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    Buxton Not Alone In Early-Season Struggles


    Seth Stohs

    In case you haven’t been following the Minnesota Twins to this point in the season, Byron Buxton has started the season really slowly. On Monday night in Texas, he went 0-2 with two walks and is now hitting just .105/.177/.140 (.318). There is really no way to sugarcoat those numbers. Nick wrote a bit about his struggles yesterday.

    While few have struggled to the level that Buxton has to start this season, there are a lot of hitters who are just not hitting to this point. Heading into play on Monday, 27 qualifying players (have 3.1 at bats per game their team plays for) had a batting average below .200. The average batting average in MLB was .241.

    Image courtesy of Seth Stohs, Twins Daily (photo of Byron Buxton)

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    There are six players in the big leagues who are 22 to 24 years old and hitting under .220 heading into Monday’s games. I thought it would be interesting to see if their teams have done anything about those players. Have they been demoted? Will they be demoted? Have they been moved in the lineup at all? I think I found some consistencies in the research.

    Dansby Swanson - 23 - SS - Atlanta Braves

    2017 Stats*: .139/.162/.194 (.357) in 74 plate appearances over 18 games.

    Swanson was the first overall draft pick in the 2015 draft out of Vanderbilt. Inexplicably, Dave Stewart decided to trade the Georgia native to Atlanta (with two others) for Shelby Miller. The Braves called him up late last year. He played in 38 big league games, he hit .302/.361/.442 (.803) in 145 plate appearances. He had 34 strikeouts, but he also walked 13 times.

    Part of his struggles this season can be tied to his strikeout-to-walk rate. He has 19 strikeouts to go with just two walks.

    He began the 2017 season as Atlanta’s second-place hitter. He stayed in that spot for the first 14 games. He then got a day off. At that point he was in a 3-33 slump which dropped his average to .131. When he returned to the lineup this past weekend, he had been moved to the eighth spot.

    Swanson seems to be taking the struggles in stride. When he was given his one game off, he told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

    “When you’re going like this each at-bat is kind of a battle,” Swanson said. “I was just talking to some people about how, it’s like, they throw those perfect breaking balls on certain counts and they make certain pitches, and then when you do hit balls hard people seem to be standing right there and stuff. But you’ve got to do your best to not let that affect you — just because you’re not getting the result doesn’t mean you’re not doing the right thing.

    “This game, it’s hard. It’s just a weird concept because you can execute everything perfectly and not be successful, whereas in football if you run a play perfectly you’re going to be successful, or in basketball if you shoot the perfect shot it’s going in. It’s just funny how, in this (sport), you can take the perfect swing and it doesn’t matter. Nothing’s really in your control except your immediate action.”

    Tim Anderson - 24 - SS - Chicago White Sox

    2017 Stats*: .179/.203/.254 (.457) in 69 plate appearances

    Anderson was the White Sox first-round pick in 2013 out of Community College. He was called up in mid-June and played in 99 games. He hit .283/.306/.432 (.738).

    Those that have watched the White Sox since his call up know what his issue can be. Throw him a breaking ball outside of the strike zone, and he’ll probably still swing at it. Last year, he saw just 3.7 pitches per plate appearance. This year, that number is down to just 3.3.

    But the White Sox obviously see him as a future star and leader on the team. . This spring, they locked him up to a six year, $25 million contract. With a couple of option years, the value of the contract could exceed $51 million. So, he’s probably got some leeway. He began the season by batting second the first seven games, and then he moved up to the leadoff spot for three games. After a day off, he has hit second four times and led off twice. Through 16 games, Rich Renteria has chosen to keep Anderson near the top of the order.

    Orlando Arcia - 22 - SS - Milwaukee Brewers

    2017 Stats*: .210/.234/.306 (.541) in 64 plate appearances over the first 18 games

    Arcia was signed out of Venezuela. He is the younger brother of former Twins outfielder Oswaldo Arcia. He is known for his premiere defense at shortstop, which may surprise those of us who watched Oswaldo out in the outfield in Target Field.

    He was called up late last year and played in 55 games for the Brewers last year. He hit .219/.273/.358 (.631). The Brewers have him up primarily for his defense and are letting him grow into the offensive side of the game. That is shown, in part, by the fact that they have had him hitting eighth or even ninth in their lineup in each game he’s played.

    Brewers manager Craig Counsell recently told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

    "Development is not a straight line," Counsell said. "Failure is part of it. You don’t know for who and when, but you know that there’s going to be struggles, and you have to get through those times. That’s when most of the learning happens and the biggest adjustments are going to happen."

