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  1. If you read through the comments on these articles, I would bet the comments call out Rocco/FO over the players at least 2:1. Many people are blaming the Rocco for the slow start without discussing how the players are failing in their given opportunities. If you believe any Coach is going to publicly throw players under the bus, you too do not understand what it is to manage or coach a team. That is why it is such big news when a manager publicly calls out a player. Good or bad, managers and coaches are under no obligation to publicize their reasoning. To do so would potentially give away their decision making process and give advantages to other teams. I have no problem with people forming opinions. Heck, I am doing it right now. But constantly blaming Rocco without all the information... I don't think I would call those informed opinions. Also, if I am not mistaken, this team has either met or exceeded preseason win expectations almost every year with Rocco. Considering the amount of injuries the Twins have had, there is something to be said about that. IMO, the larger issue you are referring to is ownership. Their unwillingness to push this team to the next level is having a trickle-down effect on the entire organization. You could argue the FO is a main issue here too, except we do not know how many things they are trying to do get shot down.
  2. There are always a couple of these throughout the season. It feels worse because of the overall poor play so far.
  3. You obviously misunderstand and have never coached before. X's and O's during game situations are a very miniscule part of a coaches job. At the professional level, coaches and managers help with game planning, but also sooth egos, balance morale, judge effort, deal with personnel issues and a thousand other things we as fans have absolutely no idea of. I am not a Rocco apologist, but I am also not naive enough to blame the manager and coaching staff for the slow start when the only information I have is what I see on television or read as a third-hand comment from an unknown clubhouse source.
  4. Let me get this straight: Batters choose when to swing and what they swing at Pitchers have to execute on the mound Rocco is to blame. Nobody here has enough information to really say if Rocco is the right fit for this team. We generally can't speak to the value of any coach and how they "good" they are. We see decisions that may be questionable, but we do not know the reasoning for most of the decisions. How about we start holding the players accountable instead of blaming everyone but the players?
  5. Kaat's broadcasting career deserved more than two sentences in an article like this. I mean 7 emmy awards! He was a natural for television; I was extremely disappointed that the Twins couldn't keep him in the booth
  6. Considering things really can't get worse for him, saying things will improve is a little obvious, eh?
  7. Overreaction at the moment. Plain and simple. Be concerned, but stop feeding the end of the world narrative.
  8. The 1991 Twins started 2-9. Concern? Yes. Panic? Not yet
  9. I realize this comment will get smashed right now, but Rocco isn't responsible for the performances of Lopez, Wallner, Correa, Buxton, France. Starting Paddack was not really his call either (more FO). He didn't look good, but they needed innings from him today, so he was going to throw 80 pitches good or bad. The only thing I feel Rocco blew was keeping Ober in so long yesterday. He was sick, should never have gotten out of the 2nd inning. Pulling Correa/Buxton today was also wrong.
  10. In a bubble, I agree with the optics on pulling them. I did not listen to the postgame... was there any comment on the why they were pulled?
  11. Fire Rocco! Trade Buxton! Trade Correa! Trade Wallner! Trade Ober! Trade Lopez! Release Paddack! Release France! Release Vazquez! Burn Down Target Field! Move the team to Montreal! Sell the te.... wait a minute... that one doesn't fit.
  12. Your MLB leaders in runs allowed in 2025: 1) Paddack 9 2) Ober 8
  13. Imagine that... A team has injuries to it's backup shortstop, it's 3rd string shortstop, it's probably 4th string shortstop, (not including Willie Castro here), and we are concerned about lack of depth. Getting smacked by injuries is going to impact institutional health. If the team is playing 3rd and 4th string guys due to injuries, I expect there to be problems and losses. Brooks Lee doesn't get injured, there is no article here. If something happens to Correa, I think finding a no-hit, defensive first SS would be pretty easy and cheap.
  14. My one major decision issue I had this weekend was Ober. I thought he was left out there at least an inning too long. He was struggling right from the start. Tack on the knowledge that he was sick makes it look even worse. Slow starts seem to be common place in Minnesota. Correa, Wallner, Buxton... I am less concerned with the pitching, if the lack of offense continues, it is going to get very miserable around here very quickly.
  15. Splitting hairs here. Both are relatively upper end pitching prospects. Both will be given opportunities. All that matters is the MLB results.
  16. Probably another candidate for the title "needs a fresh start in another organization".
  17. Yet another example of a high ranking Twins prospect that suffered a serious injury having a major impact on their career.
  18. The Twins did not move Vazquez this offseason, I think that says a lot about how the Twins feel about this group of catchers. They are hoping that one of these three steps up to fill the 2nd Catcher spot next year, otherwise they will go out and sign the retread veteran next offseason.
  19. To all the people squashing a potential Jeffers extension, please look at the minors and tell me who will replace him. A healthy league average catcher is nothing to sneeze at. Because he has been mostly part-time, the mileage on his body is not as bad as it could be. I am not a huge fan of a over-long contract here, but something along the lines of 4/$55m with a loud team option or two makes sense to me.
  20. I think the Hunter comp is pretty solid. Obviously health is the key here, but a transition to a corner slot makes sense at some point (Walker Jenkins anyone?). Overpays on short-term contracts do not really hurt teams, including the Twins. The two points that really address the question at hand is how long does Buxton want to play, and will other teams value him more than the Twins (Kepler) at some point.
  21. I think the Correa prediction is one year too early. If Lewis misses substantial time again and Miranda butchers the position on defense, I can see the Twins proactively making this move in the offseason.
  22. Wow! Talk about overreactions to one lineup....
  23. I can't remember the last time this team had such a huge range of win possibilities. It would not surprise me if this team won 92 games. It would not surprise me if this team won 72 games. Questionable health of your stars and inconsistent performance from your youth is a bad combination. As the saying goes: everybody wins 60, everybody loses 60, its the other 42 games that make or break you. (We can thank LAD and CWS for ruining this quote).
  24. Poll of the day could be fun. Serious and not so serious questions. With health being the biggest hurdle for this team, it should be no surprise it is a bulk of the current conversation.
  25. Two years ago Miguel Vargas for the Dodgers played a large chunk of ST in the lineup when he was ordered by the Dodgers not to swing the bat. Players are regularly mic'ed up in the field during games. Tie games happen regularly. QB Russell Wilson got an at-bat a few years ago. Will Ferrell played for 10 teams on one day in 2015. Dodgers batboy Chico Herrera played OF for them for some televised ST games in 2020. Any discussion of the importance of wins and losses in ST is a nonstarter.
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