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Those who come to Twins Daily are split on this topic. Falvey & Sons are tied to their guys in various ways and understandably still want to see a positive end result from "their" guys. A majority (slim perhaps) of TD posts agree with the idea of rolling it back and knocking on wood. Sometimes that works. The guys in Seattle and San Diego rarely let things roll. They attempt to address perceived weaknesses. A few folks on TD are wanting to see the Twins become more proactive in addressing various concerns with the roster. The sad part is we seem resigned to wait until March to see which players are still seeking a team. Other than the Cubs, the Twins will almost certainly begin 2025 with the largest payroll in either the AL or NL Central divisions. If three or four top free agents sign this week, there should be some real opportunities for transactions. Are the Twins prepared to act?
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The Twins will not have any difficulty whatsoever in reducing payroll to $130M or less. The challenge will be in creating deals that improve the team.
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This has been a thought in the past. One must be careful to remember that Minnesota and Los Angeles exist in different stratospheres financially, which means it is best to stay far away from examples that use the Dodgers practices when attempting to examine or suggest a plan for the Twins. Wish it were different.
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The idea for a significant trade could reach a peak this week. A key factor may be a couple of free agent signings. Just carrying forward a previous comment concerning the Red Sox, I would guess that Boston turns its attention to the trade market if they are unsuccessful in garnering a starting pitcher via free agency. Pablo Lopez, Ryan Jeffers, Chris Paddack, and a prospect (choice: Marco Raya, C. J. Culpepper, Cory Lewis) for Jarren Duran and Kyle Teel seems reasonable. Boston will hesitate at including Teel. The salary differences are rather large too, but Boston has money and was looking to pay big for a free agent starting pitcher in any event. Back this trade up by exchanging Brooks Lee for Jeferson Quero from the Brewers. The angst over the budget is relieved with the Boston transaction. Now the Twins are down a starting pitcher and a good bat behind the plate but at least there may be a little room to look for a veteran role player like Julio Iglesias or even Austin Hays.
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Frustrating to feel that Falvey & Sons are just going to sit on their hands even as we want to believe that some moves are imminent. There are so many opportunities to engage with other teams. Naturally, there may be constant conversations but the utter lack of movement is discouraging. In your plan above, I'm thinking you have Brooks Lee at AAA, which makes sense. Why not attempt to move Lee for Jeferson Quero? Both have questions hanging over their heads. Julien should have some value as well. Yes, he cratered last year but there are teams that could use a player like Julien and it sure seems like he has been pushed well behind any number of guys in the Twins organization. I'm guessing 5/$75M is enough to sign Kim. Doubt it is even considered though. Finally, If a couple more starting pitchers sign for unexpected teams, the value of Paddack and other starting pitchers goes up.
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FWIW, the current Twins roster is competitive. The win totals could vary from 76-88 next season. I can't see the team, as is, creating much buzz at Target Field, but the future is wide open.
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When the deadline deals were being discussed several years ago, I was rather pointedly opposed to acquiring Mahle because he was injured and I did not believe in him. When the trade was done I supported it in my online comments because it, at the very least, displayed an attempt to improve the team. There are trade suggestions I read that I disagree with now if they do not improve the team defensively. Yet, again, I'm really hoping that there is a deal of some type attempting to increase the talent on the team. No player is untouchable from their current roster. I'm only putting two prospects on my untouchable list, Jenkins and Keaschall. Somehow, Falvey & Sons need to do something.
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Among high income countries the U.S. spends the most by far but is dead last in outcome. The U.S. is the only high income country in the world that does not guarantee health coverage. Revenge killing is barbaric but is sadly an expected outcome as the U.S. continues to spiral downward in inequality across its culture. Health care as a determinate of rising up economically (hard to progress if you cannot see well enough to read and cannot afford glasses which is particularly a prohibitive issue for children) is huge. Health is the number one cause of individual bankruptcy and also a major factor in homelessness. I was flabbergasted that healthcare was virtually nonexistent as a topic in the 2024 elections. What happened? Having lived for at least two years in eight different countries (zero times in Europe) I have some first hand experience (including surgeries) with differing health care systems. One can only hope that the United States can emerge from its current sad state because the promise and potential remains great even as the overall trends in health care decline.