    "Look, I don’t want to see guys struggle. It’s hard seeing guys struggle. But I know also a lot of good can come from the struggle, and that’s what I always remain hopeful about."

    Jose Peraza - 22 - 2B/SS - Cincinnati Reds

    2017 Stats*: .216/.256/.257 (.513) in 78 plate appearances over 18 games

    Peraza actually made his MLB debut in 2015 when he played in seven games for the Dodgers before being involved in his second, three-team trade in his young career. It sent him to Cincinnati. In 2016, he hit .324/.352/.411 (.762) in 72 games and 256 plate appearances. He played around the infield, but mostly in the two middle spots.

    This year, he is off to a slow start. However, in all 18 games he has played, he has hit first or second.

    Chad Dotson from Redleg Nation doesn’t think that Peraza is in any danger of a demotion:

    As far as I know, there has been no public discussion about either sending Peraza down or dropping him in the lineup. In my opinion, it is highly unlikely that Peraza will be demoted. He’s still just 22 years old, and current management has reason to be patient with the young guys at the heart of the rebuild.

     

    This is a season for the Reds to see who they have and what they can do. Peraza will get a much longer leash than 3 weeks. (Plus, his defense has been good.)

    Trevor Story - 24 - SS - Colorado Rockies

    2017 Stats*: .169/.270/.415 (.686) in 74 plate appearances over 19 games

    Story was the big story early last season. In his MLB debut last year, he hit two home runs. He had six home runs in his first four games. Unfortunately, his season ended after just 97 games due to injury, but he finished by hitting 21 doubles and 27 home runs. He hit .272/.341/.567 (.909).

    So, it’s clear that he isn’t off to the same kind of start as he was last year. However, he has continued to show the home run power. Rockies fans are surprised when Story hits a single so far this year.

    He started the season hitting fifth, and batted fourth or fifth each of the first seven games. Since then, he has hit primarily sixth, but also has three games where he’s batted seventh as well. So for now, he has been dropped a little in the lineup.

    Carlos Correa - 23 - SS - Houston Astros

    2017 Stats*: .197/.286/.295 (.581) with 70 plate appearances in 16 games.

    Correa was the top pick in the 2012 MLB draft, one pick ahead of Byron Buxton. Correa was called up halfway through the 2015 season and hit 22 homers on his way to the AL Rookie of the Year. In 2016, he hit .274/.361/.451 (.811) with 36 doubles, 20 homers and 96 RBI.

    2017 hasn’t started out real well for Correa. However, he has been the Astros cleanup hitter each game that he’s played this season, and that probably won’t change anytime soon.

    SUMMARY

    So what have we noticed from reviewing the six players above? Maybe you’ll think through some more, but here are a few things I noticed.

    1. If you go on Twitter or read comments sections, there are two distinct groups of fans for each of these players. There are the ones who want a guy demoted (or even just given up on), and there are those that will support said player as long as it takes. Here’s a good example from Twitter regarding Dansby Swanson:

    https://twitter.com/santoniobrown/status/855572705994846208

    2.) Defense - you’ll notice that each of these players plays an up-the-middle position, and plays it well. While Buxton is the only outfielder, most of them are shortstops. Each is known for being a plus defender.

    3.) Byron Buxton was the Twins #3 hitter on Opening Day. Having watched him play this spring, it was an aggressive, but understandable plan. Not because of any numbers he put up in spring training, but because of the quality of the at-bats that he was having. After struggling for five games, Paul Molitor moved him down the lineup and he’s primarily been batting ninth since. He’s been pinch-hit for three times and sat out a couple of games too. Swanson stayed in the second spot for 14 games before being moved down this weekend. Story has dropped from five to seven. But the rest have stayed in their spots.

    4.) Online searching tells me that none of the other players are in any danger of being demoted, at least not in the near future.

    5.) Patience is what is being preached. That’s not new. Player development is not linear. Not everyone develops at the same time. Sometimes being optioned helps. Sometimes a player needs to figure things out in the big leagues.

    6.) Walk and strikeout rates are pretty consistently telling in seeing player struggles. I don’t think that surprises anyone. Players that have a better control of the strike zone have a tendency to avoid longer slumps, and they don’t get themselves out by swinging at pitches outside the strike zone.

    Now, we don’t watch these other teams play as often as we watch the Twins. It’s also pretty certain from the stats and the strikeout rates that Buxton’s struggles have exceeded even those mentioned above. Personally, I would like to see the Twins continue to play Buxton most every day and let him try to work through this.

