Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 It's that time of year again, where Reusse writes his annual "Turkey of the Year" article in the Star Tribune. This one is harder to guess this year, since most of the sports teams are performing better than expectations. I'm thinking this year will be someone related with Gopher sports.... The football team isn't good, and the hockey team's attendance numbers are way down. Other than that, I can't think of another obvious choice... Who's making the Turkey of the Year list?
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Twins related guesses - Phil Hughes, Levine for trading away at the deadline instead of adding Non Twins related - Gophers HC Fleck, Atlanta's former GM Coppy, Trump, Jerry Jones/Roger Goddell
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 22, 2017 Author Posted November 22, 2017 Twins related guesses - Phil Hughes, Levine for trading away at the deadline instead of adding Non Twins related - Gophers HC Fleck, Atlanta's former GM Coppy, Trump, Jerry Jones/Roger Goddell Good ones. I forget that some years Reusse goes with a national name, and not just the local sports names.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 22, 2017 Author Posted November 22, 2017 Previous winners: 16- University of Minnesota Athletics15- Death14- Timberwolves13- Terry Ryan12- Tubby Smith11- Zygi Wilfred10- Brett Favre09- Tim Brewster08- Marion Gaborone07- Charlie Weis06- Pam Boston05- Bob Neagle04- Red McCombs03- Glen Mason02- McHale/Saunders01- Randy Moss/Cris Carter00- Jesse Ventura99- Clem Haskins98- Carl Pohlad97- Denny Green96- Kerri Strug95- Warren Moon94- Jack McCloskey93- Norman Green92- Gophers Football91- Chris Doleman90- Kent Hrbek89- Mike Lynn88- Lou Nanne87- Carl Pohlad86- Kenneth Keller85- Lou Holtz84- Les Steckel83- Paul Giel82- Billy Martin81- George Steinbrenner80- Bobby Knight79- Pete Rozelle/Bowie Kuhn78- Woody Hayes
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 I don't think you can use the Twins this year. Someone from the Wild (or, the Wild) is a distinct possibility. Other honorees could be: Mark Coyle, Sam Bradford, LaVar Ball,... Donald Trump, for sticking his nose into the anthem issue. Or Donald Trump, just because.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Previous winners: Forgot he honored the U of M last year! They are a favorite well-deserved target, but Coyle might have to wait til 2018
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 I have to think the Fleck extension puts Coyle over the top. But he is awesome at being counter to expectations.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 http://www.startribune.com/patrick-reusse-s-2017-turkey-of-the-year-is/459472353/
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 I think this might represent his swan song from the column.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Still haven't read it. Glad there were no spoilers here but that's quite a tease.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Patrick Reusse, I salute you. The best local sports writer of my lifetime.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 23, 2017 Author Posted November 23, 2017 I think this might represent his swan song from the column.Yeah, it certainly reads that way. If that's the case, it was a hell of a run for this series.
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Yeah, it certainly reads that way. If that's the case, it was a hell of a run for this series.The series is by far the best thing I have read. And I completely agree with Chief, easily the best local writer of my lifetime and I don't expect him to be passed.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I like Reusse. I don’t think today’s newspapers will ever produce guys like him (and Sid) any time in the future.
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 When I left the Twin Cities in 1996, I thought Reusse had become something of a punch line. Did his reputation go through a renaissance, or am I just misremembering?
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 When I left the Twin Cities in 1996, I thought Reusse had become something of a punch line. Did his reputation go through a renaissance, or am I just misremembering?Homers, especially Gopher football fans, have never liked him. Mid-90s struck me as a fertile time for ripping local local sports teams, depending on your opinion of Denny Green. He always struck me as the most savage of critics, because he is not a cartoon about it, but also a great read when there is success, especially unexpected success. Recently I have appreciated his focus on local sports, especially Gopher women's sports, (He has a little bit of a history with women's sports, to put it mildly). And at his heart he's a baseball and Gopher guy, which are my favorite sports to follow too.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 When I left the Twin Cities in 1996, I thought Reusse had become something of a punch line. Did his reputation go through a renaissance, or am I just misremembering? I agree, his reputation has increased, I remember him less fondly from decades past. I think it's kind of a last sentinel standing and refusing to leave his post at the gates of a razed kingdom kind of thing.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I like Reusse. I don’t think today’s newspapers will ever produce guys like him (and Sid) any time in the future.In the case of Sid, that's a good thing. It's one thing to slant one way or another. It's another thing to be a cheerleader for the local teams.
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 In the case of Sid, that's a good thing. It's one thing to slant one way or another. It's another thing to be a cheerleader for the local teams.I don't know if that's necessarily true. The market seems big enough for all types.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 I don't know if that's necessarily true. The market seems big enough for all types.There should be some level of objectivity.If he wants to go work for the team and write, fine. But he doesn't. He works for a newspaper tasked with covering the news. I'm not sure why we give sportswriters a pass that we'd never give to any other type of journalist.
drjim Provisional Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 There should be some level of objectivity.Counterpoint: Lots of people prefer to be lied to and/or have their beliefs validated and their media consumption proves it.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted November 24, 2017 Posted November 24, 2017 Counterpoint: Lots of people prefer to be lied to and/or have their beliefs validated and their media consumption proves it.Oh I don't deny that Sid's style is well received by some. But that doesn't make it right. Newspapers are supposed to be objective. I'm not naive enough to think they always (or even most often) are, just that they should be.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 When I left the Twin Cities in 1996, I thought Reusse had become something of a punch line. Did his reputation go through a renaissance, or am I just misremembering?Nah. When I was younger, I remember hating any columnist who said anything bad about any team/player I followed no matter what they did. Reusse could be harsh but I don't think he was ever unfair which is a big distinction. Plus he truly loves baseball and has always been willing to attack greedy owners.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 There should be some level of objectivity.If he wants to go work for the team and write, fine. But he doesn't. He works for a newspaper tasked with covering the news. I'm not sure why we give sportswriters a pass that we'd never give to any other type of journalist.Sid isn't a reporter, he's a columnist. He's paid specifically to present opinions, not just facts.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 Sid isn't a reporter, he's a columnist. He's paid specifically to present opinions, not just facts.Yes, but Ruesse specifically mentions that Sid's positive representation of the local teams weren't always his opinions behind closed doors. In fact, that was specifically his motivation for writing honest opinions. In other words, he's not reporting the objective facts, and he's not even supplying his honest opinion, he's fabricating a positive spin for the local teams. If he were an anonymous guy in a comment section, he'd be considered a "troll". I can't help but respect his longevity, and work ethic, and I hope he lives another 25 years, but the sooner his complete lack of journalistic integrity is retired, the better.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2019 Author Posted November 28, 2019 I think WE were the Turkey of the Year for reading this column...
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted November 28, 2019 Posted November 28, 2019 I think WE were the Turkey of the Year for reading this column... not sure what you mean
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