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Two guys who catch the ball being added to the roster seems better to me than most plans. As a pitcher it feels better to see EmRod in LF and Kim at 2B than the alternatives. Sure hope Miranda and Lewis can play the corners. I'm really hoping to see them improve but haven't seen much yet to support that wish.
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Controllable star power? Arizona wants a LH DH and doesn't have much money to spend and the Twins could use a really good glove in the infield. Make a call and a query on Jordan Lawler. The Twins could offer Julien, Gabriel Gonzalez, and Kaelen Culpepper in return and perhaps add Jorge Alcala. All reasonable options need to be explored.
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Seattle wants to win now. Perhaps you can substitute Castro for Topa or add (R. Lewis, Miranda, Castro, Topa for Miller, Ford). Seattle doesn't want to trade Miller or any pitchers but this really boosts their offense. The Twins still have Lee, Keaschall, Martin, Eeles, and others. I would advocate a quick signing of Jose Iglesias as a utility player for around $3M too. Additional moves should also take place. As others have said, a flurry of moves or nothing seems like the path. My vote goes to flurry.
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The A's signing Severino made Paddack more valuable (not too valuable but having some value).
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Sounds like death to 2025. Not sure you meant that or maybe you mean the front office decided on a group of players and you believe in those players ..... so roll it back and hope for better results next time.
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Perhaps the deals start with a gamble. Royce Lewis, Jose Miranda, and Justin Topa to Seattle for Bryce Miller and Harry Ford. Paddack can be traded for a young Dominican League or A level pitcher with some promise or maybe a useful bullpen arm (?-San Diego for Bryan Hoeing?). There are trades and opportunities but waiting has not served the boys in the office well in the past. Above all else the Twins need to get their names out there and while that may already be the case because we just don't know, the waiting game and scraps renewal program seems like a plan to fail. Chances need to be taken. Of course, the Twins like the current group of players. However, unlike many, I don't see rolling out the same crew as a viable plan to compete for the AL Central. Of course, one thing we can be sure of is that we never know.
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The Twins finished in 4th place in the AL Central in 2024. That was pretty much where their talent placed them. If the team is to improve their position in the division they either need a humungous pile of luck or they need to make some changes.
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The same old same old - it is impossible (for me) to understand how F & S operate. If the payroll is going to be below $140 million, one would think that this offseason there should be some transactions. Proactive is a better idea than reactive in March, but I'm just a fan. One would think that the price for starting pitchers just went up. Kansas City was proactive and with Luis Severino signing with the A's there must be a little bit of fidgeting in New York and a couple of other cities. Paddack should be easy to move but Falvey may still be thinking that the Sheriff is surely to return to 2019 status. Perhaps he also sees Vazquez being one weight room visit and yoga session from returning to his prime as well. Both players do have value. The question is how much and for whom. Perhaps more importantly, one has to wonder whether the team could be improved by making a bold move, one that could potentially backfire. The consensus on Twins Daily seems to be a roll back of the 2024 team. I'm ready for a roll of the dice with a significant number of trades. Call Seattle, Milwaukee, Arizona, Boston, Miami, and others. Stagnation is my fear for the Twins.
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The general idea this offseason should be to find a path towards acquiring players who improve the team for 2025. As such, no player is off the table. The return needs to justify the deal and it is possible for a trade to benefit both teams. The articles on Twins Daily merely lay out any possible scenario with looks at all of the players. A trade of Carlos Correa seems unlikely and if completed it seems less likely that the Twins would have more potential than competing with Correa at shortstop. I can only see a Correa trade working if the Twins follow it up with 4-5 additional moves. Buxton is also unlikely to get moved but it is possible. Despite Byron missing a third or more of every season his play generally is well worth the contract. The problem of an inadequate back up to Buck is on the Twins front office not BB. The market for pitching is always frantic and the price for Rtan and Ober should be a regular player who bats in the first half of a lineup. I totally doubt the Red Sox panic, but a deal for Jarren Duran has potential for Minnesota as one out there example. I would like to see both Joe and Bailey be Twins but it would be shocking to see either sign a long term contract with Minnesota. Both have bet on themsleves thus far, seem like they will continue to, and the Twins seem like a team unwilling to commit money at a time when the team is up for sale.