    Finally, here is a list of the 27 players who entered Monday’s game with a sub-.200 batting average.

    Jose Reyes - .104

    Ryan Schimpf - .109

    Jose Bautista - .132

    Devon Travis - .136

    Dansby Swanson - .139

    Danny Valencia - .145

    Curtis Granderson - .149

    Travis Jankowski - .160

    Mike Napoli - .162

    Erick Aybar - .164

    Trevor Story - .169

    Alex Gordon - .169

    Dexter Fowler - .169

    Maikel Franco - .171

    Scott Schebler - .175

    Austin Hedges - .175

    Tim Anderson - .179

    Brett Gardner - .182

    Jonathan Villar - .185

    Rougned Odor - .187

    Alcides Escobar - .190

    Danny Espinosa - .191

    Domingo Santana - .193

    Adonis Garcia - .194

    Justin Bour - .194

    Carlos Gonzalez - .197

    Carlos Correa - .197

    It’s an interesting mix, isn’t it? There are young players and there are old players. There are some former All-Stars, and there are guys you had to look up to see what team they even play for.

    It’s easy to jump to conclusions early in a season even though we all know it’s a very small sample. But with Buxton, the question that Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have to be asking themselves is: What is best for Byron Buxton’s long-term future? Learn in the big leagues or learn in AAA Rochester. The problem is, there is no way to know which answer is more correct than the other. Share your thoughts.

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    Mauer is a fine defender at first but catching the ball isn't very hard. There's an expected level of competency at the MLB level and first basemen catching the ball isn't really note-worthy. AFAIK, scooping and catching the ball isn't a focus of first base defense in advanced metrics for that reason: everybody does it well enough to not make it worth much in defensive value.

     

    Again, not knocking Joe, he's a good defender at first... but most of that value seems to come from his range and baseball smarts.

     

    Whereas Byron Buxton is doing things at an up-the-middle position that I'm not sure anyone else in baseball can even do physically, excepting possibly Billy Hamilton.

    I get your point but disagree in the application.   Even if they tracked scooped balls it would be difficult to qualify them.   Short hops are easy and big hops are easy and there is probably also an expectation of how many scoops are expected but if they are not tracked at all then I consider it a flaw.    I have only watched Twins games and have seen a couple times the Twins have gotten on because of balls thrown in the dirt that I did not consider all that difficult and I have seen Mauer make several plays that I thought were exceptional and athletic.    Then of course there was the play that Mauer made yesterday just because of his height and reach that are not considered so much when tracking range.    Our big concern was defensive left side and I believe with an average 1st baseman over there it would loom larger than it does now.   I will say again that the difference between average and exceptional at first base exists but is the minimal that you suggest when receiving throws from guys like Hardy and Crede.    It is more significant than is given credit for when it is Sano and Polanco.    Our views of their defense would be quite a bit different if Mauer hadn't handled just a couple of each of their throws the way he has.  Just my opinion.

    I can see your point in the case of Polanco but do we have any concerns about Sano's arm? The guy has a rocket and it's pretty accurate to boot.

     

    Sano has plenty of concerns over at the hot corner but his arm has never been one of them, in my opinion. His lateral movement and range, sure, but not his arm.

     

    I can see your point in the case of Polanco but do we have any concerns about Sano's arm? The guy has a rocket and it's pretty accurate to boot.

     

    Sano has plenty of concerns over at the hot corner but his arm has never been one of them, in my opinion. His lateral movement and range, sure, but not his arm.

     

    didn't he miss a few months with a shoulder injury? Not that I'm worried, but some might be.

     

    didn't he miss a few months with a shoulder injury? Not that I'm worried, but some might be.

    Yeah, maybe there are injury concerns there given the TJ surgery and whatnot but if his arm is healthy, I personally do not have concerns about his arm strength or accuracy.

    If you think people have been unkind to Buxton on this thread (and other threads) due to his slow start...for what it's worth, my nine-year old watched the game recap with me this morning, and when they showed a Buxton single, he said "Whoa, Buxton can hit?!?"

     

    I can see your point in the case of Polanco but do we have any concerns about Sano's arm? The guy has a rocket and it's pretty accurate to boot.

     

    Sano has plenty of concerns over at the hot corner but his arm has never been one of them, in my opinion. His lateral movement and range, sure, but not his arm.

