glunn Community Moderator Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Sigh.... For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section.
The Greatest Poster Alive Provisional Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 By choosing to play professional sports you willingly enter a system where you are a product to be bought and sold. Calling an athlete the property of a team is no stretch, and comparing this concept of ownership to the ownership of slaves is asinine. This is a non issue and we're on the 2nd 50 post thread on the subject...
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section. I shared this with RP - but it's issues like this where sometimes it's just better to call the poster an "idiot", let everyone move on, and get past it. Instead, here we are on page 4.....
TwinVike61 Provisional Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section. I shared this with RP - but it's issues like this where sometimes it's just better to call the poster an "idiot", let everyone move on, and get past it. Instead, here we are on page 4..... It's like the traffic slowed by the car wreck...we all curse those in front of us for slowing down to gawk but we can't help ourselves when we get the chance...and now I've perpetuated this further. OK, let's all move along...nothing to see here folks.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section. I shared this with RP - but it's issues like this where sometimes it's just better to call the poster an "idiot", let everyone move on, and get past it. Instead, here we are on page 4..... Mainly because you're still validating it with the desired response.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section. I shared this with RP - but it's issues like this where sometimes it's just better to call the poster an "idiot", let everyone move on, and get past it. Instead, here we are on page 4..... Mainly because you're still validating it with the desired response. I'm not addressing the poster - I'm addressing the site managers who shouldn't have let it get this far so hopefully this is the last time something this dumb sits on the forum.
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Speaking of inflammatory, how are you this morning, DPJ? Fighting the good fight, not letting the white man keep me down. Yeah, me too. Oh wait... Damn you, mirror! [sob]...I just wanted to be pretty...
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 For the love of God, someone please move this thread out of the Twins baseball section. I shared this with RP - but it's issues like this where sometimes it's just better to call the poster an "idiot", let everyone move on, and get past it. Instead, here we are on page 4..... Mainly because you're still validating it with the desired response. I'm not addressing the poster - I'm addressing the site managers who shouldn't have let it get this far so hopefully this is the last time something this dumb sits on the forum. I know, I know, but you did manage to slip in he's an idiot, which I think likely amuses him in so much that he gets off on eliciting that type of emotion. Someone should have just taken his original post and preceded it with this :shoot::shoot::shoot:.
one_eyed_jack Verified Member Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 This has to be the most absurd thread of the season. I'm struggling to think of one that even comes close. The one about Gardy's decision to take a couple of games off to attend his daughter's college graduation was pretty bad, but it pales in comparison to this.
The Greatest Poster Alive Provisional Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 This has to be the most absurd thread of the season. I'm struggling to think of one that even comes close. The one about Gardy's decision to take a couple of games off to attend his daughter's college graduation was pretty bad, but it pales in comparison to this. My #1 was the thread about how the Twins don't keep minorities around.
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Unlikely anyone really reads this post after seeing the feelings about it (I've avoided it myself till now), but instead of white people deciding what's racist against non-whites, how about we(I am white) let minorities decide what they are offended by. If this was truly an issue, Delmon Young or any other African Americans would be speaking out against it. Stop acting like you have a noble cause to defend someone and start treating them as you would individuals of the same ethnicity. People who are fully capable of defending themselves. If Bremer had said Thome was property, or however he had contexted it, no one would have said a thing. The problem is people are looking for some excuse to shout "Racist!" and think themselves higher of that person who slipped in an accidental "no-no". Why can't we treat Young the same as any other former white Twin? His color doesn't make him any more different than the personality he choses does. The white people who have a problem with this are really the ones that are truly prejudiced (which is the more appropriate term than racist for 95% of negative issues surrounding culture struggles).
