Gardy rumors

[Badsmerf]

Gardy will have the young guys playing so good, a 3-1 series win is set in stone.

 

In all honesty, I forgot about the final four games being against Detroit. I'm new to snarky comments - I'm not usually that guy. I'll need to practice.

I'm sending you to the minor league board to sharpen your skills.

[Platoon]

I agree with this comment. A year ago, I defended keeping Gardy on because I really thought (and still think) that last September may have been the valley, the low point in terms of talent on a roster for the Twins. This year's record will be about the same as last year and yet there are more reasons for optimism going into next year because Santana, Vargas, Arcia and May are getting playing time and Buxton, Sano and Meyer are still coming. 

 

My support for keeping Gardy isn't so much about agreeing that he's absolutely the right guy to bring along the young players, but about people making some assumption that change is good just because change is good.

 

The Braves firing Frank Wren is ridiculous. He's done the job well for a long time and now they're going to replace him with someone who likely isn't any better. Why? Seems like change for change sake. 

 

If the Twins keep Gardy, I won't necessarily agree with that choice but I won't be upset. If they let him go, I won't be upset and yet I won't expect the next manager to be the reason that the Twins improve either.

 

But therein lies the problem, if the twins are going to be any good at all, it is with a relatively young lineup. He never has seemed comfortable with young players. He likes 30 ish year old middle of the road vets. I am not sure he would even understand or be able to handle a big stud with an attitude. So if he isn't the guy to brings long go younger players, then that combined with the 4 90's, and the completely miserable post season record are enough reasons to move on. Lastly, ideas like 3 catchers, bring Bartlett north, and virtually refusing to audition young players for next year should be enough to tip the scale. When you have the record after the all star game that the Twins have, fielding a "competitive" team against contenders might just include playing someone other than the ones who got you to where you are in the first place.

[Platoon]

Gardy will have the young guys playing so good, a 3-1 series win is set in stone.

 

In all honesty, I forgot about the final four games being against Detroit. I'm new to snarky comments - I'm not usually that guy. I'll need to practice.

If you want lessons, let me know,,, I can snark with the best......

[drjim]

Seems buzz on twitter from local guys is all about Gardy coming back. Oh goody.

[bird]

This team is run by the PR Department so they'll do whatever they think will sell. Making money is what they worry about and winning games only comes after making money.

I have to respectfully say that I think this is complete hogwash. If this team was run by PR people, they'd have competent PR people. This organization is a Carlson School of Management case book study on how NOT to conduct a PR strategy.

 

The money part? Well duh.

[D. Hocking]

I'm sending you to the minor league board to sharpen your skills.

Don't you think at some point though someone needs to learn how to snark at the big league level?  Wouldn't the end of a losing season be a good time to test someone in the big league instead of the minors where you do not need any subtlety or finesse with your snark?

[jokin]

So at least a split in the four games remaining with them is a done deal?  Maybe I'll watch after all.

 

Wow.  The "Gardy Stays or Gardy Goes" series?  This is going to be some compelling, edge of our seats stuff this weekend.....

[jokin]

Don't you think at some point though someone needs to learn how to snark at the big league level?  Wouldn't the end of a losing season be a good time to test someone in the big league instead of the minors where you do not need any subtlety or finesse with your snark?

 

Yeah... but just to be safe and in recognition of protecting the integrity of the TD board, that someone is allowed no more than 25% of his posts to be snarky in September.

[Craig Arko]

I know not this snark of which you speak. Does it resemble a boojum? And are they good eating?

[D. Hocking]

I know not this snark of which you speak. Does it resemble a boojum? And are they good eating?

I believe on this board it is often like a big serving of ham.

[Craig Arko]

I believe on this board it is often like a big serving of ham.

Make it bacon and we'll talk turkey.

[LaBombo]

 I'm new to snarky comments - I'm not usually that guy. I'll need to practice.

If you want to attend snark boot camp, immersion school, and PhD honors program all rolled into one, then the Game Thread is the place you oughta be.

 

And fwiw I had to look to see if my memory that they played the Kitties to close it out was correct.  That's how invested I am at this point.

[LaBombo]

Wow.  The "Gardy Stays or Gardy Goes" series?  This is going to be some compelling, edge of our seats stuff this weekend.....

Will follow the story as long as it doesn't clash with my weekend to-do list.

[LaBombo]

Make it bacon and we'll talk turkey.

That made me laugh so hard my ribs and eyes hurt.

[LaBombo]

I know not this snark of which you speak. Does it resemble a boojum? And are they good eating?

Despite having just eaten, this comment oddly made me hungry for a Snicker snack.   Funny how the mind works.  Well, my mind anyway.  Saved whoever would have added that last sentence for me the trouble.  You know who you are.

[Riverbrian]

I'm ready for a change... For the sake of change. I don't believe Gardy is a bad manager but I decided it was time for a change last year after watching August and September 2013!

 

Right or wrong... I was under the impression that players and coaches alike... Threw in the towel.

 

We can't have that... No matter the talent level.

 

Make the change... Bring me a Joe Maddon type... Out of the box thinker. A guy like that will know how to play Escobar, Santana and Hicks or Suzuki and Pinto or Parmelee and Nunez or whoever with none of them atrophying.

[USAFChief]

Don't you think at some point though someone needs to learn how to snark at the big league level?  Wouldn't the end of a losing season be a good time to test someone in the big league instead of the minors where you do not need any subtlety or finesse with your snark?

my nomination for post of the year.

 

Exceptionally well played sir.

[D. Hocking]

my nomination for post of the year.

 

Exceptionally well played sir.

Thanks (unless of course this is snark....)

