Hrbowski Verified Member Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Update: Astros Fire Assistant GM Brandon Taubmanhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/10/astros-fire-assistant-gm-brandon-taubman.htmlThe Nationals probably already know all the Astros' signs by now.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 The fired guy probably played dumb, initially, and whoever drafted up the first statement was probably taking the fired guy on his word.I think there was probably more organized circling the wagons than that. I'm sure others agreed to corroborate his story, at someone's direction, no doubt.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Good for Houston. I would like to think the Twins would have done the same. Carefully and quickly gathered the evidence they needed for firing someone for cause needs, reversed an early stance in less than a week, and cleaned house. It sure was quicker, and more decisive, start to finish, than the Sano event, and this event just involved words.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 I'm pretty surprised he got fired, and not just ....something else. Not sure what something else, but something else. Have they apologized to the writer for calling her a liar yet? edit: nm, I read their statement....
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 I'm surprised but quite happy this guy was fired.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 I'm pretty surprised he got fired, and not just ....something else. Not sure what something else, but something else. Have they apologized to the writer for calling her a liar yet? edit: nm, I read their statement....I saw the GM speaking today, and apologized to some one specifically, though I'm not sure it was the author of the article. But the GM owned the previous error without really qualifying it. Also I think it's pretty obvious Taubman lied to the Astros in their investigation, and that made it really easy to fire him.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Evidently the guy has no time to take 5-10 minutes out of his day to call her and apologize personally.
ashbury Verified Member Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Evidently the guy has no time to take 5-10 minutes out of his day to call her and apologize personally.On a hunch, I googled his name with the additional search term "fraternity". Yep, prep-school in HS, followed by a fraternity at Penn. I'll step on some toes by saying this, but it all kind of fits together as part of an old and ugly stereotype.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 https://twitter.com/thehazelmae/status/1187505844591697920?s=19 Evidently the guy has no time to take 5-10 minutes out of his day to call her and apologize personally.She was literally sitting in the room when he was asked..... They are clueless. Or lack empathy. Or any sense of accountability.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 She was literally sitting in the room when he was asked..... They are clueless. Or lack empathy. Or any sense of accountability.Yes. And I say that from experience.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2019 Author Posted October 25, 2019 Interesting article from Jeff Passan at ESPN, with some background details about the Astros poor responses: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27926780/the-houston-astros-front-office-missteps-began-long-brandon-taubman-comments When asked by the Astros about his behavior, Taubman had vociferously denied targeting the women. Another Astros employee backed his version of the story, sources say. The organization found the information compelling enough to forgo any further examination of the comments and their context, even though Taubman's story contained clear logic gaps. It was, as one league source says, "the Astros being the Astros. They trust their people."For nearly eight years, Luhnow had fomented a culture that pitted the Astros vs. the baseball world. This cocoon protected Taubman, even if it meant ignoring the tenet of information that stabilized the operation. They believed him, with no proof beyond his word. Less than 10 minutes after Apstein's tweet Monday, Yahoo Sports' Hannah Keyser, one of the other women standing in the group, confirmed SI's version of the story. It did not dissuade the Astros from releasing the statement anyway. More accounts substantiating Apstein's description followed the team's statement -- first from the Houston Chronicle's Hunter Atkins, then from a Chronicle story citing three eyewitnesses.The corroboration was damning. The statement would not stand. The Astros scrambled Tuesday morning to craft two new statements -- one from Taubman, the other from Crane. Though they struck a more apologetic and conciliatory tone, both shared the tone-deafness of the first.
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