darin617 Verified Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 By choosing to play professional sports you willingly enter a system where you are a product to be bought and sold. Calling an athlete the property of a team is no stretch, and comparing this concept of ownership to the ownership of slaves is asinine. This is a non issue and we're on the 2nd 50 post thread on the subject... I would loved to be "enslaved" and PAID for playing a game that everyone loves. Yes, players are treated as property by the owners and they can do whatever they want to you except not paying you for not doing anything wrong.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I'm not addressing the poster - I'm addressing the site managers who shouldn't have let it get this far so hopefully this is the last time something this dumb sits on the forum. The original thread popped up on a Saturday night, when we all happened to be busy. Detestable, I know. When John got home he posted a response and locked the thread. The next morning, someone starts a NEW thread continuing the topic, and now there's four pages of discussion on it. It's not our job to dictate what people talk about, only to moderate and keep things relatively clean. Obviously for whatever reason this is something people continually seem to want to discuss. I'm not sure why you're complaining about the site managers when you are the one that willfully made the decision to read through this thread despite knowing full well what you were getting into when you clicked on it.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 The original thread popped up on a Saturday night, when we all happened to be busy. Detestable, I know. When John got home he posted a response and locked the thread. The next morning, someone starts a NEW thread continuing the topic, and now there's four pages of discussion on it. It's not our job to dictate what people talk about, only to moderate and keep things relatively clean. Obviously for whatever reason this is something people continually seem to want to discuss. I'm not sure why you're complaining about the site managers when you are the one that willfully made the decision to read through this thread despite knowing full well what you were getting into when you clicked on it. I find it a bit odd that a forum trying so hard to clean up the content of exchanges also, at the same time, has no floor for what constitutes asinine nonsense. I'm sure many randomn fans dropping by think very highly of the content here when it's declared that "Bremer: Racist?" is worthy of discussion. But you do your own thing your lordship, far be it from me to point out something you might want to consider. Proceed.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I'm not addressing the poster - I'm addressing the site managers who shouldn't have let it get this far so hopefully this is the last time something this dumb sits on the forum. The original thread popped up on a Saturday night, when we all happened to be busy. Detestable, I know. When John got home he posted a response and locked the thread. The next morning, someone starts a NEW thread continuing the topic, and now there's four pages of discussion on it. It's not our job to dictate what people talk about, only to moderate and keep things relatively clean. Obviously for whatever reason this is something people continually seem to want to discuss. I'm not sure why you're complaining about the site managers when you are the one that willfully made the decision to read through this thread despite knowing full well what you were getting into when you clicked on it.It actually popped up last night (Monday)
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 It actually popped up last night (Monday) And then was renamed - but you're correcting him. He'll take that personally rather than listen to well-meaning advice. Best not to try.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 It actually popped up last night (Monday) And then was renamed - but you're correcting him. He'll take that personally rather than listen to well-meaning advice. Best not to try. I find it comical that they take the whole "this is a discussion worth having" while banning anyone who calls the OP an idiot, which he most certainly is. If only a certain "narf" figure could bring back some respectability to such a topic. We should put up the bat signal at ESPN/Rubechat.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I find it comical that they take the whole "this is a discussion worth having" while banning anyone who calls the OP an idiot, which he most certainly is. If only a certain "narf" figure could bring back some respectability to such a topic. We should put up the bat signal at ESPN/Rubechat. We're getting in the way of an intellectual discussion on whether Dick Bremer is a racist Dave. Let's let that high quality content resume - back to the subforums!
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Have we all overreacted enough yet? I think we're done now, don't you think?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Okay, I'm calling this. It's gone to the point of ridiculous and honestly, if you have a problem with the way any of us moderate this forum, show enough backbone to PM us about it instead of resorting to theatrics. I expect better of so many of the posters in this thread. Topic closed, now shut the hell up.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 To be clear, I've never said anything remotely resembling "this is a conversation worth having." On the contrary, my first comment on this thread, verbatim: "I'm not sure why this conversation needed to continue." My feelings about the topic are not at issue here, what is at issue is your hypocritical complaining about a pointless, meandering thread that you click into again and again and again to complain about, thus adding to the irrelevant BS. Yes, I'm going to take it personally when you blatantly mischaracterize my position as being supportive of this topic when I've clearly demonstrated the opposite. I know you guys took pride in the "elitist" atmosphere at BYTO where anyone deemed less intelligent or "asinine" was shunned and ridiculed (a great way to encourage new users, BTW), but that's not how the moderators here operate. This thread – a continuation of a discontinued thread – happens to be one of the most viewed on the first page of the forum, so whether it's the train wreck effect, morbid curiosity or who-knows-what, people keep clicking in and commenting. I don't consider it my duty to shut down every topic I find silly; this is a community and therefore it is the duty of the community to ignore such threads and let them drift off into oblivion, rather than having little back-and-forth snarky whine sessions. I can't emphasize enough how easy it is to simply not click on or respond to a topic you find worthless. With that said, you guys have made it painfully clear that there's nothing else to be gained from this thread it's been locked. Next time someone wants to start a conversation about a serious issue like race, please make sure there's a worthwhile starting point.
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