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Never enough starting pitching is confusing with the Twins in that it is rare they let any starter go past 4 or 5 innings. None of the pitchers mentioned coming back from injury move the needle much. The top 3 are good place to start. After that winder, Dobnak, and Ober don't move the needle at all.
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Dodgers 10, Twins 3: Joe Ryan Bullied by L.A's. Bats
Whitey333 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What can you say? Dodgers 10 Twins 3. Twins totally outclassed and outplayed. Rocco's handling of pitching staff has been baffling all year. A totally expected loss. But the team could have showed up. Meaningless homer by Buxton late in game. Another blowout Wednesday is likely.- 48 replies
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Identifying the Twins’ Top 3 Weaknesses
Whitey333 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
One area of weakness not mentioned was field manager Robocop Baldelli. Probably one of the poorest managers in all of baseball IMO. You recently had the game against the blue jays where he sat out both Buxton and Correa on the same day. Today, Tuesday against the Dodgers because they are pitching a lefty Arreaz is not in starting lineup. He just went 6 for 10 in his past two games and you sit him? Get serious. The lefty/lefty thing is strange in that you have one of the best hitters in all of baseball but you are telling him he is not good enough to play against lefties? Rocco always plays Kepler against lefties yet Arraez has a career 50 points higher lefty/lefty average than Kepler. Very strange. Rocco has not much feel for the game and is terrible at in game management and sticking to the game plan even when it's not working. In the end Rocco will cost the team a playoff spot. He's already lost a number of games this year. I vote lack of veteran performance and field manager as the biggest weaknesses.- 43 replies
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Where Did the Good Carlos Correa Go?
Whitey333 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
There we go again. Comparing Correa to Simmons? Come on. And NO his 35mil has largely been a waste this year. He is taking up 40% of teams payroll. It certainly is understandable to expect more from someone coming here with a superstar status. In my opinion he's been a big dissappointment. Good or bad it looks more and more like he will opt in for next year to stay with the Twins. Who's going to pay him big money with the year he is having? Unless of course he gets hot and do what he was supposed to be doing. Carrying the team to playoffs. -
Identifying the Twins’ Top 3 Weaknesses
Whitey333 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Excellent article!! You pinpointed the holes in the team very well. The pitching has been atrocious. The bullpen has 22 losses tied to it. The starters have one of the highest ERA's and amongst the fewest innings pitched in baseball. But to me the biggest problem has been the lack of production from veteran players. Buxton is always injured and when he plays he's not very good. Granted he has 26 homeruns but that's about it. His average is terrible and strikeout rate is alarming. Oh yes he's injured so his poor production can be blamed on that. This year it is his knee. Correa has been the biggest negative. He started the year ok but I would argue he hasn't been worth 35 million. He is overly babied by the manager. Kepler has been awful most of the year. Polanco is doing good. One of the few veterans that appears to want to be in the lineup every day. The young players on this team are the ones holding the team up. They are the reason we are in contention not the veterans. Correa has been a joke most of the season. I hope he doesn't opt in for next year. That money could be used to upgrade other areas.- 43 replies
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Yes a bad call but let's not overdue it here. That didn't cost the Twins the game. It was starting out with a very questionable lineup. Even though Buxton and Correa have sucked for about 6 weeks, you can't leave both of your supposed superstar players out of the starting lineup on the same day. That has happened too many times this season. What kind of signal does that send to players and fans? That you have no interest in competing? Someone needs to remind Rocco that we are in a pennant race. Poor baseball, lack of clutch hitting, and poor baserunning doomed the game well before that play at home. There's a built in day off Thursday. Correa has no business sitting out as well. He may not have done anything anyway but at least show that you care.
