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    Should the Twins Have Cashed In on Joe Ryan and Pablo López?

    The Twins wanted to remain competitive while also building for the future. In keeping Joe Ryan and Pablo López, they may have gotten stuck somewhere in between.

    Sam Caulder
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    With the odds of the Twins making the postseason shrinking by the day, we’re left with plenty of opportunities to reflect on the season that was and, more importantly, what could have been.

    Yet another season without playoff baseball makes it easy to look back at all of the things the Twins should’ve done differently. There are plenty of decisions that can be debated, from roster construction to the trade deadline, but in the Twins’ case specifically, I think there’s a pretty compelling argument that Derek Falvey missed an opportunity to reshape the organization.

    And two names immediately come to mind: Joe Ryan and Pablo López.

    Let’s go back to this past offseason. There was plenty of buzz that Falvey and the Twins could be forced into dealing one or both of their veteran starters as the organization looked to reshape the roster and potentially cut payroll. As it turns out, neither one was moved. Hindsight is always 20/20, of course, but I think Falvey missed out by not moving on from at least one of them before the season started.

    And that’s especially easy for me to say because I was of that belief at the time as well. I thought Ryan, in particular, was a pitcher the Twins should seriously consider moving while his value was at its highest. López was a little more complicated, but there was still a window to make something happen. Now, that window looks considerably smaller.

    The Pablo López Problem

    López’s situation is obviously a little different because he suffered a season-ending elbow injury in February, just before the season began. There’s no way the Twins could have known that was coming.

    But they still had November, December, and January to explore a potential trade. López was healthy at the time, and while his contract certainly limited the number of teams that could have been interested, he was still a proven starting pitcher who had been one of the better members of the Twins’ rotation. Instead, Falvey and the Twins held onto him, and now his trade value has taken a massive hit. López is coming off elbow surgery, missed the entire 2026 season and is entering a contract year in 2027. Even if he returns healthy and pitches well next season, there’s no guarantee he gets back to where he was pre-injury. That puts the organization in a somewhat awkward position.

    If the Twins genuinely believe they can make a run at the postseason next year, then you probably want López in your rotation. A healthy version of him could be a major part of a competitive pitching staff. But if the Twins don’t win with him in 2027, that’s going to be a pretty bad look.

    Falvey had an opportunity to move López when his value was much higher, chose not to, and now Jeremy Zoll’s front office could potentially be stuck with the consequences of that decision. There’s still a chance López comes back and proves to be an important piece, but the opportunity to maximize his value has almost certainly passed.

    Ryan Was Different

    I think the same general argument can be made for Joe Ryan, only with even more conviction.

    I was of the belief that the Twins should’ve traded Ryan before the season, and I felt even more strongly about it when the trade deadline rolled around. Unlike López, there would have been a very active market for Ryan. He was healthy, he was pitching at a high level, and, like López, he was under team control for multiple seasons. That combination is incredibly valuable in today’s game. Contenders are constantly searching for starting pitching, but controllable frontline starters are especially difficult to find. A team acquiring Ryan wouldn’t have just been getting a rental for the stretch run. They would have been getting a quality starter who could remain in the rotation for years. That should have put the Twins in an excellent position to demand a significant return. Instead, Falvey kept him.

    And again, hindsight is always 20/20. The Twins probably believed they could still make a postseason push. Maybe they believed Ryan was too important to the future of the organization to move. Maybe the offers simply weren’t good enough. But looking at where things stand now, it’s fair to ask what exactly the Twins gained by keeping him.

    They aren’t a playoff team WITH Ryan. If the goal was to compete this season, that plan clearly didn’t work. And if the goal was to build toward the future, it’s difficult to argue that keeping Ryan was the best way to maximize the organization’s long-term return. That’s ultimately what makes the decision, to me, extra frustrating. Ryan was the most valuable trade chip on the entire roster, and Falvey had multiple opportunities to cash in on him. He chose not to.

    The Pressure Is On

    There’s still a path where all of this works out for the Twins. If they believe they can make a serious run in the American League next season, having both Ryan and López in the rotation would obviously be a good thing. Quality starting pitching is difficult to find, and there’s no reason to pretend otherwise. But that puts an awful lot of pressure on 2027.

    Both pitchers are entering contract years, and both now have less trade value than they did when the Twins had the opportunity to move them. If the Twins make the playoffs next season and Ryan and López help lead the rotation there, nobody will care about the trades that weren’t made. If they fall short again, however, those decisions are going to be scrutinized heavily. And that’s where this ultimately becomes less about Ryan and López and more about Falvey.

    Maybe Ryan and López will ultimately prove that decision was the right one. But if the Twins fall short again in 2027, it’s going to be awfully difficult to look back at these past two seasons and say Falvey maximized the opportunities in front of him. Sometimes building for the future means knowing when to move on from the players who can bring the biggest return. The Twins had that opportunity, and they might not get another one.

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    5 hours ago, bjorks said:

    We have a middle of the pack offense as is, I think there's going to be a minimum in the $150+ million range meaning the Twins will have to spend on someone/body. 

    Nobody would trade Bradley back to the TB for Jax. It's a stupid argument. 

