Article: Twins Game Recap (7/23): Twins Fall Short to Yankees in Game of the Year

[gocgo]

In years past, we would have rolled over.  We didn't, and they didn't.  I feel like these two teams are evenly matched based on the sum of the games played so far this year.

[USAFChief]

On June 27th Parker loaded the bases against the Rays with no outs in extra innings and got out of it without even giving up a sac fly.

when I was 18 I drove to South Dakota and back for fireworks. 15-20 miles an hour over the speed limit both ways. Didn't get a ticket. I should probably expect similar results every time, don't you think?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

On June 27th Parker loaded the bases

Sorry, you lost me after this part.

[Nine of twelve]

 

The question really is, would you rather have Hicks in a corner OF spot or Rosario/Kepler?

If Hicks were still with the organization our four outfielders would be Buxton, Hicks, Kepler, and Rosario. All four are good enough defensively to play center field. It would be a dream outfield situation. However, it also means that a very good player would always be sitting on the bench, not contributing. A good GM would trade from a position of strength to improve a position of weakness, and in retrospect trading Hicks was probably the right thing to do. The problem is that trading him for John Ryan Murphy was certainly the very wrong thing to do.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Every bad call affects the game but not in the same way. Just like the playoffs two years ago where Santana had the third strike on Gregoriius that turned into a three run home run, this one should have ended an inning instead of giving Gregorius an at bat with bases loaded. Not as much impact when it happens to the 8th batter with bases empty on the first pitch. The pitch before the walk was a curve ball that was pretty borderline. I said out loud to my wife "he should throw the exact same pitch but three inches higher" In my opinion he executed the perfect pitch because it was nasty but not so close that it should have been subject to human error. Duffy got hosed. Theoretically all blown balls and strikes change at bats and thus change games but they are hardly created equal.

That's all fair, except other posters were claiming there were numerous other egregious calls last night, and/or that they all went in the Yankees favor. Those things can be false, but you're right, it still doesn't necessarily excuse the Duffey call.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

That's all fair, except other posters were claiming there were numerous other egregious calls last night, and/or that they all went in the Yankees favor. Those things can be false, but you're right, it still doesn't necessarily excuse the Duffey call.

I saw the Yankees get the shaft on a few calls as well but the nature of Duffey's non-call was what made it so egregious: man (men?) on, two outs, 3-2 count, late in the game, one run game.

 

If the pitcher makes what is essentially the perfect pitch in that situation - which is what Duffey did - he should get the call almost every time. The ball was in the zone and nigh unhittable.

 

I think enough people around here should know me well enough that I try really hard not to crucify an ump, even if they make a bad call because those things tend to even out in time.

 

But that call just about sent me through the roof last night.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I saw the Yankees get the shaft on a few calls as well but the nature of Duffey's non-call was what made it so egregious: man (men?) on, two outs, 3-2 count, late in the game, one run game.

 

If the pitcher makes what is essentially the perfect pitch in that situation - which is what Duffey did - he should get the call almost every time. The ball was in the zone and nigh unhittable.

 

I think enough people around here should know me well enough that I try really hard not to crucify an ump, even if they make a bad call because those things tend to even out in time.

 

But that call just about sent me through the roof last night.

 

and it's why we need robo umps. The game should have been decided by correct calls... the ones missed against the Yankees... and that one. Who knows what the final result is, but the calls should have been correct.  They weren't. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

and it's why we need robo umps. The game should have been decided by correct calls... the ones missed against the Yankees... and that one. Who knows what the final result is, but the calls should have been correct.  They weren't. 

I've been slightly against robo umps for a long time now but last night, more than anything I've felt since the Cuzzi postseason call, has infuriated me to the point where I believe baseball needs to make more changes to how they review and umpire games.

 

We'll see if it wears off but I'm now neutral, if not slightly positive, on robo umps.

[Riverbrian]

 

I've been slightly against robo umps for a long time now but last night, more than anything I've felt since the Cuzzi postseason call, has infuriated me to the point where I believe baseball needs to make more changes to how they review and umpire games.

 

We'll see if it wears off but I'm now neutral, if not slightly positive, on robo umps.

 

Keep watching... You'll join the team. Lots of significant game changing moments. 

[USAFChief]

On June 27th Parker loaded the bases against the Rays with no outs in extra innings and got out of it without even giving up a sac fly.

On July 24th, Parker was DFA’d.

[h2oface]

 

I do applaud terrydactyls1947's optimism but Darius's take is totally correct. In a sane world you just have to make that strike 3 call for Duffy. No different than Tom Brady and the Patriots - NY will get the calls - and stud reputation guys like Chapman will get the calls, and nobody's like Kohl Stewart will not get the calls. Last night is what we should expect come playoff time. Pitching is the difference maker, and umpires will give the benefit of the doubt to Big Names and Big Teams. Not fair - but it is the nature of human nature I guess? We need to be better and control what we can control. I did like to see Baldelli go off. We needed that. Was starting to wonder. I feel better about him than ever right now.

 

No pitcher or batter or home team should just "get the calls" There is a simple solution, very simple and immediately available, to take the plate umpire's guessing or intentional or unintentional bias out of the equation.

 

Just use the tech to call the correct balls and strikes. Very simple.

[h2oface]

 

Hicks:

2016 - 123 games played (

2017 - 88 games played

2018 - 137 games played

2019 - 52 games played

 

400 games:

60 homers, 194 RBI, 2017 and 2018 he had seasons with above .800 OPS

 

Buxton:

2016 - 92 games played

2017 - 140 games played

2018 - 28 games played

2019 - 75 games played

 

335 games:

35 homers, 135 RBI, Never had a season with above .800 OPS. Best was .728 in 2017.

 

Not only has Hicks been historically more reliable, but he's been arguably more productive. In my opinion Buxton needs to step it up and become more reliable and more consistently productive or else it seems like the Yankees win the CF battle.

 

Definitely hated the trade, and wish Hicks was still on the team. Horrible horrible trade.

 

But....... I don't see Aaron Hicks on this list. Buxton's value is massive. And if he stays healthy and starts hitting consisently, which I think he will just like I thought Hicks would (and Gomez would), Buxton's value will be off the charts, and well past any dream of what Hicks could offer.

 

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