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Yes a bad call but let's not overdue it here. That didn't cost the Twins the game. It was starting out with a very questionable lineup. Even though Buxton and Correa have sucked for about 6 weeks, you can't leave both of your supposed superstar players out of the starting lineup on the same day. That has happened too many times this season. What kind of signal does that send to players and fans? That you have no interest in competing? Someone needs to remind Rocco that we are in a pennant race. Poor baseball, lack of clutch hitting, and poor baserunning doomed the game well before that play at home. There's a built in day off Thursday. Correa has no business sitting out as well. He may not have done anything anyway but at least show that you care.
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Questionable call? Yes it was. It was a very surprising in call due to the lack of evidence and almost never is the catcher called for illegal blocking even in obvious cases. Rocco was right to argue and his comments after the game, partly fueled by growing frustrations, I'm sure will cost him a substantial fine. But it's a little stretch to blame the loss on that. Twins did a great job coming back in a game that at the start was going to be a blow out win for the Jays. They just, again, couldn't get clutch hits in key situations. It's a little convenient to blame the loss on that one play at home. A call that was amateurish at best. But that is major league umpiring as a whole: amateur
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I agree with you. Not sure about Strotman but Pagan has been terrible. Then we can send Rocco out with Pagan. I know that's not going to happen. Looks like a b team lineup again today at home. No Buxton, No Correa, some players playing out of position. They have tomorrow off they don't need two days off in a row IMO. Although I must admit they have both been terrible anyway for the past 4-5 weeks. Looks like a Toronto blowout today. I notice they thought the game was important enough to have their regular players in
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Great article! I agree with your listings. On the not hot list Byron Buxton must be close. But being a pert time player for 7 years is hard to classify him as a regular. Sanchez is awful, Jeffers when he isn't injured is just ok. Not great. The great Correa has been a major disappointment to me this year. Maybe I expected too much from a superstar. Maybe I expected too much from a 35 million per year player. Maybe it's realizing we could have had several quality pitchers on the team that we are paying him for. I thought he would carry this team. He should be carrying this team. Instead this team is carrying him. Our young players have greatly outperformed Correa.
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I agree about Pagan. However now Lopez is probably not available for Sunday. Probably won't be needed as 4 inning Archer is pitching. Pagan is awful. And you are right, who wants him in there. He shouldn't even be on the team.
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Wow. Nice win. Bundy only went 4 in Innings paving the way for 6 relievers. Granted they didn't throw much individually but collectively was too much. Curious decision to use Lopez after throwing 30 pitches just the day before. Wasn't necessary with a 4 run lead. Makes him unavailable for Sunday when 4 inning Archer is starting. Leaves a bad looking bullpen available for Sunday. But you never know!?!? The young players have been carrying this team for a while. The great Correa and Buxton went a combined 1-8. They should be carrying this team but for the past several weeks their bats have been missing. Nice win twins. Great contributions from our younger players
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Nice to win one that looked like was going to be another blown game. On paper the next two games look difficult. We have Bundy with an ERA over 5 then 4 inning Archer on Sunday. Glad we won Friday because Saturday and Sunday look like tough matchups. Come on now, any time I see Bundy then Archer back to pitching it's guaranteed a heavy bullpen usage and likely blow out losses. Then we get to go play the Dodgers. Good thing is after that we have several winnable games with Angels, Royals, and Rangers
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Could Carlos Correa Opt Back in for 2023?
