Trade Dozier, Now!

[iTwins]

I disagree with the premise that his value will never be higher and I completely disagree that it would be better for the Twins to sell now.

 

As mentioned before, his BABIP and K% both point to his average being a bit lower than it should be at this point. He's a low cost player with years of team control and the numbers he is posting now (which are still solid) may actually be a bit low. His value absolutely could be higher.

 

Second, I'm not so ready to hand the gig over to Rosario, Polanco or any of the other candidates. You risk creating another void in the middle infield after FINALLY finding someone who can perform above average. Yes, we've seen a great season from Escobar, but I still think he's a very good utility player on the next contending Twins team and I have even less faith in Nunez ever being a fulltime second baseman.

 

Dozier is exactly the type of player the next contending Twins team needs. He's young enough and under team control for long enough to be a part of the next contending team. Trading him now would delay the rebuild, in my opinion.

[mudcat14]

Alright.  Here's my primary beef with Dozier.  He's 27 years old with nearly 1400 AB's under his belt, yet he can't seem to get it through his thick hair that his job is to facilitate runs, not yank homers.  Yes, he can jump all over the ball up & in.  But everyone knows it now.  He gets a steady diet of pitches out over the plate and still tries to turn on everything, even with runners in scoring position!  It's happened repeatedly all season and I'm done.  .280 with half the HR's & K's, he'd be my favorite player.  But as he is now, can't stand him!

[Brock Beauchamp]

Alright. Here's my primary beef with Dozier. He's 27 years old with nearly 1400 AB's under his belt, yet he can't seem to get it through his thick hair that his job is to facilitate runs, not yank homers. Yes, he can jump all over the ball up & in. But everyone knows it now. He gets a steady diet of pitches out over the plate and still tries to turn on everything, even with runners in scoring position! It's happened repeatedly all season and I'm done. .280 with half the HR's & K's, he'd be my favorite player. But as he is now, can't stand him!

Dozier needs to be the best player he can be, not a slap-happy oppo hitter just because Gardy has a chapter in his book titled "Play Second, Hit Second".

 

Should Dozier try to pull every ball? No, probably not... And I doubt he continues to try, as his best months came when he wasn't an extreme pull hitter. Sometimes guys go into slumps. It doesn't mean the league figured them out. It means they're in a slump.

[Mr. Brooks]

Alright.  Here's my primary beef with Dozier.  He's 27 years old with nearly 1400 AB's under his belt, yet he can't seem to get it through his thick hair that his job is to facilitate runs, not yank homers.  Yes, he can jump all over the ball up & in.  But everyone knows it now.  He gets a steady diet of pitches out over the plate and still tries to turn on everything, even with runners in scoring position!  It's happened repeatedly all season and I'm done.  .280 with half the HR's & K's, he'd be my favorite player.  But as he is now, can't stand him!

 

You mean like leading the league in runs scored? Yeah, that would be Brian Dozier. 

[Platoon]

Dozier must have been reading TD, he just singled. His second hit in his last 28 AB's. (Per Bert). I doubt you can have a .280, 20 HR version of Dozier. He does not have the natural power to do both. He can up his average by spreading the ball around, but there goes the HR's. Or he can keep jerking everything, and if they keep throwing him stuff up and in, he can get his 20. In either scenario, if he is hitting above the 6 hole it's an indication that your teams offense is not going to be anything to get to excited about. The caveat is #2 but he really doesn't fit that slot well. He would have to reinvent himself as the .280 Dozier. The good news: he is a very solid second baseman, makes all the plays and more, and doesn't seem to take a play off. And should easily be in consideration for best hair in the AL.

[RedBull34]

 And should easily be in consideration for best hair in the AL.

You rang?

[snepp]

*swoon*

[snepp]

And no, no trading Dozier, I like him too much.

[Thegrin]

Trade Dozier ? The goal for every hitter is to produce runs. Dozier produces more runs than any other Twin.  I doubt any team can trade us a player that will be equal to what Dozier does for the Twins.

... and next year Dozier will be better 

[beckmt]

I think the trade route should be explored in the offseason.  At the current rate Dozier is going to equal Brandon Phillips, a very good, but not great player.  I think if you could bring back a decent starter or outfielder plus a prospect, you have to look at the deal. Clubs have holes and in the offseason you could find out what he is worth(that does not mean automatically trading him), but in the Twins current state you have to listen.  Sano and Buxton will probably not be here until 2016 and Twins will probably not be competitive until 2017.  By that time he will be getting expensive(check Brandon Phillips contract).  Young cheap pieces should bring very decent returns.

[RedBull34]

I think the trade route should be explored in the offseason.  At the current rate Dozier is going to equal Brandon Phillips, a very good, but not great player.  I think if you could bring back a decent starter or outfielder plus a prospect, you have to look at the deal. Clubs have holes and in the offseason you could find out what he is worth(that does not mean automatically trading him), but in the Twins current state you have to listen.  Sano and Buxton will probably not be here until 2016 and Twins will probably not be competitive until 2017.  By that time he will be getting expensive(check Brandon Phillips contract).  Young cheap pieces should bring very decent returns.

Unproven Nick Franklin just headlined a deal for Price.  A "decent" starter would never cut it for Dozier.  I realize that there were other pieces involved but Dozier is more valuable than anybody that was involved in that deal.

 

In other words, unless the Cubs offer Russell & C.J. Edwards (or any team with a similar deal), I pass.

[RedBull34]

I would think about trading Escobar before trading Dozier, because then at least it would bring Santana back to SS.  I realize Escobar would not yield as much, but he would be a hell of a utility guy for a playoff team.

[Paul Pleiss]

In the words of Jesus Quintana (Big Lebowski) "What's this bull****? I don't ****in' care! It don't matter to Jesus. But you're not foolin' me, man. You might fool the ****s in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This Bush-league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man – ha ha!"

 

Trading Dozier is impossibly silly.

[howeda7]

No. Just no. The most you would get is a couple prospects, one of whom might one day be as good as Brian Dozier.

[Reider]

I believe that the Twins should listen to all trade proposals, but I do not believe in trading Dozier right now for the sake of trading him away, just to get "something" in return. It makes zero sense. At some point, if the Twins want to win games, they need to keep good players around. Dozier is still fairly young and a good baseball player. He could be a key piece to a future winning baseball team.

 

I understand the Twins trading away a guy like Willingham or Correia, but Dozier? No. I really like the way Dozier plays the game and I'd rather just keep him on the team and see how the team comes together over the next few years.