    We have a middle of the pack offense driven by multiple unsustainable aspects.  

    Trading Jax for Bradley is a great example of why we should've dealt Ryan for Tolle and Arias and why Lopez should've been moved as well.  I'd feel a helluva lot better about 2027 and forward if we had.  Now?

    They are going to need a lot to go right to even pretend they are contenders.  Starting with the lottery.

    The problem with these kinds of decisions is if you trade players like Ryan and Pablo, you still need to replace them. You're not going to replace their production for what you're paying them currently. Sure we'll get some prospects back. But with that formula, you just keep pushing the carrot down the road. 

     

    I hope the Twins do NOT try and trade Lopez. Good pitcher, good character, good influence on his teammates, and he will be most eager to come back from his injury and contribute next season. He is a keeper. But yeah, I think it made  sense to try and trade Ryan. He was coming off another excellent first half but showing  signs that he most likely won't sign an extension with the Twins. Trade him while he still has some value. I can't foresee any scenario where he is pitching for the Twins two years from now. 

    Yes im of the group that says they should have traded them both.  For a team on a payroll decline Lopez is way out of their price range.  Ryan  continues history career path of having very good first halfs then poor 2nd halfs.  Thus has been the third straight year hr has had bad second half.  Yes injuries are a part of it.  But ryan injuries and poor play in 2nd half are concerning.  Teams like Tampa and Milwaukee with smaller payrolls are successful in part because they are not afraid to trade star players and continually restock and reinvest.  The Twins need to establish some direction.  Otherwise they will continue on this rudderless boat heading nowhere.

     

    When they decided not to bring back Sonny Gray and not to add anyone better than Trevor Richards to a competitive team, they were admitting that, as structured, they weren't going to be competitive with the best teams. At that point, they should have gone full steam ahead for a different structure and traded Ryan, Lopez, and anyone else who would bring back good future assets (not Outmans or deep minors pitchers with a less than 5% chance to ever have 1.0 WAR), instead of listing at sea the last few years. If they had done that, they could have been very good next year. 

    Starting with the 2025 deadline sell off we have seen the same thing we've seen for years with this organization. The lack of a real plan & following through on that plan. It seems as though this Ownership/FO combination for years can't get on the same page & pick a lane. 

    When you go out & sign Carlos Correa then follow that up & solidify the roster around him to make a real effort at winning. When you trade nearly 1/2 your active roster including the 5 highest leverage relivers then follow that up & build for the future.

    Instead what we get repeatedly from the top of the organization is going right down the middle so they don't have to commit either way. The top decision makers in the organization should be able to develop a plan & commit to it. 

    30 minutes ago, MGX said:

    Starting with the 2025 deadline sell off we have seen the same thing we've seen for years with this organization. The lack of a real plan & following through on that plan. It seems as though this Ownership/FO combination for years can't get on the same page & pick a lane. 

    When you go out & sign Carlos Correa then follow that up & solidify the roster around him to make a real effort at winning. When you trade nearly 1/2 your active roster including the 5 highest leverage relivers then follow that up & build for the future.

    Instead what we get repeatedly from the top of the organization is going right down the middle so they don't have to commit either way. The top decision makers in the organization should be able to develop a plan & commit to it. 

    Great post. 

    13 hours ago, soyouresayingtheresachance said:

    The problem with these kinds of decisions is if you trade players like Ryan and Pablo, you still need to replace them. You're not going to replace their production for what you're paying them currently. Sure we'll get some prospects back. But with that formula, you just keep pushing the carrot down the road. 

     

    They shed $30m in payroll last trade deadline and offseason. They are having their third consecutive 2nd half collapse in a row, they’re having their second losing season.

    this team ranks 25th in runs allowed (not much to replace) 736, the hitters rank 9th in runs scored 681. Hitters and pitchers average age is 28

    While I continue to believe that last year’s deadline trading away 10 major leaguer’s was a mistake, they did it and should have capitalized last offseason on the remaining contracts, OR invested heavily back into the team to make it actually competitive. They did neither and we watched more of the same.

    the same goes for this offseason. Go all-in on the youth, or invest heavily on competing. No half measures.

    I have always believed next year was the year to really contend. Everything from this year should have been to make next year's team a playoff team. To do that you need a blend of experience with the young core. We are far enough in with Lopez and Ryan that you should just keep them and put together the best starting rotation they can. Lopez, Ryan, Bradley, Abel, Preliepp would be pretty good. Pair that with a pen that is much better now and will be competent at the start of the year will be huge. Hopefully with Jenkins and Culpepper in the lineup all year, they will be a good hitting team. Lewis is the guy that is interesting. Will they keep him and hope that a full year at first base will help him or will they move on from him. Clemens, Lee, Keashall, Buck, Culpepper, Jenkins should all be back. Catcher is the question mark. Next year should be interesting. 

    On 9/12/2026 at 10:40 AM, Mike Sixel said:

    They could have them signed two legit players.....