Whitey333 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Thanks for a well thought out and honest article about Carlos Correa. He has been a big dissappointment this year. He with our other " superstar" part time Buxton have been dragging the offense down for the past several weeks. People have been treating him like some kind of God that can do no wrong. Provus on radio broadcast gushes over the way he joins in with pitching conversations on the mound. So what. So do other players. Bottom line for me is I hope he does not opt to stay. The FO told us and demonstrated to us their repeated philosophy of going for bargain basement pitching citing in part budget concerns. Yet pay one guy $35 mil. Made no sense then and even less now with his mediocre play. I'm wondering if the option to return is Correa alone or if the Twins have a mutual option. I also find it ironic that the poorer he plays the more likely he opts in due to the huge salary. I know I'm in the vast minority here in saying I hope he doesn't opt in and the Twins reinvest that money in much more needed areas.- 88 replies
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It's always fun to see how people throw out names from the minors like they were hall of famers. Most of those players mentioned in our minor leagues will not make it to the big leagues much less stay there and be productive for the Twins. I too believe the FO was caught by surprise with how well they started out and have hung into first place. But it is obvious this team may or may not finish in first place but they are not a first place team. The trades should benefit us for a few years though. Remember this FO assembled this mess of a pitching staff this off season. They elected to go bargain basement and holding pitching salaries down because of the budget. But yet we're able to spend 35 mil on one player. He hasn't even done that well this year. We could have had some mu h needed established major league pitching for that 35 mil. If the goal has always been to compete in 2023 and 2024 they must do a better job this off season putting the major league team together.
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Thanks Duff for your years of service to the Twins organization. The writing has been on the wall lately. I'm hoping a national league team picks him up. I figured he wouldn't be back next year so I thought they would hang on to him through the end of the year. Pagan also needs to go. You can't trust him in any role. I believe he leads all a.l. relievers in home runs allowed this year. Rocco says he still has good spin rates and is missing bats. He's not missing too many. Rocco, as usual is missing the boat. Pagan needs to be DFA' d soon. Spin rates and missed bats mean absolutely nothing when the final result is you give up way too many homeruns.
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Tyler Mahle, Game One Starter
Whitey333 replied to Andrew Mahlke's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Interesting discussion. I think Mahle will be just fine. What is almost amusing is the assumption the Twins will even make the playoffs. They haven't been playing like a first place team for 2 months. Lots of injuries and our top offensive players have gone into hiding. The great Correa, he of the 35mil (money that could have been used to get some good pitching) has been missing in action for several weeks. As I have been saying since the season started. What will stop this team is the 5 inning starters and using 4 relievers nightly, and a manager that relies on his computer analytics and avoid common sense managing too much. Rocco in the end will be the downfall of this team this year.- 28 replies
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Blue Jays 9, Twins 3: Blue Jays Crush Twins
Whitey333 replied to Theodore Tollefson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wow what a terrible show for a sold out crowd. I imagine the many thousands that were there mainly for the concert won't be rushing to but Twins tickets anytime soon. I still applaud the trades. They were needed and will benefit the team for the next 2-3 years. Oh yes. Pagan can be blamed for giving up those runs. True the great, and lately invisible Correa, made an error but a good relief pitcher picks up hus team. Pagan is not a good relief pitcher. Arraez, Buxton, and Correa are hitting a combined 223 since July 1st. Yet everyone rightfully accuses our minor league bullpen of losing 22 games this year. Where are the people not analyzing the hitting. Thankfully we can get decent stats here at TD. The radio people seem very leery about any criticizing of the great Correa or Buxton. Provus will tell us all the time how great Correa is playing and how he is always involved in trips to the mound. Big deal. When is he going to play like a 35 mil player? Haven't seen it yet. It's getting late. This team has so many flaws. The bullpen is amongst the worst in all of baseball. Manager Baldelli is no better. -
Great moves by the Twins. Now if somebody can train Rocco how to use a pitching staff it may work out great. The starting pitchers need to regularly go 6-7 innings at this point in the season. If the philosophy is to only let your starters go 5 innings then I'm afraid the new additions may succumb to lower expectations for Mahle and burnout use for the new guys. Yesterday the Twins won 4-1 with Ryan pitching a very good game. Yet not even allowed to pitch 6 innings we wound up using 4 relievers. I view the trades as good not only for this year but for most for the years ahead. They gave up some prospects but none of their top ones. Grade B+. Not quite an A because we still have Correa who hasnt performed at a superstar status. We likely lose him for nothing after the season. Could maybe have replenished some prospect pool.
