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Didn't Polanco NOT cover 2nd base on a routine play?

 

This might be splitting hairs, but: I believe the issue was that he didn't force the runner back towards first during the rundown. He should have run the runner back towards the bag, but instead made an immediate throw to Dozier - which resulted in the rundown collapsing. In the end, your premise is still valid though. He's a bit rough around the edges and could use a little more practice in the lower levels.

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Didn't Polanco NOT cover 2nd base on a routine play? Doesn't that show he needs to work on the basics of shortstop defense? He needs more instruction and time in the minors. The major league roster is NOT the place for learning basic defense. He may certainly have a future with the major league club, but the future is not now.

 

I thought I remember thinking this too...but maybe not? Do you recall which play?

 

I know in the rundown that caught Adrian Beltre off of 1st...but that was Esocar or the Pitcher not coming in behind him at 2nd. Not a great throw and he needed to run Beltre down a little closer to 1st...but nonetheless, would have been fine if someone had been backing him up at 2nd base.

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Is there any chance Arcia gets sent to Rochester? He's a complete mess at the plate. I don't know that running him out there night after night is the best thing for him or the organization.

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May is on the DL

 

Since I saw the comment on the first page, I thought it was made before May was announced on the DL. As my grandma used to say, I stand corrected.

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May is on the DL

 

Since I saw the comment on the first page, I thought it was made before May was announced on the DL. As my grandma used to say, I stand corrected.

 

Only until July 3. They could send Pino down tonight and call him up for Saturday's game

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Is there any chance Arcia gets sent to Rochester? He's a complete mess at the plate. I don't know that running him out there night after night is the best thing for him or the organization.

 

Replaced by whom?

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Replaced by whom?

 

As long as they're calling up young guys, how about Kepler?

Just kidding.

 

If Arcia goes to AAA, the "outfielder" coming back up would have to be Herrmann/Colabello or Hicks, who's actually an outfielder, but probably least likely to be called back up now of those three.

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Rosario's not on the roster, but I can see him being part of the CF plan by the end of the month.

 

Has he been playing outfield or 2nd base in NB? Either way, he is very likely going to be in the conversation very soon.

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Mostly OF, with some 2B, I believe, for Rosario so far. I keep hoping he will be ready to be up soon. They have zero OF right now, since the LF can't field, the CF can't hit, and the RF struggles with both.....so I keep hoping Rosario is ready soon.

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Mostly OF, with some 2B, I believe, for Rosario so far. I keep hoping he will be ready to be up soon. They have zero OF right now, since the LF can't field, the CF can't hit, and the RF struggles with both.....so I keep hoping Rosario is ready soon.

 

You and me both. It is too bad he had his suspension or he likely would have already been up.

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You and me both. It is too bad he had his suspension or he likely would have already been up.

 

Yup. For the moment, I hope Rosario gets out of his mini-slump real soon. In his last 9 games:

 

4 for 36

 

.118/.167/.118/.285

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And it is also too bad Buxton has been hurt, otherwise he might already be manning CF. But no sense in crying over spilt milk as they say. :cry:

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And it is also too bad Buxton has been hurt, otherwise he might already be manning CF. But no sense in crying over spilt milk as they say. :cry:

 

The way it's going with Buck, it will be a major victory just getting him back on the field and not having lingering effects to the wrist.

 

It still hurts alot thinking of what could have been this year with multiple top ten prospects making their Twins debuts: Buxton, Sano, Meyer, Rosario, Santana, Polanco.

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This team does look a lot different even if just Sano and Santana and Rosario don't have their issues. Plouffe would be your RF by now, Arcia would be in AAA or the DH, Santana would be your CF or SS, Rosario your CF or LF......and Sano your 3B. That is a lineup one can get interested in.

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Looks like it is official. Plouffe and Nunez are off the DL. Florimon and Polanco are back in the minors. No word to where Polanco is headed though.

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Looks like it is official. Plouffe and Nunez are off the DL. Florimon and Polanco are back in the minors. No word to where Polanco is headed though.

 

It's official, too:

 

To make room on the active roster, the Twins optioned Pedro Florimonto Triple-A Rochester and also optioned 20-year-old Jorge Polanco back to Class A Advanced Fort Myers.
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I was hoping he'd get sent to aa. I wonder what rational they used for this one. There was a minor leaguer not that long ago that skipped a level after a rehab stint, arcia maybe? Anyway, sending him down to single a is asinine.

