John Bonnes Site Manager Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 This year's Twins Daily Offseason Handbook included profiles of 22(!) free agent starting pitchers that the Twins could pursue. Below are a few examples. You can still download your own Offseason Handbook AND name your own price right here. Acquiring starting pitchers through free agency is a fickle endeavor. Sometimes it goes right (Ervin Santana). Sometimes it goes wrong (Ricky Nolasco). Sometimes it goes very right, and then very wrong (Phil Hughes). Assessing these arms and how they’ll progress over the life of a contract will forever be an inexact science. But aiming higher typically yields better results.The Twins already have a number of credible starters in the mix, but if they are setting their sights on a postseason run, they could use a stud to slot in alongside Santana and Jose Berrios. This year’s class features some very noteworthy names. Jake Arrieta, RHPAge: 32 | Previous Team: Cubs2017 Stats: 168.1 IP, 14-10, 3.53 ERA, 1.22 WHIP Arrieta had one of the best pitching seasons in recent memory when hewon the Cy Young in 2015, and he won 18 games in 2016. He didn’t looklike himself in the first half this year, but pulled things together in thesecond half, posting a 2.28 ERA after the break. He turns 32 in March andhis fastball velocity was at a career low (92.1 MPH), so there might be somehesitation in his market, but the Scott Boras client will get paid.Estimated Contract: 6 years, $168 million Lance Lynn, RHPAge: 30 | Previous Team: Cardinals2017 Stats: 186.1 IP, 11-8, 3.43 ERA, 1.23 WHIP After missing 2016 due to Tommy John surgery, Lynn came back strong in2017, starting every fifth day and getting better as the season progressed.His velocity trended upward throughout the summer and in the second halfhe mostly looked like a rotation-fronter. Lynn has a 3.38 career ERA andhas been extremely reliable in St. Louis. He’s also two years younger thanArrieta.Estimated Contract: 6 years, $150 million Yu Darvish, RHPAge: 31 | Previous Team: Dodgers2017 Stats: 186.2 IP, 10-12, 3.86 ERA, 1.16 WHIP He is one of the game’s premier strikeout pitchers, with an 11.0 K/9 ratethat ranks first among active starters since coming over from Japan in 2012.The results haven’t always lined up with the spectacular stuff, and thisyear in particular Darvish had his battles, especially with the long ball. Heposted the highest ERA and lowest strikeout rate of his career in 2017, sothere’s some risk here, but Darvish certainly has the ability to slot as an ace.Estimated Contract: 5 years, $135 million Other Options:Alex Cobb, RHP (30): Cobb’s market will be interesting to see. He hasn’t beenquite the same since returning from Tommy John surgery but was still quite effectivethis year (3.66 ERA, 1.22 WHIP) and set a career high for innings. Jaime Garcia, LHP (31): The left-hander enjoyed a lengthy and illustrious careerwith the Twins, making one start in July as the Twins flipped from buyers to sellers.On the right terms he’d be a fine addition, but his upside is limited. Francisco Liriano, LHP (34): Reunion time? All these years later, Liriano is stillstruggling to find himself. He pitched out of the bullpen exclusively after a deadlinetrade to Houston, and might be more interesting in that capacity if he couldjust throw some dang strikes. Michael Pineda, RHP (29): He’s one of the game’s better strikeout pitchers and aformer young phenom, but Pineda has already gone through a bunch of shoulderissues and he underwent Tommy John in June. Do you ink him on a two-year contract,hoping he can help down the stretch in 2018 but more with an eye on scoringbig value in 2019? CC Sabathia, LHP (37): As a member of the Indians and Yankees, he’s been athorn in Minnesota’s side for almost two decades. His performance in the past twoseasons suggests he’s not done getting results. Plus, if he joins up, he’ll never need to face the Twins’ bunt-happy offense. There are 62 pages of Twins-focused offseason goodness just waiting for you to obsess over. Just name your own price and you can immediately download theTwins Daily Offseason Handbook. Click here to view the article
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 I want one of Lynn or Darvish.. Pretty meh to the rest of the crowd.
Brandon Verified Member Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 how do you figure Lynn get 150 million. that number is over 50 million or more then what he will actually get.
beckmt Verified Member Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 how do you figure Lynn get 150 million. that number is over 50 million or more then what he will actually get.I have not seen numbers that high, but have seen in the 4 or 5/$100 range, and it could be a players market at the top end.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 how do you figure Lynn get 150 million. that number is over 50 million or more then what he will actually get.As always, these are kind of shots in the dark, and I admit that one was probably quite a bit too high, but the thinking is this: He's younger than Arrieta or Darvish. He's been very consistent, never posting an ERA of 4.00 or higher (albeit in the NL). Outside of sitting out 2016 with TJ surgery, he's basically never missed a start. And he bounced back nicely from that setback this season, especially in the second half (2.99 ERA July-through-Sept). He's not the flashiest name on the market but he might be the safest. That could count for a lot. bluechipper and messed up 2
terrydactyls Verified Member Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Take that money and extend the contracts of the young stars already on the team and not spend it all on one player.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 I want one of Lynn or Darvish.. Pretty meh to the rest of the crowd. Concur. The only other person I have a remote interest in is Pineda. Overall he's pretty meh though.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) If any team signs Arrieta to that estimated contract, good luck to them. I have a feeling he's going to fall off the proverbial cliff within the next 1-2 years. Edited November 20, 2017 by Vanimal46 bluechipper and diehardtwinsfan 2
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Lance Lynn among Dave Cameron’s free agent land mines. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-landmines/
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