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Twins 3, Tigers 5: Big Day Ends in Loss to Tigers
Whitey333 replied to Sherry Cerny's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Pretty typical Twins game. Our core hitters are ice cold and have been for quite some time. I agree that Correa has been a big dissappointment considering his superstar status. He's had plenty of opportunities to carry the team. Buxton? What you see is what you get. He's been doing this for seven years. He IS injured all the time. Unfortunately he's not reliable and you can't count on him. It will probably won't change for the seven years remaining here. It's sad and frustrating. I do like the trades the Twins made. It may or may not help them win the division. But since they are under team control for a couple of years sans Fulmer, they can be part of the next playoff push.- 34 replies
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Did the Twins Plan to Fail this Offseason?
Whitey333 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Interesting article. The Twins have been dumpster diving for pitching during the Falvine regime. That's the way they function. And the results? You get what you pay for. Twins new this past off season they didn't have much of a pitching staff. The starters were ok early but what you see is what you get. Except for Ryan and Gray it's a losing crapshoot. My question has always been with the Correa signing. Why pay one guy that much money when you know you don't have the pitching to contend. I kept waiting for more significant moves and signings after Correa. I figured we would surround him with some other great players. During the shortened off season all we heard from the FO was that starting pitching was hard to find and too expensive. Then they sign one player to that much money? I like him but it seems the FO had no plan. Maybe they still don't. So now we have a huge asset in Correa that will likely leave after the season. We will have nothing to show for it assuming they don't trade him. Very strange plan to me. I will admit they have had a ton of injuries. Way too many and also way too many prospects underperform. Seems like they are in a tough position.- 27 replies
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Nice win against a very poor and depleted Tigers team. Twins need pitching and catching help. Not sure if Twins will pull off anything, or at least anything worth while. Way too many injuries. Plus our great prospects are either injured or underperforming or both. I hope Falvey and Company can figure out something to help a floundering team. That is their job isn't it? But we already hear the same excuses that everyone is looking for pitching. The problem in my opinion is the Twins didn't do nearly enough to upgrade the pitching this off season. Entering the season with such questionable starting pitching was fool hearty. And the short starts, either by design and/ or performance has put a huge strain on an already shaky bullpen. Let's go Twins. We need to sweep the Tigers. We have Toronto and the dodgers on the horizon.
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Have the Twins Seen the End of Miguel Sano?
Whitey333 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sano clearly has no place on this team now or the future. The strikeouts are alarming. For the few prodigious home runs he's hit and even the few games he's won with Homer's for the Twins, he just never seemed to adjust to situations. Where a sac fly or a single may have produced runs he was incapable of doing it. It was all or nothing for him. He should be DFA as soon as possible- 37 replies
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Week in Review: Between Rock Bottom and a Hard Place
Whitey333 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Nick, you always have such thorough well thought out articles. I always read your stories first. The Twins have a lot of flaws and holes not to mention the injuries. I don't want to mortgage the future either but is our farm system so great that it's the future? People need to be realistic. Most of the prospects in any organization are just that, prospects often over- hyped. -
I noticed the guy on the radio broadcast was saying the road trip was decent as the Twins went 3-4. Wow. How could anyone say the road trip was successful. Did they not notice that they finished the road trip 1-4 against good teams? It's been such a frustrating season. I'm not one of those that says we should be happy because of August we are in first place. I'm frustrated because even with all the injuries we should be way ahead of the others in the division. The pitching has blown so many games. It's frustrating watching such a flawed team flounder like a fish out of water. With Toronto coming in for four games this weekend the Twins need to either sweep or at least take 2 of 3 from Tigers. While we will be playing blue jays and then dodgers while the white Sox play royals in two series and rangers. I don't think the twins have the pitching to make it. For white Sox the next 2-3 weeks provide an excellent opportunity to bolt ahead in the standings if they take advantage of an easy schedule. If Sox don't then they could be done. Trade deadline? Like the team as a whole, I don't know what to expect. So many of their tradable assets are injured. Go Twins
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