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Fort Meyers? What do you need to do to get promoted by this organization?

 

More than outplaying the rostered SS in AAA, apparently.

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I was hoping he'd get sent to aa. I wonder what rational they used for this one. There was a minor leaguer not that long ago that skipped a level after a rehab stint, arcia maybe? Anyway, sending him down to single a is asinine.

 

I think he was sent back to the same level he was at to continue working with the same instructors/coaches that he was working with before the call up. I can only imagine that there were specific things they want Polanco to work on in Single A.

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I was hoping he'd get sent to aa. I wonder what rational they used for this one. There was a minor leaguer not that long ago that skipped a level after a rehab stint, arcia maybe? Anyway, sending him down to single a is asinine.

 

He looked pretty darn raw in the majors defensively, I think he showed some real nice flashes overall for sure, but I think the Twins know what they are doing with him and he will be promoted soon enough. (A lot of promotions usually happen right after the A/AA/AAA all star games for a good number of teams)

 

I give the Twins credit for sticking to their plan and not letting an extreme (but impressive) SSS change their plan of attack on his time line.

 

Keep in mind, once he is in AA (which will be sooner than later) he is really only a true phone call away from the majors.

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I keep reading that "only a call away" thing every year. But then, every year, I read that they need AAA experience, and they should not be "rushed" and need to "earn" it over other guys further up the chain. Afterall, Sano would have been in AAA, right? Don't forget, it is about money and other stuff, not just talent. I have a hard time reconciling those divergent opinions, frankly.

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I keep reading that "only a call away" thing every year. But then, every year, I read that they need AAA experience, and they should not be "rushed" and need to "earn" it over other guys further up the chain. Afterall, Sano would have been in AAA, right? Don't forget, it is about money and other stuff, not just talent. I have a hard time reconciling those divergent opinions, frankly.

 

Every situation is different. Sano IIRC before the injury was already being talked about by the org to be in the running for the opening day 3rd baseman.

 

I think the Twins have been more than willing to give anyone who has a chance to stick a shot at SS and CF this year, look no further then Santana who only had 100 PA in AAA before he was more or less given the chance to earn (and he did) an every day role. Hicks was another guy given a shot really quickly but unfortunately he feel on his face as many youngsters do.

 

It's baseball, every fan of every team always wants to see the prospects/future get called up ASAP, however I think the Twins by and large have done a pretty good job in how/when they call up guys to the majors. Of course there are exceptions where they kept guys down too long or brought them up to early (hicks) but overall I think they do a good job.

 

Let's also keep in mind that Polanco is only 20 years old at this point and while he has been solid at A+ he hasn't exactly been dominating the level. His .289/.363/.404 is nice and he will move up soon enough, but he isn't putting up 900+ OPS numbers etc

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Hopefully it is clear I don't think he is ready to be a MLB yet.....I certainly am not calling for that. I believe NB as no SS, and Polanco appears ready to be challenged by the next step in the process. I would like the org to push guys and challenge them, not make them "prove it for a long time" before promoting them. A delta in philosophy, really. I fail to see the downside at this point, frankly.

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The way it's going with Buck, it will be a major victory just getting him back on the field and not having lingering effects to the wrist.

 

It still hurts alot thinking of what could have been this year with multiple top ten prospects making their Twins debuts: Buxton, Sano, Meyer, Rosario, Santana, Polanco.

You are so right. Is I just my imagination, or have the Twins had more than their share of injuries, compared to other teams, during the last 4-5 years?

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You are so right. Is I just my imagination, or have the Twins had more than their share of injuries, compared to other teams, during the last 4-5 years?

 

Well the Rangers this year might be worse than the Twins over the last 2.5 years, but the 2011 experience will really stick in the memory bank for a long time to come. The data that I remembered looking at covered the average days lost to DL for the years, 2010-2013, and believe it or not, at the major league level anyway, the Twins were actually the 8th healthiest.

 

http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/4seasons.jpg

 

 

I think the major league health issues for the Twins have been magnified by the lack of depth options on the 40-man roster, so it might seem like more injuries than are actually taking place. Of course, this year's and last year's losses in the Twins minor leagues are near-catastrophic...Meyer, Sano, Buxton, Rosario, Zach Jones, Michael, Landa, and possibly Fernando Romero...immediately come to mind, I'm sure there are a lot more.

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