The Darvish Contingency Plan

I guess time will tell whether we missed out on Darvich or not. Just my opinion but I think we'll be glad we didnt pay him. Yes he would of provided us a true #1 when not on the DL but this also allows us to usher in our young pitchers and get the ball to May when he is ready. Santana will only miss a handful of starts so our rotation of Berrios Gibson Meija Gonsalves? Duffey? Or new signing??? vs. 2017 of Santana Santiago Hughes Meija Gibson (Berrios was called up in May) looks in as good as shape to me to start the year. Keep the faith Twins fans all is not lost! Gonsalves and Romero have a lot of UNPROVEN talent so add them to Berrios and we will see the makings of a young core that we can grow with hopefully sometime in 2018.

The Twins are a big loser in this missed opportunity to sign Darvish. With 3 teams rebuilding next year Darvish would have given the Twins the opportunity to go deep into the playoffs. The Twins could have taken a huge step to control their own destiny, instead they decided to lay up and hope for the best. Lynn, Cobb and especially Arrieta are not going to be worth anywhere near what they will get.

The Twins only chance is to now trade for Archer and the only way to do that will decimate the farm system.

Words can not describe the disappoint that the Twins front office has decided to let this opportunity pass them by.

I said it in another thread and ill say it again now: this is not the fault of the FO. 

YU DARVISH DID NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE.

Im sorry folks, thats the reality. All we can do now is re-group, go get the next in line and then hope come October we are facing Darvish in the WS and he implodes like he did in 2017.

No idea if it is reasonable... But the D-Backs are my first phone call. Greinke for Hughes deal could free up enough money for them to sign JD Martinez. 

 

Unless the D-Backs try to tornado through our farm system in the process. 

I like the idea.  But I think the Twins would have to try and get Greinke's contract re-negotiated.  If I'm reading this correctly, $138.5M over 4 yrs. is still due to Greinke.  $34.5M per year, I guess.  

I think the D-Backs would listen.

I said it in another thread and ill say it again now: this is not the fault of the FO. 

 

YU DARVISH DID NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE.

 

I think this is ultimately what it comes down to. We don't know what the terms of the contract were and probably will never know. At the end of the day, Darvish is a human being and can decide to do what he wants. Maybe Minnesota isn't his cup of tea? Maybe he doesn't actually have a good relationship with Lavine or Falvey? Maybe he thinks he has two or three years of competitive baseball left in his arm and wants what he thinks is the best chance for him to win a title. Lots of factors going on here than simply money. The Cubs have shown the initiative to go out and make deals at the deadline to put their team over the edge; the Twins have not. The Cubs have the history on their side; the Twins do not. The Cubs have Wrigley Field; the Twins do not. I think he simply did not want to come here. Let's at least look at the fact that the Twins actually made an offer to the considered top player on the FA market which is something they have not done in the last 20 years. Let the boys regroup and let's see what happens. I, for one, am glad that Darvish didn't sign. Really have never been impressed with him as a pitcher.

No idea if it is reasonable... But the D-Backs are my first phone call. Greinke for Hughes deal could free up enough money for them to sign JD Martinez. 

 

Unless the D-Backs try to tornado through our farm system in the process. 

Was thinking this as well...might even keep Hughes on board if the prospect ransom wasn't too large

Does anyone actually have any evidence that Darvish didn't want to come here?

Does anyone actually have any evidence that Darvish didn't want to come here?

Turning down the Twins 5 year off er was my first clue.

In other words, "the actual plan."

Honestly, I'm just glad it's over so we can stop hearing about it.

Now we just need them to not settle for someone like Tillman or Garcia on the FA or offer up someone like Kepler for someone like Odorizzi.

Darn. Could we get Arrieta on a 3-year deal or something? We aren't we talking about him? Lynn and Cobb are more likely I reckon. And I'd take them in a heartbeat.

 

I'm more in favor of signing a free agent, rather than trading away the farm for Archer. Don't get me wrong I love Archer as a pitcher but the asking price seems to high.

 

Here's hoping the Twins are ready to open up their wallet. The dominoes are going to fall fast.

no one is talking arrieta because most think he is on the rapid decline. I'd only give him a deal like 1-year prove it or 1-year with a LARGE 2nd year team option. If I'm going to sign one of these big four on a 3+ yuear deal it is Cobb and Cobb alone.

now if we could get Arrieta on 1-year 20 w/team option for 2019 and 4-60 for Cobb  I'd be cool with that but nevertheless dealing for Odorizzi or Archer seem like the smarter option. Or maybe reconsider a deal for Teheran or a cheap deal for Collin McHugh or Brad Peacock from Houston.

now if we could get Arrieta on 1-year 20 w/team option for 2019 and 4-60 for Cobb  I'd be cool with that but nevertheless dealing for Odorizzi or Archer seem like the smarter option. Or maybe reconsider a deal for Teheran or a cheap deal for Collin McHugh or Brad Peacock from Houston.

Dealing for Odorizzi wouldn't be smart.  Unless we gave up Gibson...by himself.

Honestly, I'm just glad it's over so we can stop hearing about it.

 

Now we just need them to not settle for someone like Tillman or Garcia on the FA or offer up someone like Kepler for someone like Odorizzi.

I'll  take Tillman or Garcia for 1-9 / 2-18 prove-it deals to be back of the rotation (roster fill in) types but not as the ace.

Dealing for Odorizzi wouldn't be smart.  Unless we gave up Gibson...by himself.

I don't think Gibby would be dealt - TB wants Kepler (with their large quotient of LHB I don't know why) - for him - Kepler is the key piece.

I don't think Gibby would be dealt - TB wants Kepler (with their large quotient of LHB I don't know why) - for him - Kepler is the key piece.

yeah, you missed my point.  

In any event,  I wouldn't trade Kepler for Odorizzi. 

If they really do want Kepler, I'd trade him + any prospect for Chris Archer.

Anyone but Lewis, yeah.

I saw the Darvish deal was 6 for 126 on the MLB channel. I think the twins missed an opportunity, they should have gone for it. Hey he held out and got what he wanted. Yeah I guess the twins didn't blink, but they are also left empty handed.

I'd prefer not to trade for anyone, I'd like to see the twins hang on to their prospects so they can possibly use them at the trade deadline. Go get Lynn, Cobb, Garcia, someone to stick in the rotation that will make them aveage and hope that these young pitchers develop and can become a factor next year. Until then we need to sit around and hope they can get in to the wild card game that they can lose, but hopefully at that point we are talking about these young guys and how they will be ready for 2019??