[Platoon]

A question and point over which great minds may ruminate! Since it seems that the majority of the roster will return, and that sadly includes the starting pitching, (the bullpen can easily be tweaked), and this blog seems resigned to the return of the dugout crew, where will any improvement come from? I don't see improvement offensively from Dozier, Plouffie, Escobar, Suzuki, and Shaefer. In fact all will likely regress. History would say Mauer will have a better year. Hicks is truly a wild card. Santanna, Vargas and Arcia will improve offensively based on their recognition of the strike zone. As a whole this is not a good defensive bunch. So will we repeat the -90 mantra yet again? There is an old saying about doing the same thing over and expecting a different result........ Buxton and Sano? What are the odds they join the team while the season can be salvaged? Something has to change, the Twins need a manager who is flexible, innovative, and will emphasize fundementals. Until the Twins way includes the aforementioned, the term is but a tortuous reminder of what should be. To maintain the status quo, will be an insult to the intelligence of the same fans previous posters have assured us are indeed intelligent.

[The Wise One]

 

In completly unrelated news, Atlanta fired their GM Frank Wren, though the Braves made the playoffs in three of the last five seasons.

 

From the sound of it, making the playoffs but failing to advance past the first round was unacceptable to Braves leadership as was a run of spotty free agent acquisitions.[/quote.

How many bad upton contracts do they have it is still about money

[Physics Guy]

A question and point over which great minds may ruminate! Since it seems that the majority of the roster will return, and that sadly includes the starting pitching, (the bullpen can easily be tweaked), and this blog seems resigned to the return of the dugout crew, where will any improvement come from?

Dozier and Plouffe could show moderate improvement, specifically hitting closer to .270.  I agree that Escobar, Suzuki and Schaefer could be due for regression though Escobar is young enough that his improvement could be simply due to experience and playing time.  I don't know that Santana will improve, but I would be very happy to get the same production next year.  Mauer is clearly a candidate for improvement.  I think it's reasonable to expect (hope?) for a return to .800 OPS territory.  Vargas and Arcia have showed glimpses of talent and just need to find some consistency (learn how to hit offspeed pitches).  I still hold out hope for improvement from Hicks, though that hope is barely flickering.  The offense really wasn't the problem this year and there is still room for improvement.  Getting the team ERA around 4.00 is where we need to improve.

[ScrapTheNickname]

After 2017, when the Twins win the World Series, everyone will be thankful that Gardy is still our manager.

Do you wear a straw hat or sunglasses while you walk on the sunny side of the street? Tee hee.

[ScrapTheNickname]

Firing a manager is like cutting a player. It's painful for the one fired, but to the one hired it's a joy.

 

A door closes and a door opens.

 

Somebody had to go (retirement, albeit) for Gardy to come through the door.

 

Perhaps Gardy will find the door of his own accord.

 

Or perhaps he'll walk around in the dark room of 2015 looking, still looking for the door.

 

But the door is there, and it shall open.

[LaBombo]

Do you wear a straw hat or sunglasses while you walk on the sunny side of the street? Tee hee.

Well now we'll know who you're having for dinner, old friend...

[Badsmerf]

Don't you think at some point though someone needs to learn how to snark at the big league level? Wouldn't the end of a losing season be a good time to test someone in the big league instead of the minors where you do not need any subtlety or finesse with your snark?

We don't want to ruin his confidence with a snark gone wrong. Maybe next year after some consistent snarking he can come up and contribute to the snark at the mlb level.

[ScrapTheNickname]

It seems I'm late to this conversation, but I have a theory that Gardy wants to replicate the way he came in. That is, TK left after 2002 with the team up to win, and Gardy took the reins and voila he went on a run. Perhaps he would like to leave the team in that condition for the next manager.

[LaBombo]

It seems I'm late to this conversation, but I have a theory that Gardy wants to replicate the way he came in. That is, TK left after 2002 with the team up to win, and Gardy took the reins and voila he went on a run. Perhaps he would like to leave the team in that condition for the next manager.

The similarities are impossible to ignore.

[Physics Guy]

It seems I'm late to this conversation, but I have a theory that Gardy wants to replicate the way he came in. That is, TK left after 2002 with the team up to win, and Gardy took the reins and voila he went on a run. Perhaps he would like to leave the team in that condition for the next manager.

 

 

The similarities are impossible to ignore.

I've also wondered the same.  My guess is he doesn't want to leave with four straight 90 loss seasons.  Then again most managers aren't given the option.

[USAFChief]

I agree with this comment. A year ago, I defended keeping Gardy on because I really thought (and still think) that last September may have been the valley, the low point in terms of talent on a roster for the Twins. This year's record will be about the same as last year and yet there are more reasons for optimism going into next year because Santana, Vargas, Arcia and May are getting playing time and Buxton, Sano and Meyer are still coming. 

 

My support for keeping Gardy isn't so much about agreeing that he's absolutely the right guy to bring along the young players, but about people making some assumption that change is good just because change is good.

 

The Braves firing Frank Wren is ridiculous. He's done the job well for a long time and now they're going to replace him with someone who likely isn't any better. Why? Seems like change for change sake. 

 

If the Twins keep Gardy, I won't necessarily agree with that choice but I won't be upset. If they let him go, I won't be upset and yet I won't expect the next manager to be the reason that the Twins improve either.

 

If the Twins open 2015 with Gardy, and aren't immediately successful, I hope you're prepared for the conversation from every media outlet from TD to opposing team newspapers to MLBNetwork to be about the Twins managerial situation. That will be the discussion, pretty much every day, until the Twins are either forced to fire him, or defend those kinds of questions, about a lame duck manager, almost every day.

 

That's not going to be pretty. I have difficulty imagining Gardy getting another contract...would you agree? If not, what's the point of going through that next year?

[DJL44]

But the door is there, and it shall open.

 

I dunno. Lohse really beat the hell out of the doorknob.