    About two thirdd of the people here would have approved off the trades, at least amount the regulars. 

    there can certainly be plenty of opinions on this. not that one's more right than another. I have my opinion and let's go back to when free agency began and salaries went as high as the Moon is from the earth making everybody have to pay through the nose to go to sporting events. ultimately whatever game it is you're paying big bucks for. it's still just a game. I am a major devoted twins follower since the middle 1960s. The Minnesota twins have hired back then and even now some of the greatest young men on and off the field which is why I follow the twins all the way from the state of Virginia. to my point is there used to be the players generally stayed with the same team and the fans knew who their team was and wanted to support those people. with free agency there is a continuation of players changing the teams they play for because they can with the rules. when there was no free agency, sometimes the players might not want it to stay on that team, but the fans didn't always know that they just rooted for them. to have removed the number one and number two starter both or either one of them I feel would have caused major dissension amongst the fans trying to get them to the ballpark because of the previous several years. hey honey you want to go to the game tonight. oh well sweetheart. who's playing? we'll see when we get there. well that's a slight exaggeration but I feel they should have kept both players and they did. and another reason why is when their time comes where they can be a free agent. the Minnesota twins can't afford to pay most of them, so you better keep the ones you can as long as possible when you live in that situation so the fans can get some kind of familiarity with what in the world is on the ball field.

    10 hours ago, Bangkok Twins Fan said:

    I hope the Twins do NOT try and trade Lopez. Good pitcher, good character, good influence on his teammates, and he will be most eager to come back from his injury and contribute next season. He is a keeper. But yeah, I think it made  sense to try and trade Ryan. He was coming off another excellent first half but showing  signs that he most likely won't sign an extension with the Twins. Trade him while he still has some value. I can't foresee any scenario where he is pitching for the Twins two years from now. 

    You trade Ryan because I don't think he wants to stay here. They already screwed up on getting something for Jeffers.

    On 9/12/2026 at 8:47 AM, PuckettPond said:

    A fire sale is needed. Trade anyone of value bringing back youth, enthusiasm, talent, hope & change. Give the fans something to believe in. This year's trade deadline moves were Awful getting players in trades where we could get in free agency this winter. They helped get us losses not wins.

    One thing to note about this summer's trades is that all three teams who got prospects from the Twins in exchange for their veterans had a better record than the Twins after the trades. They were all too happy to get something of value in exchange for players they were planning to jettison.

    I would say they definitely should have traded Ryan. I’m not sure about Pablo because there wasn’t that much excess value in his contract meaning the return wasn’t going to be a haul. I’m afraid the same situation will exist with Ryan after his arb award. 

    On 9/12/2026 at 12:15 PM, LyleCole said:

    During the Mauer-Mourneau-Santana-Liriano years if they just bring the payroll up, they are real contenders for the World Series and probably recoup all of their incremental investment.  They had good young stars and good supporting players, a high level closer.   They just had to rely too much on guys like Rondell White and Lew Ford and Nick Punto.   

    You mean like in 2010 when the team was 11th in opening day payroll and 2011 when the team was 9th? Or when they played at the Metrodump?

    It seems lost on people the Twins extended Mauer to one of the largest contracts of all time. The Twins extended Morneau, Nathan, and Cuddyer as well. They're not going to out spend the Dodgers.

    22 hours ago, killercarewoliva said:

    there can certainly be plenty of opinions on this. not that one's more right than another. I have my opinion and let's go back to when free agency began and salaries went as high as the Moon is from the earth making everybody have to pay through the nose to go to sporting events. ultimately whatever game it is you're paying big bucks for. it's still just a game. I am a major devoted twins follower since the middle 1960s. The Minnesota twins have hired back then and even now some of the greatest young men on and off the field which is why I follow the twins all the way from the state of Virginia. to my point is there used to be the players generally stayed with the same team and the fans knew who their team was and wanted to support those people. with free agency there is a continuation of players changing the teams they play for because they can with the rules. when there was no free agency, sometimes the players might not want it to stay on that team, but the fans didn't always know that they just rooted for them. to have removed the number one and number two starter both or either one of them I feel would have caused major dissension amongst the fans trying to get them to the ballpark because of the previous several years. hey honey you want to go to the game tonight. oh well sweetheart. who's playing? we'll see when we get there. well that's a slight exaggeration but I feel they should have kept both players and they did. and another reason why is when their time comes where they can be a free agent. the Minnesota twins can't afford to pay most of them, so you better keep the ones you can as long as possible when you live in that situation so the fans can get some kind of familiarity with what in the world is on the ball field.

    in that recent message I'm referring to before we knew Joe Ryan's ability to pitch was going to fall apart. he could have two more starts and not even give up a run and I don't think you could get as much for him as you would before these issues he's currently having.

    2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

    You mean like in 2010 when the team was 11th in opening day payroll and 2011 when the team was 9th? Or when they played at the Metrodump?

    It seems lost on people the Twins extended Mauer to one of the largest contracts of all time. The Twins extended Morneau, Nathan, and Cuddyer as well. They're not going to out spend the Dodgers.

    Exactly.   If they add one higher end hitter to that lineup they are contenders for the World Series rings....   but they didn't so they were just good enough, with limited exceptions, to sneak into the playoffs and get bombed by better overall teams.

    THE WINDOW WAS THERE.  The ownership refused to make the commitment.  




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