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Who Says No To The Athletic's Proposed Twins Trade For Alonso - I DO!

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The Athletic just published an article about "FIve Trades I'd Like To See" before the MLB trade deadline. One of them involved the Twins trading for Pete Alonso:

Twins get: Pete Alonso

Mets get: Alex Kirilloff, David Festa, Luke Keaschall

I for one would be very irritated if the Twins made this trade. Let's start with what we get. Pete Alonso is a great hitter and would be a great fit in the middle of our lineup for the next two or three months. After that, he is going to a high revenue team for 2025 and beyond, most likely returning to the Mets. He likes it there, he likes New York, and it's only a matter of whether they will pony up the money. If the Mets won't pony up the money, another East Coast team will. I have to think the Yankees are looking for a first basemen for next season given Anthony Rizzo's struggles. Alonso is the very definition of a short term one season rental. And that's before we think about whether ownership would be willing to part with the about $8 million he still owed for the rest of the 2024 season.

Now let's think about what we would give up. I am down on Kirilloff as are many others, but he still has high end upside. I wouldn't mind using him as part of a trade given his redundancy with Larnach and Wallner (I think Miranda has won the first base job starting next season unless he falls off the table), but not when you have to give up two quality pieces to go with him. Festa is probably our best starting pitching prospect and certainly the one closest to the Majors. Keaschall is only 21 and looks to have some real upside in the middle infield. That's important when we remember that Correa is only going to be the starting SS for another 3-4 years, when he will age out. Lewis' knee injuries probably leave him at 3B for the foreseeable future. Lee or Keaschall may be the Shortstop starting in 2026 or 2027. Way too big a package for two or three months of Pete Alonso, way too much. I might give up one of the three as long as it wasn't Festa plus a less heralded prospect or two like Schobel or Rosario, but not the three listed. 

My conclusion is this is classic clickbait from a New York homer wanting to improve his team. What say each of you?

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Patzky

Patzky 9,263

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On 6/17/2024 at 4:08 PM, chpettit19 said:

While I still believe the Twins need a big bat for the heart of their order, I'm not trading Keaschall for a rental. 

I'm also higher on Keaschall than most other prospects from the 23 draft.

chpettit19

chpettit19 23,687

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17 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

well, let's calm down a little on Keaschall: he's having a fine season and looks like a legit prospect, but he's not a global top 100 prospect. 

but under no circumstances are the Twins trading Festa in a package for a rental bat. This is a deal that looks awesome for the Mets and crap for the Twins, which is a classic Jim Bowden special. Dumbass ideas like this is why he's not in anyone's front office now and likely never will work in baseball again.

Baseball America has him at #66, and based on Fangraphs article on their top 100 about a month ago he'll be on theirs when they do their mid-season update. So, according to at least 2 lists, he is a global top-100 prospect.

jmlease1

jmlease1 15,285

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5 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Baseball America has him at #66, and based on Fangraphs article on their top 100 about a month ago he'll be on theirs when they do their mid-season update. So, according to at least 2 lists, he is a global top-100 prospect.

I take midseason updates with a HUGE grain of salt, I will admit. jumping a player that they clearly had well outside their top 100 into the top 75 based on half a season? I mean, great for us if it's true but that's still hasty IMHO.

And if keaschall really is getting on to prospect lists like that then this proposed trade just gets dumber and dumber.

jkcarew

jkcarew 8,312

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1 hour ago, jmlease1 said:

well, let's calm down a little on Keaschall: he's having a fine season and looks like a legit prospect, but he's not a global top 100 prospect. 

The only reason he wasn’t a top 100 is that he was just drafted last year, and he wasn’t drafted in the first round. The top 100 is always going to be made up of ‘demonstrated’ minor-league outperformers (including the international players)…with a smattering of the recent year’s first-round picks.

Keaschall has done nothing but rake since he showed up…and continues to rake and demonstrate great control of the strike zone after the promotion to AA. He’s EXACTLY the type of guy who breaks into the top 100 every year.

jkcarew

jkcarew 8,312

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It’s a comical proposal for a rental…and one who is merely good, not great.

beckmt

beckmt 2,128

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For you that do not realize it, the New York Times and the Athletic are one entity, the Athletic is the sports department for the New York Times.  This is where the bias comes from. 

arby58

arby58 3,616

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5 hours ago, FanSince1961 said:

Bowden is a clickbait hack.  No one should take him, or his ideas, seriously.

Agree - and the trade doesn't really make sense for the Mets either. They are 8-2 in their last 10 games and are 1 game out of a wild card spot. Why would they trade a proven MLB bat for minor leaguers in the middle of a play-off race? 

thehagebaks

thehagebaks 0

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No way. Are they nuts? For a rental?

 

Trov

Trov 4,797

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No way do you trade a pitching prospect for a rental first baseman that really would DH more than play first. He is a negative defender.  Also, his offense this year overall is not that much better than who we have at first, Carlos Santana. Giving up a pitching prospect for that is crazy.  You need so many pitchers over a season and over years due to injuries that losing a guy you should have in and out of rotation for 6 years for a possible tiny upgrade is a no for me.  

I would be fine with AK and one lower level prospect that is not a pitcher. The main issue is I just do not feel Alonzo is enough of an upgrade at first or DH to give up much for him. 

MMMordabito

MMMordabito 5,655

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What? A website generated a clickbait article leading up to the trade dealine?

Don't we get one of those every other day at this site.

Fatbat

Fatbat 3,179

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It would be moronic to trade away our future stars. Falvey has issues but giving up guys on the cusp of the MLB show is not going to happen after he gave away CES and Steer.

Fatbat

Fatbat 3,179

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Can we trade Margo for Noah Miller?  I hear he is finding his bat….

RpR

RpR 3,665

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3 hours ago, Fatbat said:

Can we trade Margo for Noah Miller?  I hear he is finding his bat….

Trade Wallner or Julien.

Steve Lein

Steve Lein 4,237

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Wanna know who I think is one of the most overrated players in the league?

Pete Alonso, LOL.

I'd trade a lottery ticket for him as a rental (think Spencer Steer or Christian Encarnacion-Strand), that's about it. Definitely not someone on a top-100 list, which is both Festa and Keaschall. Putting them both in one deal is just insanity. I also don't think the Mets will be sellers, or most of the NL for that matter. There's only 2 teams that aren't within 1.5 games of the wild card (Rockies and Marlins).

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