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Posted
1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

 Buxton should be treated like Kreidler, particularly if evidence suggests Buxton is not capable right now of better performance than Kreidler.-- THATS THE Problem  - its a Team game 

It is hard to believe that his speed will not be impacted.

Posted
5 minutes ago, MeleMouth said:

Buxton should get to make his own decisions about whether to have surgery. Frankly, all athletes should.

Whether he plays, however, should remain up to the manager, who has to decide who he thinks will give the team the best chance of winning right now. Whatever great things someone did in the past should not matter if he is not capable of them now. In that sense, Buxton should be treated like Kreidler, particularly if evidence suggests Buxton is not capable right now of better performance than Kreidler.

As my original post said, this is the way it is done on every team and every sport.  There is a pecking order and some players get more input than others based on their status with the team.

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2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

As my original post said, this is the way it is done on every team and every sport.  There is a pecking order and some players get more input than others based on their status with the team.

some players get more input--  some call it Spoiled  and causes dissent ?

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Posted
Just now, Danchat said:

Not a good start from Zebby today, but this offense can't continue to fold against every lefty they face. Why isn't Gabby Gonzalez playing?

I guess if Bell gets on he may PH

Posted
Just now, Danchat said:

Not a good start from Zebby today, but this offense can't continue to fold against every lefty they face. Why isn't Gabby Gonzalez playing?

probably bat for Larnach

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Posted
1 minute ago, Danchat said:

Not a good start from Zebby today, but this offense can't continue to fold against every lefty they face. Why isn't Gabby Gonzalez playing?

That's always been the bigger issue this year. 

Posted
Just now, HarmonK03 said:

As my original post said, this is the way it is done on every team and every sport.  There is a pecking order and some players get more input than others based on their status with the team.

well...his face is the Twins on most of the promo material....my biggest objection was him not going to AAA after his injury and making sure that his first game back was the HIGH profile Field of Dreams game when he obviously was not ready...IT WAS his decision and damaging to the team. I then see him in San Diego in person limping... I am starting getting a second opinion of him...

Posted
1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

some players get more input--  some call it Spoiled  and causes dissent ?

Or the players understand the real world, where we are not all equal in ability.  And they do recognize the contributions he makes and understand that if he says he can play, he will probably be in the lineup.

Everyone is forgetting the game he had the night before he hurt himself again.  The problem is he can't do that consistently.  I am for him shutting it down, but I understand he is a competitor and he thinks this is the way to help the team.  At this point, we don't even know if it will reach a point that he will try and play.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Not a good start from Zebby today, but this offense can't continue to fold against every lefty they face. Why isn't Gabby Gonzalez playing?

Because they just refuse to move on from the players that have been bad for years....

Posted
1 minute ago, S Bart said:

well...his face is the Twins on most of the promo material....my biggest objection was him not going to AAA after his injury and making sure that his first game back was the HIGH profile Field of Dreams game when he obviously was not ready...IT WAS his decision and damaging to the team. I then see him in San Diego in person limping... I am starting getting a second opinion of him...

Then there is the other side that we have seen in sports, where a player who maybe could play thru something and shuts it down rather than try and help his team.  There are two ways to look at this.

Posted
7 minutes ago, mrmpls said:

His Career is probably over ,  not a popular thing to say but ??

Don't agree...but they need to not count on him so heavily in the future...32...injuries...hip surgery...CF should be out...of the question...

Posted
2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

Then there is the other side that we have seen in sports, where a player who maybe could play thru something and shuts it down rather than try and help his team.  There are two ways to look at this.

well.....$$$ talks also...leaving 2 years of money on the table may be questionable

Posted
5 minutes ago, S Bart said:

well...his face is the Twins on most of the promo material....my biggest objection was him not going to AAA after his injury and making sure that his first game back was the HIGH profile Field of Dreams game when he obviously was not ready...IT WAS his decision and damaging to the team. I then see him in San Diego in person limping... I am starting getting a second opinion of him...

well said and True !!

Posted
2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

As my original post said, this is the way it is done on every team and every sport.  There is a pecking order and some players get more input than others based on their status with the team.

If you think something is "the way it is done on every team and every sport," you're definitionally wrong. It is doubtful that anyone on team fan sites has full knowledge about what one team does, much less every team. What is much more likely is that each team lies on a continuum within its sport, regarding whether they shut down an injured player or give star players more leeway to decide if he should have surgery or is ready to play.

Posted
14 minutes ago, S Bart said:

It is hard to believe that his speed will not be impacted.

This prediction is probably an overstatement. Many players have hip surgery and return to top performance. 

Posted
Just now, MeleMouth said:

If you think something is "the way it is done on every team and every sport," you're definitionally wrong. It is doubtful that anyone on team fan sites has full knowledge about what one team does, much less every team. What is much more likely is that each team lies on a continuum within its sport, regarding whether they shut down an injured player or give star players more leeway to decide if he should have surgery or is ready to play.

agree...the Dodgers would face it differently than the Twins...

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Because they just refuse to move on from the players that have been bad for years....

I don't know who has been bad for years, but they needed to get more flexible with LH/RH OFs after they inexplicably horded more of them at the deadline. And then didn't move any in the following year.

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