    You are right of course.  I have been very happy with Sano's defense over there.   His arm has been quite accurate on the routine plays.   Its some of his best and most athletic plays where the throws have been a little off but with a lot of heat.    I recall hearing Bremer say a couple times "great play by Sano and even better play by Mauer"   Bremer hyperbole of course since those plays were definitely more credit to Sano but still could have been cancelled perhaps by lesser 1st basemen.      I have been pretty happy with Polanco also in making routine and some tough plays.      Back in the day Gagne made great athletic plays but the throws on a lot of those plays needed Hrbek for completion.    Just like a great defensive outfield can make a pitcher's stats look good a great 1st baseman can be pretty valuable in keeping a shortstop's stats good.  SSS and I have only seen about a third of the games but the infield defense has looked better than anticipated, and the catching and outfield defense has lived up to expectations.

    Interesting article on Thames on FG today (like most days so far this year :) ).

     

    One of the key things in his growth is/was day to day playing time in Korea, instead of inconsistent playing time. That was addressed earlier by FG about Buxton, that the Twins need to just give him time one way or the other (which I think was referenced in the thread). I'm just pointing this out as one more data point of....let him play for 3 months.

     

    Interesting article on Thames on FG today (like most days so far this year :) ).

     

    One of the key things in his growth is/was day to day playing time in Korea, instead of inconsistent playing time. That was addressed earlier by FG about Buxton, that the Twins need to just give him time one way or the other (which I think was referenced in the thread). I'm just pointing this out as one more data point of....let him play for 3 months.

    I don't know if I read it or saw it on TV somewhere but the other thing on Thames was Korean pitchers throws lots of junk and off-speed stuff.  The basis of the story was by seeing a few years of break balls he is now able to easily recognize those types of pitches and can just sit on fastballs now.  So basically his pitch recognition caught up to his physical abilities.  

     

    The story went on to ask the question of should players who struggle for consistency in MLB go to Korea to gain an edge.  - I personally say Thames is a great hitter who needed time to develop and Korea may have helped but I don't think it is going to turn every struggling hitter into good hitters. But I do see the logic behind how it helped Thames.

     

    Over the last five games:

     

    20 PAs

    4 hits

    7 BB

    2 SO

     

    It appears Byron is making adjustments.

     

    since I can't see the games....I'm curious. Is this like when Hicks just refused to swing, and he either walked or hit a single? Or, is he legit just not getting strikes thrown to him? I don't understand not throwing him enough strikes, frankly....

     

    since I can't see the games....I'm curious. Is this like when Hicks just refused to swing, and he either walked or hit a single? Or, is he legit just not getting strikes thrown to him? I don't understand not throwing him enough strikes, frankly....

    He's still swinging and missing a fair amount but he's laying off bad pitches that he was swinging at early in the season.

     

    From what I've seen, he's still struggling with the fastball inside but he's no longer flailing at pitches all over the place (up, down, inside, outside). It's possible the book on Buxton read "don't throw him strikes, he'll swing anyway". That book will need to be revised soon if he keeps it up.

     

    I've always believed this will be a baby step process. Byron needs to make several adjustments and it appears he has begun to make at least one of the necessary changes to his approach.

    Over the last five games:

     

    20 PAs

    4 hits

    7 BB

    2 SO

     

    It appears Byron is making adjustments.

    That's the pattern after you're getting pwned for a while. We saw it with Hicks his rookie year. The pitchers immediately stop throwing strikes, because you're getting yourself out. You correct that part, and you get a boatload of walks for a while. Then they start throwing strikes again, and the interesting part begins...

     

    That's the pattern after you're getting pwned for a while. We saw it with Hicks his rookie year. The pitchers immediately stop throwing strikes, because you're getting yourself out. You correct that part, and you get a boatload of walks for a while. Then they start throwing strikes again, and the interesting part begins...

     

    Right, that was sort of my question up thread....is Buxton just not swinging the bat right now? No one walks this much. 

     

    That's the pattern after you're getting pwned for a while. We saw it with Hicks his rookie year. The pitchers immediately stop throwing strikes, because you're getting yourself out. You correct that part, and you get a boatload of walks for a while. Then they start throwing strikes again, and the interesting part begins...

    Yep.

     

    That's the pattern after you're getting pwned for a while. We saw it with Hicks his rookie year. The pitchers immediately stop throwing strikes, because you're getting yourself out. You correct that part, and you get a boatload of walks for a while. Then they start throwing strikes again, and the interesting part begins...

     

    Exactly. With MLB pitchers, you first need to give them a reason not to simply throw you fastballs. Once you do that, you need to give them a reason to throw you strikes. Buxton hasn't yet done that but he's getting close. Love the recent approach change. It seems like it's starting to click for him.

