Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 I'd say pretty similar both ways. Some obvious balls called strikes both ways, but they're in the same areas, so I guess at least the missed calls were for the most part consistent.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I'd say pretty similar both ways. Some obvious balls called strikes both ways, but they're in the same areas, so I guess at least the missed calls were for the most part consistent. I look at that and interpret it very differently. There were 5 pitches on or in the box called balls for the Twins compared with 2 for the Phillies. In two instances the Twins did NOT get a call at the bottom of the zone that the Phillies’ pitcher got TWICE. Nine of twelve 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I look at that and interpret it very differently. There were 5 pitches on or in the box called balls for the Twins compared with 2 for the Phillies. In two instances the Twins did NOT get a call at the bottom of the zone that the Phillies’ pitcher got TWICE. The Twins had A LOT more pitches on the line.....so the fact that more were missed is not a surprise to me. jorgenswest 1
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 The Twins had A LOT more pitches on the line.....so the fact that more were missed is not a surprise to me.The problem, of course, is that is where successful pitchers live. Frankly, at this point in his career, Berrios has earned borderline calls. He was an all star last year. Of course, not all of those calls were necesarily for/against Berrios. That’s a graph for all Twins’ pitchers if I interpret correctly.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 The problem, of course, is that is where successful pitchers live. Frankly, at this point in his career, Berrios has earned borderline calls. He was an all star last year. Of course, not all of those calls were necesarily for/against Berrios. That’s a graph for all Twins’ pitchers if I interpret correctly.Nobody should have to earn a correct call. Automated pitch calling is currently at or above the level of humans and will improve. It's time to take action to install that. Mike Sixel and 70charger 2
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Nobody should have to earn a correct call. Automated pitch calling is currently at or above the level of humans and will improve. It's time to take action to install that.Personally, I don't mind the imperfections of human umpires, but I'm starting to endorse robo-umps, in the hopes that it would reduce the "we wuz robbed!" fan commentary. railmarshalljon, Mike Sixel, Tom Froemming and 1 other 4
BJames Provisional Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 My only gripe was letting Castro hit in the 7th with one out and Good bats on the bench. Castro should never play past the 6th inning.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 From yesterday. Looks pretty good to me. I don't know, it kind of looks like he stole two maybe three strikes and had five maybe four strikes called balls.
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 I don't know, it kind of looks like he stole two maybe three strikes and had five maybe four strikes called balls.One thing that's worth keeping in mind, and is probably the reason we don't have an electronic strike zone right now, is that not every batter has the exact same zone. There's a six-inch height difference between Rhys Hoskins and Jean Segura, for example. So, while I enjoy looking at this stuff and try to pass along the data whenever balls and strikes are brought up, it's not the gospel. As long as there aren't an alarming number of pitches in the zone called balls, as we saw in some of Mitch Garver's games last season (but not so far this year), I think it's pretty difficult to get worked up either way. But, you're never ever going to get every call on the black, I think you're generally lucky to go 50/50 on those pitches, from what I have observed. When I look at the Twins chart, I see four balls that were called strikes against only one strike that was called a ball. Otto von Ballpark 1
wallyrichards Provisional Member Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 They may want to check Hoskins bat for cork. The game winning home run looked llike it was playable when it left his bat but it kept going and going and going. These guys have to give Barrious a little more support when he goes out and pitches a good game like that. We need a little more than one run. Riverbrian 1
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 They may want to check Hoskins bat for cork. The game winning home run looked llike it was playable when it left his bat but it kept going and going and going. These guys have to give Barrious a little more support when he goes out and pitches a good game like that. We need a little more than one run. That home run was scary. If the can park it on that pitch... he can park it on any pitch. Forget Harper... Hoskins is the guy to watch in Philly. BJames 1
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 Personally, I don't mind the imperfections of human umpires, but I'm starting to endorse robo-umps, in the hopes that it would reduce the "we wuz robbed!" fan commentary.It would reduce the "we wuz robbed!" fan commentary because it would reduce robbery. ashbury 1
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 It would reduce the "we wuz robbed!" fan commentary because it would reduce robbery.I'm not sure most of the complaints are based on actual robbery, but rather perceived robbery...
Doomtints Verified Member Posted April 9, 2019 Posted April 9, 2019 Those pitching diagrams can't be right. There should be 133 and 134 dots on those charts, respectively.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 Those pitching diagrams can't be right. There should be 133 and 134 dots on those charts, respectively.Pitches that are batted wouldn't be on those charts.
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