothing in return for, or the "promote-from-within culture" that arguably hasn't gotten this team very far into the playoffs. I personally am guilty of doing this, too. I think we're all entitled to our sticking points, with the caveat that others probably tire of reading them. Thrylos probably does it more than some others do. And just like anything else on the internet, I guess we're all free to read, or not read, what he writes, and we're all free to comment, or not comment, on what he writes.

 

I actually enjoy reading thrylos' blog during the season. He has a good knowledge base about prospect stuff. And I will maintain that he does add positive things to this site.

 

So he was really, really wrong on this. Big deal. And I suppose he deserved a little heat for declaring this a done deal when it clearly wasn't, and for being so wrong on it in the end. But maybe we can move on now to other baseball stuff. Rather than discussing thrylos, I think I'll return to the forum discussing Baker and read some comments from other people on how the heck we're going to add 4 pitchers to create a legitimate rotation.