     

    As Ashbury said, once they see the need to throw you strikes, that's when we can start to see this develop.

     

    Right, that was sort of my question up thread....is Buxton just not swinging the bat right now? No one walks this much. 

    Mike, have you not been watching the games? Serious question, I know you live in the NW but I was just wondering.

     

    They have not been throwing Buck a whole lot of strikes but I will say that he is laying off A LOT more junk than he was the first few weeks. Especially the soft/breaking stuff down and away. 

     

    Mike, have you not been watching the games? Serious question, I know you live in the NW but I was just wondering.

     

    They have not been throwing Buck a whole lot of strikes but I will say that he is laying off A LOT more junk than he was the first few weeks. Especially the soft/breaking stuff down and away. 

     

    No, as I said above, I don't watch the games, hence why I asked the question above. And, yes, you and Brock said the same thing. He's doing a better job of not swinging when he shouldn't. Which, btw, is great!

     

    No, as I said above, I don't watch the games, hence why I asked the question above. And, yes, you and Brock said the same thing. He's doing a better job of not swinging when he shouldn't. Which, btw, is great!

    He is still swinging at some of the good pitches, though.  I've noticed him foul off several pitches straight back.  It's not just standing there with the bat on his shoulder.  Much better judgement, not laying off obvious strikes but not flailing away.  I like what I've been seeing.

     

    He is still swinging at some of the good pitches, though.  I've noticed him foul off several pitches straight back.  It's not just standing there with the bat on his shoulder.  Much better judgement, not laying off obvious strikes but not flailing away.  I like what I've been seeing.

    Yeah, he's not going completely passive, a la Hicks. He's letting a few good pitches go by and making contact with more pitches in the zone.

     

    But it's still concerning that he's fouling off a lot of good pitches instead of putting them into play and he's still flat-out missing many pitches in the zone, particularly inside.

     

    But, adjustments.

     

    Yeah, he's not going completely passive, a la Hicks. He's letting a few good pitches go by and making contact with more pitches in the zone.

     

    But it's still concerning that he's fouling off a lot of good pitches instead of putting them into play and he's still flat-out missing many pitches in the zone, particularly inside.

     

    But, adjustments.

    I was going to say his swing looks pretty long in the zone, so those inside pitches are still giving him trouble and probably always will

     

    I was going to say his swing looks pretty long in the zone, so those inside pitches are still giving him trouble and probably always will

    I think it's too early to say they'll always give him trouble. The guy is only 23 years old and pretty thin. It's hard to say what he'll look like in two years, much less four or five.

     

    That's the pattern after you're getting pwned for a while. We saw it with Hicks his rookie year. The pitchers immediately stop throwing strikes, because you're getting yourself out. You correct that part, and you get a boatload of walks for a while. Then they start throwing strikes again, and the interesting part begins...

    Interesting comparison between Buxton and Hicks.

     

    Like Buxton's last 20 Plate Appearances, Hicks did have a roughly 20 PA stretch with 7-8 BB, depending on how you count the partial games. 

     

    However it was very early in Hicksies rookie season, 2013. Hicks had 2100 professional PA to that point while Buxton had 1900 professional PA to that point, though 500 of those were in MLB (these are estimates).

     

    Hicks was also hitting much worse at the time his "walk streak" started, hard as it is to believe. 

     

    So then the next 20 PA for Hicks following that streak, and a similar day off:  4-16, 0 BB, 4 K.

     

    Sometime after, Hicks went on a little strikeout binge, though he gets a break since he was just a rookie.  However reports were that Hicks was somewhat aloof and not engaged, unlike Buxton.

    On Aprll 20th, Buxton stumbled back down to a .257 OPS.

     

    A dozen days and eight games later, he's sitting at a .478 OPS.

     

    HIs K percentage, once sitting near 50%, is down to 36.6%, just one percentage point above last season. Over that eight game stretch, his K rate is at a high but acceptable 26%.

     

    I'm starting to get a little bit excited about the guy.

     

    On Aprll 20th, Buxton stumbled back down to a .257 OPS.

     

    A dozen days and eight games later, he's sitting at a .478 OPS.

     

    HIs K percentage, once sitting near 50%, is down to 36.6%, just one percentage point above last season. Over that eight game stretch, his K rate is at a high but acceptable 26%.

     

    I'm starting to get a little bit excited about the guy.

     

    It is early, but it does seem a little sustainable if he can keep that k rate manageable.

     

    Seems like he'll start hitting with a little bit more pop and his babip has to climb with his speed.




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