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Royce Lewis, Jose Miranda, and Justin Topa for Bryce Miller and Harry Ford might get Seattle's attention.
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Seems like a sideways move - prospects for prospects, involving teams likely out of playoff contention. Why would those teams look to trade their prospects? There may be competitive teams who see value in adding a Twins player to improve their chances for wins and return an MLB ready player who has not proven themseles yet and/or may be blocked by their current team. Conversations should be had with teams to exchange players who fit a need for both teams. Butler, Miller, etc. should be nearly impossible to acquire without a severe overpay (say Joe Ryan and Emmanuel Rodriguez for Mason Miller). I am skeptical, although it always worth the conversation.
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I'm not sure Arizona bites but this is an interesting idea. Can we substitute Cory Lewis or Marco Raya for Matthews? I would do this deal. It only costs the Twins about $4.1M (RJ-$4.7, WC-$6.2, CP-$7.5, JM-$22.5). Your follow up trade suggestion will be rejected by both Boston and myself. Casas has light tower power (think Wallner), and the Red Sox have placed a high price on their youngster. He is also brutal as a first baseman. Correa nixes that deal. Both Julien and Miranda would be better at first defensively and that is crazy to think about. The Twins need to upgrade their defense. Back to the post - The article is correct when it highlights that the Twins have benefitted from stability from the catching position. Changing things up would be proactive which many people oppose. Before removing either catcher from the Twins roster a catcher must be in hand though. Can't play baseball without a catcher. JD-Twins is right on with an idea to improve the catching situation. I would propose the Twins seek another young catcher as well because their organization is largely bereft of backstops. Just riffing off of the JD-Twins idea, perhaps Milwaukee can be enticed to exchange Jeferson Quero for a controlled young starting pitcher, SWR. One can only hope that the Twins don't wait out the market this time.
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There is slim chance that the Twins do much. They seem intent on repeating their 4th place 82 win season to me, but I have zero idea what the front office plan is for 2025. The deals I threw out may give way to far superior ideas, but the prospect cost is relatively slim in my moves. FWIW, I do these in reverse order. Teams may laugh at the suggestions as well. Julien (DH/infield), Alcala (rhrp), and two good prospects (Gonzalez-of, K. Culpepper-if) to Arizona for Jordan Lawler. R. Lewis, Miranda, and Topa (no prospects) all have solid value for Seattle, while Bryce Miller and Harry Ford return. Milwaukee receives Castro, SWR (controlled starter), K. Rosario (rh-of/DH) for Jeferson Quero and Devin Williams. The Twins might need to add here. Then the deal with Tampa (Vazquez, C. Soto (rhsp), Mercedes (of) for Yandy Diaz. Impossible to know what other teams value but I'm targeting gloves with high ceilings, a controlled sp, and a rh bat. I agree that the Twins are not likely to take any chances.
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A Fresh Look at Baseball: Vision for a Revamped MLB Schedule
tony&rodney commented on rogrulz30's blog entry in "And we'll see ya' ... tomorrow night."
I absolutely love Target field. What if there was a dome that came up out of the ground in brutal weather. The last decade of its existence, The HHH Metrodome was used about 300+ days each year. That place was a pile but on a windy day of 29 degrees F with sleet slanting down, it was sweet to slip into the Dome to watch Game 163 against the Tigers and be warm and dry. October in Minnesota can be nice enough but November .... no. -
Hard for me to judge Lopez (or other Twins pitchers for that matter) until there are a couple more gloves who are at least average or better behind him.
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tony&rodney replied to strumdatjag's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
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The frustration for many people (not all), including me, is that the Twins know this too. This is precisely why returning the same team doesn't seem like a plan. Trades need to be made. Some young players with talent need a little rope to learn and then produce. Above all, I'm an advocate for taking a couple swings at trades both small and large. Canha is a player I mentioned three years ago three years ago. The Mets won the bid (don't think Twins called). He isn't a guy we are looking to add this winter.
