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Any potential light will only show up once ownership sells the team. The lack of sale is basically holding up any potential change, be it coach, FO, player signing or major trade. All other screaming at the wind aside, nothing of consequence will happen until that deal is done. The Pohlad's do not care about the team in any way unless it affects their checkbook. Wins are a byproduct to them.
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Don't Look Back in Anger
Twins GFP replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Considering this team does not have the capability to go out and spend $150m on a SP2, this is what you get. Like it, don't like it, teams that are hamstrung financially need to find lightning in a bottle where they can. Paddack wasn't brought in to be an SP1, he was expected to be an SP4. Same with Mahle. If either of them performed at or above expectations, the narrative would be different. They didn't. The team keeps looking. It is hard to say with any confidence the Twins did not get a below-value contract with Correa. The amount of team options alone on this deal for a player of his caliber is staggering. Taylor - Good Margot - Bad Bader - Good (so far, though Buxton has been healthy too) As much as every team tries, there is only one Tampa Bay organization. Personally I would rather see them take runs at guys like Mahle and Paddack, then sign Rich Hill. -
Until they truly give reasons for the big 6 to forego money today for money tomorrow, this will never be fixed. A major problem here is that while teams like the Dodgers are netting hundreds of millions of dollars per year, teams like the Twins are content to make $25-100m per year. The lower teams are still making money (either through cash or valuation growth) so they are content. You can blame us sheep for continuing to accept the status quo and shell out money.
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This issue is bigger than Minnesota. MLB as a whole is losing this generation. Game speed changes have helped, but they need to find a way to nationalize the youth game more. It is harder and harder for large, densely populated cities to support strong youth baseball programs. Lose the youth, lose everything. Tack on high prices for everything (do not compare this to football: 8 home games vs 81), a messed up national vs. regional viewing process, priority media coverage of the coasts and Chicago vs the league as a whole.... nothing new here, but still scary for the MLB future.
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Twins GFP replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am not sure the issue is due diligence. Looking at the totality of the tenure, it feels more like calculated risk. Look at Correa and Buxton. They got below market deals on these guys knowing there were health issues. They have made efforts to have capable backups (to varying levels of success). At the same time, when on the field, Correa and Buxton have generally been very good. Because of the financial limitations imposed on this team, I understand the need to take these sorts of risks. But when they don't work out 100%, and the wheels fall off in other areas, the optics look really bad. -
Don't Look Back in Anger
Twins GFP replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
eh... A strong upside pitcher does well (albeit in an extremely small sample size) after spending a few injury plagued years with the Twins. Mahle being successful shouldn't really surprise anyone, it just would have been nice to see the healthy version of him in Minnesota. -
Thirty years from now there will still be complaining on how the Twins messed up with Rooker. This is an extremely flawed argument that I am shocked people still try to claim. It really needs to be let go. These 20/20 hindsight articles don't really provide any new information, just more complaining and rehashing about how the Twins "messed up" by not being able to predict the future 5 years from now.
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I think this pretty much sums things up. It isn't a statement on whether Rocco is "good" or "bad", rather a statement on if he has the team. The downwards trend at the end of last year coupled with the slow start this year makes me question how much they are buying into what he is selling. Even the best managers/coaches need to move on from time to time. A few pieces not being discussed much in this process: 1) I believe Rocco's contract expires at the end of this year. How much of the sale process is impacting a potential managerial change and the money that goes with it? 2) Will a strong veteran coach want to take this team knowing that new ownership is on the horizon and there may be huge fundamental changes coming?
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My point had nothing to do with Keaschall's performance, rather the propensity to hijack discussions by changing the narrative from Keaschall to attacking Rocco... which is what this is. I am not defending or attacking Rocco, but the constant Rocco bashing (with no real proof that Rocco is the primary reason for the team losing) on every article, including those where it really isn't warranted, is just sad. (No, this isn't a personal attack on you specifically, but a general observation of the comments)
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As usual, the point of my comment is missed. This article is about Keaschall and what he may be able to bring to the table. As seems to be the TD masses singular argument at the moment, there is an immediate attack on Rocco. To your point, if you are going to blame Rocco for the entirety of a players development... well, nothing I say is going to change that tunnel view approach.
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You mean relief pitchers are volatile? Really? I did not know that. The good bullpen numbers are weighted by mop-up guys coming in and pitching well. Take them out of the equation and this group has not been overly effective. Kind of a broken record right now...
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As much complaining as there is about the FO, Baldelli, and perceived lack of effort, there is a heck of a lot more that goes into attendance than just on-field performance. Marketing, ballpark experience, ticket and food costs to name a few. We all know how bad the PR is between fans and ownership. This is not new, it has been an issue for years. As was mentioned earlier, I do not understand how billionaires do not know that hiring a whiz marketing and financial analyst department can reap financial benefits that ripple out. This includes getting more butts in the seats. We saw the St. Paul Saints do it for years and years when they were an independent team.
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Whom Should Brooks Lee Replace on Twins Roster?
Twins GFP replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.... I want to make sure I am understanding you correctly: You are saying that the main, possibly only thing stopping DaShawn Kiersey from being a 5.6+WAR player is Rocco Baldelli and his unwillingness to play him more? I understand the current hate for Rocco, but this? Really?- 91 replies
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Whom Should Brooks Lee Replace on Twins Roster?
Twins GFP replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Someone needs to bring Keirsey into this discussion. 3 PA in 11 games shows how much value he has to this team. Castro would see more OF.- 91 replies
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I am in that group. I generally enjoy watching the Twins whether they win or lose. I do not buy the concept that we as fans should be satisfied with the current payroll situation. This team financially underperforms it's market expectations. There have been articles aplenty about the media situations, the team's general lack of caring for the fans, and the strictly business aspect of running this team. unfortunately, in spite of all that garbage, I will still watch (and listen more when they finally fire Gladden from the radio. So bad.)
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Not sure about "madness". You want your best hitters at/near the top, your lesser hitters lower. Being consistent with the top four (who are the best hitters the Twins have available, current performance aside) is what you want. Jeffers and Castro should be the next two up, after that it really does not matter too much. Riding the hot bat (Bader) to a 5th/6th slot isn't necessarily a bad short-term decision either when 85% of your lineup is scuffling.
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I see what you did there... At least they aren't trading for OF James Outman
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Why is anyone arguing about SP going 5 innings? This has been a MLB-wide issue FOR YEARS. Should we as fans really be surprised the BP is a roller coaster? According to stats, the Twins should DFA Jax, Varland, and Alcala, while giving heavy innings to McCaughan, Coulombe, and Dobnak. Cole Sands should be the new closer with Topa as set-up. EDIT: McCaughan has been DFA'd for Blewitt. So we have that going for us...
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